Evidence Surfaces That Chris Kyle’s Killer Was Not Suffering From PTSD But May Have Been A Terrorist Sympathizer


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Eddie Ray Routh 2/3/13 – Left and 1/25/15 – Right

 

Eddie Ray Routh murdered Chris Kyle of American Sniper fame and Chad Littlefield. The original story that is being reported by the Mainstream Media (MSM) is that Routh had a PTSD break and shot them to death.

 

With this original understanding, on a personal level I was willing to give Routh a pass with some serious time under psychiatric care in a place designed to help PTSD victims who have made others victims via crimes.

 

However there has been some suspicion of late that Routh’s murder crimes could be more related to Islamic conversion than Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

 

That which brought the suspicions to the surface was the lack of actual combat duty by then Marine Eddie Ray Routh while stationed in Iraq during 2007. Apparently Routh had a non-combat role in the Marines. The closest he came to potential threatening situations was in guard duty of captured Islamic terrorists in Iraq during that same year.

 

Leftists are mocking the Muslim terrorist theory for Routh’s murders. Beyond the lack of a stressful situation to cause PTSD, Counterjihad experts like Walid Shoebat look to Routh’s beard style that has evolved just prior to the murders through his incarceration awaiting trial. This is the point that Leftist rags and blogs begin their mocking of Counterjihad suspicions. But since most Leftists are in denial that Islam is a violent ideological-religion, Leftists can’t wrap their brains around a beard observation.

 

Further Reading:

 

Chris Kyle’s Alleged Killer Set to Go on Trial (Special-Ops.org)

 

BREAKING: Shocking Discovery About Chris Kyle’s Murderer Revealed (Conservative Tribune – 2/3/15)

 

Was Chris Kyle’s killer a converted Muslim? (AllenBWest.com – 2/2/15)

 

Expert: Chris Kyle’s Killer is Likely Muslim Jihadist (BuzzPo – 2/4/15)

 

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Evidence Surfaces That Chris Kyle’s Killer Was Not Suffering From PTSD But May Have Been A Terrorist Sympathizer

 

By Yehuda Remer 

February 4, 2015

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No combat experience. Let me say that again, he NEVER SAW COMBAT or any aspect of traumatic events associated with a combat deployment.”

 

 With his trial to start very soon, new facts have surfaced surrounding the man who shot and killed Chris Kyle.

 

The narrative until now has stated that Eddie Ray Routh was suffering from PTSD when Kyle took him under his wing, attempting to help a fellow veteran in need.  The new facts coming to light could show that Routh was not suffering from PTSD but a converted Muslim who sought out Kyle as retribution for the sniper’s success in Iraq. 

 

Through the Freedom of Information Act, The Warfighter Foundation received Routh’s wartime record and made a startling discovery – Routh was never in combat or in any sort of traumatic experience. 

 

Posted to their Facebook page, they write:

 

Eddie Routh served one tour in Iraq in 2007, at Balad Air Base (the 2nd largest U.S. installation in Iraq), with no significant events. No combat experience. Let me say that again, he NEVER SAW COMBAT or any aspect of traumatic events associated with a combat deployment (i.e. incoming mortar or rocket fire). He never left the base, EVER.

 

He held a non-combat arms occupation of 2111 (Small Arms Repairer/ Technician or more commonly referred to as an Armorer). Balad Air Base had a Pizza Hut, 24 hour Buger (sic) King, Subway, Popeye’s, Baskin Robbins, movie theater, and even a miniature golf course. It even had a strictly enforced 10-mile per hour speed limit! What a dangerous place…

 

His tour was comparable to being on a base in southern California, only with MANY more luxuries that were catered to the morale and welfare of the troops who occupied it. He was known to be a drug user and a below average performer while in the Marine Corps.

 

This has NOTHING to do with PTSD. He was an individual with psychological problems that were not associated with his service. So don’t give me that bleeding heart bullshit that he was a veteran suffering from PTSD.

 

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Okay, time to put an end to this whole discussion that Eddie Routh suffered from PTSD. For those of you who do not know, Eddie Routh is the murderer of US Navy SEAL Chris Kyle.

 

Eddie Routh served one tour in Iraq in 2007, at Balad Air Base (the 2nd largest U.S. installation in Iraq), with no significant events. No combat experience. Let me say that again, he NEVER SAW COMBAT or any aspect of traumatic events associated with a combat deployment (i.e. incoming mortar or rocket …

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What is known, however, is that Routh, while never serving in combat, did work at the Bilad Airbase prison, guarding Muslim terrorists. 

 

Walid Shoebat, a former radicalized Muslim terrorist and member of the PLO who has since converted to Christianity, believes that because of his past and credentials, he is confident in his deduction that Eddie Routh was in fact becoming a radical Muslim, although there is no proof yet of the conversion.

 

Shoebat brings as one proof a phone call Routh had with his father where he expressed sympathy for the detainees he was guarding.

 

“During a phone call with his father, Routh expressed sympathy for the detainees and discontent over how the US was conducting the war as well as his reluctance to engage in combat” and “While working as a guard at Balad Air Base, Routh laments his [Muslim] prisoners’ poor living conditions.”

 

He continues, “It is a known fact that Routh’s family contacted Kyle about their son’s diminishing mental health. Routh was admitted to inpatient psychiatric treatment prior to the events at Rough Creek Ranch, according to a report from the Daily Mail.  Routh had been taken to a mental hospital twice in the past five months and told authorities that he was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, police records show.”

 

The second proof Shoebat brings is Routh’s beard with a trimmed mustache.  Shoebat profiles Routh and writes, In the story on Eddie Routh, who murdered Chris Kyle, there are signs of concern, especially the facial hair, it does match the profile of a convert.”

 

Notice the trimmed mustache in one picture but not the other.

 E. R. Routh-trimmed mustache in one picture but not the other

 

“One main key in profiling a Muslim fundamentalist is that they usually trim the mustache,” Shoebat writes.  Always remember, a Muslim fundamentalist is mandated by Islam to trim the mustache, he adds.

 

Is it a stretch?  Was Eddie Routh sent on a covert mission for extremist Muslims hell-bent on killing The Devil of Ramadi?  It will be interesting to watch as the trial unfolds and more information comes out if Kyle’s killer was suffering from PTSD or if he had ties to Muslim extremists. 

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Muslim ALLAH Worshipped And Praised…


Hamad Ahmad Chebli & Boehner in back 11-14-14

Chebli at Praising Allah at House of Representatives 11/14/14
 
 
A WordPress reader (futuret) of my blog NCCR read Shamim Masih’s updated info on the burning to death of the Christian Pakistani husband-wife Sijjad Masih and Saima Bibi and added a comment by simply posting a Shoebat.com link. The exposé by Walid Shoebat and Ben Barrack is awesome and worth a cross post; however it is quite lengthy loaded with photos and videos besides the informative text. So below is a tasted of the Shoebat.com post with me encouraging YOU to READ THE REST.
 
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Muslim ALLAH Worshipped And Praised SUPREME On U.S. House Floor (Shocking Video Must Watch)
 
By Walid Shoebat and Ben Barrack
**SHOEBAT EXCLUSIVE**
November 14, 2014
 
 
To all who get excited at the Republican victory, watch your idol-kings and your high-priests in their cathedrals, all burn incense to Ba’al, they all bow at the sound of the name of Allah, they all sleep with Islam, the harlot of Arabia. All your choicest American fatlings bow in lust like prostitutes:
“She lusted after her paramours, whose genitals are like those of donkeys, and whose emissions are like those of horses.” (Ezekiel 23:20)
With newly re-elected Speaker of the House John Boehner presiding AND BOWING HIS HEAD, the Imam for the Islamic Center of Central Jersey praised Islam’s Allah from the House floor as the God who reigns supreme. Here is the shocking video of Imam Hamad Chebli delivering the Islamic prayer; Boehner can be seen behind him:
 

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Allah Praised on House Floor

The house of representatives allowed an IMAM to praise Allah on the Floor of the house and give the opening prayer today, November 13th, 2014.

C SPAN Transcript 00:00:05 – Unidentified Speaker

SPEAKER: THE HOUSE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED TODAY BY OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN, AMAN, ISLAMIC SOCIETY OF CENTRAL NEW JERSEY, MADAM OUT JUNCTION, NEW JERSEY. THE CHAPLAIN: PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ALLAH BE UPON YOU. IN THE NAME

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OF ALLAH, THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE MOST MERCIFUL. PRAISE BE TO ALLAH, THE CHERISHER, THE SUSTAINER OF THE WORLD. THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE MOST MERCIFUL MASTER OF THE DAY OF JUDGMENT. THEE DO WE WORSHIP AND THINE DO WE SEEK. GUIDE US TO THE SAFE PATH. THE GOD OF ALL THE PROPHETS AND THE MESSENGER SAYS IN THE KORAN, HE DOES NOT PLACE A RESPONSIBILITY ON YOU GREATER THAN YOU CAN BEAR. EVERYONE WILL RECEIVE THE GOOD THEY HAVE EARNED AND VICE VERSA. LET US PRAY. O GOD, BLESS US AS WE BEGIN A NEW DAY. BLESS THIS ASSEMBLY. BLESS THE PEOPLE AND NATION IT REPRESENTS. O GOD, AS THIS TIME IN OUR HISTORY, THE CHALLENGES FOR OUR NATION AND THE WORLD ARE MANY. O GOD, GRANT THESE MEN AND WOMEN THE WISDOM, THE GUIDANCE AND THE STRENGTH TO PURSUE COMPASSION, JUSTICE AND SOUND JUDGMENT. O GOD, IN YOUR WISDOM, YOU HAVE PLACED UPON THEM GREAT RESPONSIBILITY AND HONOR. O GOD, PLEASE HELP THEM WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR LIGHT. O GOD, — O, GOD, IMPROVE THE WELL BEING OF ALL INHABITANTS OF THIS GREAT NATION AND BEYOND. AMEN. .http://www.c-span.org/video/?322728-2…

Chebli didn’t just appear at the House floor; he also delivered Islamic prayers at the National Cathedral which was prepared for Muslim prayers with rugs.
 National Cathedral which was prepared for Muslim prayers with rugs 11-2014
Numerous speakers, including Cathedral officials and local Muslim leaders, echoed Rasool’s message [Muhammad’s Message] about the urgent need for religious understanding and collaboration. Most made pointed references to the symbolism of the majestic Christian building, where they had gathered to pray and commune.
 
Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the Cathedral, spoke of St. Benedict, whom he said believed equally in the importance of prayer and hospitality. Marvelling (sic) at the sounds of Arabic prayers, which he called “a beautiful sacred language in a beautiful sacred space,” Hall said he hopes the service would serve as a beginning for future efforts to work together for good.
 
Rashid Makhdoom, a retired engineer from Potomac, said he believes the message and symbolism of the event would “reverberate throughout the world. It should be a lesson for Muslims everywhere that we and Christians are all one,” he said.
 
But that wasn’t all true, fortunately, there appeared a “Deborah”, “Jael” and a “Judith” in that one Christian woman made a scene when it became obvious that an act of conquest and harlotry was taking place, she screamed out:
 

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We’re not talking about a harmless, moderate Imam here. Instead, we’re talking about a major devil. According to Chebli’s bio:
 
“Early in his studies, a teacher named Hassan Khaled chose Chebli to serve at a neighboring mosque. Nearly four decades later, Chebli laughs as he recalls the puzzled expression of the mosques members when a lanky boy in glasses came to lead their prayers …[Hassan] Khaled, his mentor, was chosen Grand Mufti of Lebanon, the nations foremost Islamic legal scholar in the Sunni Muslim sect.”
 
Chebli’s mentor, Khaled, who was the Mufti of Lebanon was “martyred” after a bomb was set up which killed him and others. His father went the same way “martyred” by a bombing. Have a look at Khaled, the fiery revolutionist exhorting a crowd to chant, ‘Allahu Akbar’:
 
VIDEO: (Arabic title translated to English): Shahid Mufti Sheikh Hassan Khaled defends Beirut
 
The speech tone in Arabic is always different than what you find on the House Floor in English, of course, but we cannot attribute the man to be like his mentor, this would be ‘guilt by association’.
Khaled, the man’s mentor is even featured prominently on the official Muslim Brotherhood website.
 
And in the same footsteps as Khaled, Chebli also traveled to Egypt to study at Al-Azhar University, the world’s oldest university and center for Brotherhood jurisprudence. It was during this time that Chebli’s mentor Khaled was chosen as the nation’s foremost Islamic legal scholar in the Sunni Muslim sect.
 
[Blog Editor: At Shoebat.com clicking the photo of Chebli takes you to the Islamic Society of Central Jersey Imam’s Corner page]
Imam Hamad Ahmad Chebli
 
Prior to Khaled’s fallout with the PLO’s Yasser Arafat, he was a champion and supporter of Palestinian terrorism against Israel to sending terrorist recruits from Lebanon.
 
The selection of Chebli also appears to have significance relative to the U.S. policy in Syria. Both his mentor Khaled – and Khaled’s father – were killed by the Syrian regime. As such, Chebli has an axe to grind when it comes to Bashar al-Assad. With news that the Obama administration is actually considering a policy based on an absurd premise that the best way to defeat ISIS is to remove Assad from power, Chelbi’s appearance at locations of national significance seem to coincide with this potential shift in U.S. policy.
 
Despite western portrayals of Chebli as a moderate, he absolutely is not.
 
When it comes to Muslim prayers being delivered on the House floor or at the National Cathedral, unfortunately, this is not new. The precedent was set by Boehner’s predecessor – Speaker Dennis Hastert – less than one year prior to 9/11. As for the National Cathedral, none other than President George W. Bush shared a podium with Muzammil Siddiqi, then president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).
 
First up, on February 7, 2001, Chairman of the Dar al-Hijrah mosque Bassam Estwani delivered a prayer on the floor of the House as well. As the chairman of Dar al-Hijrah, Estwani represented perhaps the most notorious mosque on American soil. It was visited by three of the 9/11 hijackers and was home to Anwar al-Awlaki, the inspiration for READ THE REST at Shoebat.com
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White House aide linked to al-Qaida Funder


Mehdi K. Alhassani - Radical Muslim BHO WH

It is surprising that a Tea Party organization has posted a Counterjihad expose. What is not surprising, is that this Tea Party organization has exposed a Radical Muslim in President Barack Hussein Obama’s White House that has links not only to Radical Islam but the Radical Islamic organizations he is linked to are supportive of Islamic terrorists such as the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda.

 

TeaParty.org utilized WND and Walid Shoebat as sources linking special assistant to the Office of the Chief of Staff of the National Security Council Mehdi K. Alhassani directly to the Muslim World League (MWL). The MWL is also linked to Hillary Clinton’s Deputy of Staff Huma Abedin.

 

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Recipient of Benghazi bombshell email blaming attack on Internet video

 

(Tea Party) – A troubling thread links Hillary Clinton’s former chief of staff to the current special assistant to the National Security Council chief of staff of the military’s Islamic chaplain program—the Muslim World League—reported WND. The Muslim World League is a group that has been accused of financing al-Qaida and is even more radical than the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

Offshoots of the organization have been declared official terrorist organizations by both the US State Department and the United Nations. Despite all of that, Muslim World League-linked individuals have been placed in key national security positions. Furthermore, those individuals with radical ties are helping to run the military’s chaplain program.

 

Last week, the case of Mehdi K. Alhassani, special assistant to the Office of the Chief of Staff of the National Security Council, drew attention in the blogosphere world after former a PLO operative named Walid Shoebat reported on Alhassani’s ties to Muslim Brotherhood-linked groups.

 

It was in an administration email made public last week that was part of the Judicial Watch lawsuit where Alhassani’s name emerged. The email in question was sent to Alhassani and other officials from Ben Rhodes just days after the attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012. Rhodes is Obama’s deputy national security adviser for strategic communication

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In the email, Rhodes clearly spells out need to “underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy.”

 

It has since emerged that Alhassani was president of the Muslim Student Association at George Washington University from 2005 to 2006—a group that was openly founded by Muslim Brotherhood activists.

 

Although founded by Brotherhood activists, MSA’s roots are far more dangerous and tie into both Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and adviser, Huma Abedin, and Alhassani as well as the military’s chaplain program.

 

MSA received its start-up funding from the Muslim World League, or MWL.

 

Jihad is their way

 

Shoebat reported that Huma Abedin served on the board of the MSA at George Washington University in 1997. It so happens that the MSA’s official anthem is a restatement of the Muslim Brotherhood credo. This is what it states:

 

Allah is our objective

 

The Prophet is our leader

 

The Quran is our law

 

Jihad is our way

 

Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope

 

News media WND previously attended an MSA event and at that event speakers urged violence against the U.S.:

 

“We are not Americans,” speaker Muhammad Faheed shouted at Queensborough Community College in 2003. He continued: “We are Muslims. [The U.S.] is going to deport and attack us! It is us versus them! Truth against falsehood! The colonizers and masters against the oppressed, and we will burn down the master’s house!”

 

It was also WND that reported Abedin worked on the editorial board of her father’s Saudi-financed Islamic think tank alongside Abdullah Omar Naseef, secretary-general of the Muslim World League. Naseef’s connections to the Abedin family run deep.

 

Huma’s father, Professor Syed Abedin, founded the Institute for Minority Affairs. The Institute for Minority Affairs is a Saudi group that reportedly had the active support of Naseef. Her mother, Saleha, is the editor of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs. The Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs is the publication of Syed’s institute.

 

The Institute for Minority Affairs touts itself as being “the only scholarly institution dedicated to the systematic study of Muslim communities in non-Muslim societies around the world.”

 

Huma Abedin served on the editorial board of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs for six years, from 2002 to 2008. Shoebat previously obtained documents revealing that Naseef served on the board with Huma for at least one year—December 2002 to December 2003.

 

In an interesting turn, the sudden departure of Naseef from the board in December 2003 happens to coincide with a time that various charities that happen to be led by Naseef’s Muslim World League were declared illegal terrorism fronts worldwide. The U.S. and U.N were among those who made these declarations.

 

Huma’s mother, Saleha Abedin, has been quoted as representing both the MWL and serving as a delegate for the charity in numerous press accounts.

 

Founded in Mecca in 1962, the MWL proclaims to be one of the largest Islamic non-governmental organizations. However, U.S. government documents and testimony from officials at t the charity show that the Saudi government heavily finances it.

 

The MWL and several of its offshoots, including the International Islamic Relief Organization, or IIRO, and Al Haramain, have been accused of having terrorist ties. Al Haramain was declared by the U.S. and U.N. to be a terror-financing front.

 

In a press release dated September 2004, the Treasury Department alleged direct links between Al Haramain and Osama bin Laden. The group has been banned worldwide by United Nations Security Council Committee 1267.

 

Long-held accusations have also stated that the IIRO and MWL repeatedly funded al-Qaida.

 

In fact, bin Laden reportedly told an associate that the MWL was one of his three most important charity fronts.

 

In a profile of the MWL, the Anti-Defamation League accuses the group of promulgating a “fundamentalist interpretation of Islam around the world through a large network of charities and affiliated organizations.”

 

“Its ideological backbone is based on an extremist interpretation of Islam,” the profile states, “and several of its affiliated groups and individuals have been linked to terror-related activity.”

 

U.S. News and World Report documented back in 2003, that with MWL’s donations, invariably come “a blizzard of Wahhabist literature.”

 

“Critics argue that Wahhabism’s more extreme preachings – mistrust of infidels, branding of rival sects as apostates and emphasis on violent jihad –laid the groundwork for terrorist groups around the world,” said the report.

 

In 1990 in Florida, an Egyptian-American cab driver, Ihab Mohamed Ali Nawawi, was arrested on accusations he was an al-Qaida sleeper agent and a former personal pilot to bin Laden. At the time of the accusation, he also reportedly worked at MWL in its Pakistani branch.

 

In 1988, the MWL founded the Al Haramain Islamic Foundation. The group was responsible for developing chapters in approximately 50 countries. Until it was designated as a terrorist organization they had a chapter in Oregon.

 

Evidence began to grow in the early 1990s that showed the foundation was funding Islamic militants in Somalia and Bosnia. In 1996 a CIA report detailed their Bosnian militant ties.

 

Al Haramain’s offices in Kenya and Tanzania were designated by the U.S. Treasury as sponsors of terrorism. This designation came about as a result of the group’s role in planning and funding the bombings of two American embassies in East Africa in 1998. The Comoros Islands office was also designated because it “was used as a staging area and exfiltration route for the perpetrators of the 1998 bombings.”

 

In 2003, The New York Times reported that Al Haramain had provided funds to another terrorist group—the Indonesian group Jemaah Islamiyah. Jemaah Islamiyah was responsible for the bombings in Bali in 2002 that killed 202 people. Later, the Treasury designated the Indonesia office a terrorist entity.

 

Then the following year in February 2004, the U.S. Treasury Department froze all of Al Haramain’s financial assets pending an investigation. That led the Saudi government to disband the charity, making it part of the Saudi National Commission for Relief and Charity Work Abroad.

 

Al-Haramain was designated a terrorist organization in September 2004 by the U.S.

Four years later, in June 2008, the Treasury Department applied the terrorist designation to the entire Al-Haramain organization all over the world.

 

Bin Laden’s brother-in-law linked to terrorist plots

 

The Philippine and Indonesian branch offices of the MWL-founded IIRO were also designated as terrorist entities in August 2006. According to the Treasury Department they were designated as terrorist organizations “for facilitating fundraising for al-Qaida and affiliated terrorist groups.”

 

The Treasury Department continued: “Abd Al Hamid Sulaiman Al-Mujil, a high-ranking IIRO official [executive director of its Eastern Province Branch] in Saudi Arabia, has used his position to bankroll the al-Qaida network in Southeast Asia. Al-Mujil has a long record of supporting Islamic militant groups, and he has maintained a cell of regular financial donors in the Middle East who support extremist causes.”

 

In the 1980s, Osama bin Laden’s brother-in-law Mohammed Jamal Khalifa ran the Philippines offices of the IIRO. Khalifa has been linked to plots targeting the pope and U.S. airlines.

 

In addition, the IIRO has been pointedly accused of funding Hamas, Algerian radicals, Afghanistan militant bases and the Egyptian terror group Al-Gamaa al-Islamiyya.

 

The families of the 9/11 victims filed a lawsuit against IIRO among other Muslim organizations for having “played key roles in laundering of funds to the terrorists in the 1998 African embassy bombings” as well as for having been involved in the “financing and ‘aiding and abetting’ of terrorists in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,” reported the New York Post.

 

It’s a Saudi government front

 

In one Canadian court case, the Canadian director of both the IIRO and the MWL, Arafat El-Asahi, admitted the charities are near entities of the Saudi government.

El-Asahi said: “The Muslim World League, which is the mother of IIRO, is a fully government-funded organization. In other words, I work for the government of Saudi Arabia. I am an employee of that government.

 

“Second, the IIRO is the relief branch of that organization, which means that we are controlled in all our activities and plans by the government of Saudi Arabia. Keep that in mind, please,” said El-Asahi.

 

Even though its offshoots were implicated in terror financing, the U.S. government never designated the MWL itself as a terror-financing charity. It has been widely speculated that this is because the U.S. does not want to not embarrass the Saudi government.

 

Muslim chaplain program

 

Last week in a blog posting Shoebat stated that Alhassani attended the Islamic Center of Boston in Wayland, Massachusetts—that is the sister mosque to the Islamic Society of Boston. The Islamic Society of Boston was founded by Abdurahman Alamoudi—a convicted terrorist.

 

WND first reported on Alamoudi’s role in founding the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council. The Council was created in 1991 and operates under the umbrella of the American Muslim Foundation.

 

The American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council was the official endorsing agency of the military’s Muslim chaplain program along with the Muslim Brotherhood-tied Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA.

 

ISNA, an unindicted co-conspirator in a scheme to raise money for Hamas, still happens to be the official endorsing agency for all Muslim chaplains in the U.S. military.

 

An Islamic cleric, Alamoudi served as an Islamic adviser to President Bill Clinton and it was Alamoudi who guided the establishment of the military’s Muslim chaplain program.

 

Alamoudi has been said to have handpicked the army’s first Islamic chaplain, Imam Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad. Muhammad is still serving in that Islamic chaplain position. It also happens to be Muhammad who endorsed the most recent Islamic chaplains who just joined the military. He was also a key figure in the selection of several of the military’s other Islamic chaplains.

 

Where is Alamoudi now? He is serving a 23-year sentence for terrorism-related financial transactions with the Libyan government and for his purported role in the conspiracy to assassinate then-Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah.

 

In one report, Newsweek journalists Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff described Alamoudi as an “expert in the art of deception.” The article in Newsweek noted that Alamoudi espoused moderate, pro-American views while lobbying for Muslim causes in the U.S. But at a rally he expressed support for Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

The American Muslim Council was founded by Alamoudi in 1990. The American Muslim Council is a lobbying group advocating on behalf of Muslims in the United States.

 

The first Islamic military chaplain, Muhammad, is also tied to the al-Qaida-front Muslim World League.

 

Alamoudi’s American Islamic Council recommended Muhammad for appointment.

 

Alamoudi was present at Muhammad’s swearing-in ceremony. He was also at the 1996 swearing-in of the military’s second Muslim chaplain, Lt. (junior grade) Monje Malak Abd al-Muta Ali Noel Jr.

 

A convert to Islam, Muhammad joined the Lost-Found Nation of Islam, a black Muslim group that espoused racial separatism and black nationalism in 1974. Later he claimed that he did not fully subscribe to the radical group’s philosophy but was attracted by the organization’s emphasis on personal responsibility and self-help.

 

Muhammad stated, “In the projects where I grew up, the women were exploited. In the Nation of Islam the men were always polite. They were always clean cut. I felt the Nation of Islam had more to offer than the church.”

 

Muhammad detailed his association with the Muslim World League during a 1993 interview with Muslehuddin Ahmed of Islam4all.com.

 

According to the website, Muhammad was in discussion with the charity to help establish the army’s Muslim chaplain program.

 

During the time that Muhammad was associated with the MWL, the group spawned Muslim charities—those charities as it turns out, were alleged fronts for al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.

 

As Muhammad stated to Islam4all, he was an “honored guest” of the MWL for his pilgrimage to Mecca.

 

“He was also full of praise for the Muslim World League for its excellent arrangements, which it had made for its guests, and was highly impressed by its dedicated Secretary General Dr. Ahmad Muhammad Ali, who symbolized for him a model Muslim leader,” Islam4all reported.

 

Furthermore the Islamic website reported that Muhammad said he would work closely with the MWL and he began an “ongoing interaction with the MWL in shaping and developing a vital Islamic presence within the U.S. Armed Forces.”

 

Muhammad “evinced keen interest in the magazines and other publications of the Muslim World League and other similar organizations for support in his Dawah (outreach) work.” reported the website.

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Prophecy: What Lies Ahead


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Here is an alternative Bible Prophecy thought for you. The USA will remain the most powerful military on Earth and will enhance its military position by embracing nationalism to a greater degree. Turkey will supersede Iran as the Islamic regional power. Hamas will look to Turkey as an arbiter of destiny. Israel and Hamas will reconcile with Hamas becoming the dominant organization over Arabs that call themselves Palestinians. Turkey’s Islamic domination will lead Muslims away from Arab nationalism to a kind of Islamic Universalism leading to the reestablishment of the Caliphate under Turkish auspices.

 

These are just some of the predictions from Walid Shoebat that seems to be the prophetic theme of a new book “The Case for Islamophobia: America’s Final Warning.”

 

I am guessing the prophetic essay “Prophecy: What Lies Ahead” is a preview of what is in Walid’s book. The essay goes against the grain of recent Biblical prophecy pundits and theologians with an emphasis that the book series “Left Behind” has it wrong.

 

I am certain Walid’s predictions will be criticized by both geopolitists and Biblical oriented prophetic writers. Nevertheless, the case is well presented and the only real critic will be the progression of time.

 

JRH 2/25/13 (Hat Tip: Diana Fatouros – Closed Facebook Group 1683 AD)

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Christ in Dreams and Visions to Muslims


Vision Crucifixion, Christ, HS and Father

John R. Houk

© February10, 2013

 

Here is a politically incorrect statement: Islam is a twisted evil ideology disguised as a religion with the agenda to manage humanity intolerantly and to especially manage violently to all who refuse to practice Islam.

 

If any Muslims read this statement they would undoubtedly go apoplectic which is actually a demonstration of the twisted religion that commands violence in response to perceived insults.

 

I found this article at WND that is about an underground mass conversion of Muslims from Islam to Christianity. Are the conversions the result of an anointed evangelist or preacher?

 

No!

 

Rather Muslims are abandoning Islam for Christianity because of a spiritual experience they are having in dreams. The dreams are visions of Jesus Christ the Son of God to follow the correct path. This is important because the ‘Jesus’ Muslims are taught about did not die on the Cross after which His Resurrection occurred three days later. Rather Muslims are taught that Jesus was a prophet and a mere man and a good Muslim that pointed the way to Mohammed Islam’s idea of the last prophet.

 

The ‘Jesus’ of Christianity is blasphemy in Islam. The ‘Jesus’ of Islam is an antichrist spirit in Islam.

 

The WND article begins with a CBN video about this phenomenon of Christ converting Muslims to Christianity in dreams and visions and then follows up with an analysis which includes thoughts from former PLO Islamic terrorist Walid Shoebat. Enjoy the read and pray that the harvest of Muslims to Christ is plenteous.

 

JRH 2/10/13

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Visions of Jesus appearing to Muslims?

 

By Michael Carl

February 9, 2013

WND

 

VIDEO: Dreams-Visions

[Above link is a bit expanded from content in WND article]

 

“Your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions,” asserts the promise of God from the book of Joel.

 

Yet some of those men reportedly seeing visions and dreams are neither Jews nor Christians … but Muslims.

 

What’s more, Middle East evangelists report the dreamers are coming to Christianity because of their visions of Jesus.

 

According to a CBN report, Christian Middle East evangelist Hazem Farraj’s television program “Reflections” is reaching a large Muslim audience. Farraj told CBN that he hears from Muslims who report having dreams or visions of Jesus.

 

Tom Doyle, an evangelist, pastor and the E3 Partners Ministry director for the Middle East and Central Asia says it’s true: Muslims are coming to Christianity through dreams and visions.

 

“Great things are happening in the Muslim world,” Doyle said in an email to WND. “It’s all very unexpected.”

 

Doyle told WND that he is familiar with Farraj’s program and that Jesus is breaking through where missionaries have not succeeded.

 

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“We’ve been seeing this for 15 years now, where Muslims are no longer Muslims but are Jesus followers,” Doyle said. “It’s someone who is a Christian, someone who is willing to die for Jesus.

 

“It all started with them with a dream,” Doyle said. “They had a Jesus dream, and some of them had many Jesus dreams. They would seek out Christians after a while because the dreams would get so intense that they wanted an answer.”

 

Doyle explains there is still a difficult process involved for a Muslim to convert to Christianity, even for those who have the dreams.

 

“Nobody goes to bed a Muslim and wakes up a Christian,” Doyle said. “They have a couple of barriers between them and Jesus. They’ve been told that Christians worship three gods. They’re told that the Bible is corrupted. It’s just what they’ve been told, kind of a party line rhetoric.”

 

Yet dreams, Doyle says, become a starting point.

 

“They’re motivated to find a Bible, find a Christian and ask what this means. Ninety-five percent of the Muslims who are now Jesus followers say that they were led to Christ by someone explaining the dream to them,” Doyle said.

 

Doyle says he wrote a book called “Dreams and Visions,” in which he recorded a series of real stories from Muslims who follow Christ and who did so because they had a dream about Jesus. He adds that the phenomenon is taking place in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Syria and on the West Bank.

 

Doyle says he knows of one Muslim who was on a hajj, a pilgrimage to Mecca, and he had a daytime vision of Jesus.

 

“I met a man yesterday who said he saw a Jesus dream and he didn’t know what to do with it, so he got deeper into his Muslim faith,” Doyle said. “Then he went to Mecca on the hajj, and on the first time around the Kabah, he saw a vision of Jesus standing in front of him.”

 

Doyle said the man told him Jesus had a message: “You’re on the wrong path; you’re on the wrong road. Leave this place and come follow me.”

 

“This man is getting baptized in the next few weeks,” Doyle said.

 

Doyle believes that the phenomenon will continue and that the stories are taking place in countries that the West believes are bad and dangerous places.

 

Former PLO operative turned Christian and peace activist Walid Shoebat says he believes Jesus is compensating for the weaknesses of the Western Church.

 

“I had first doubted the countless stories of Muslims becoming Christian as a result of dreams until I met some of them and heard their testimonies,” Shoebat said. “My conclusion to this phenomenon is that Christ succeeds where the church fails.”

 

Doyle agrees. He says Jesus should get the credit.

 

“It is a real Divine intervention. That is for sure,” Doyle said.

 

Shoebat, a former radicalized Muslim, says he didn’t come to Christ through such a dramatic event, but through a personal journey.

 

“I must say that Jesus did not appear to me in a dream, but He did take me on my challenge as I prayed to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to show me the problems in the Bible,” Shoebat explained. “Was the Bible corrupt? That was my question to God.”

 

Curiosity caused Shoebat to turn to the Scriptures.

 

“I finally read the Bible for myself in order to poke holes in Christian theology, but God’s Word did not return void,” Shoebat said. “It was as a hammer slamming into an anvil, and I finally broke under a power that cannot be explained by human hands.

 

“By the time I read through the countless predictions in the Bible in which God had laid out the future of Israel from Jeremiah to Joel and how intricate and accurate this manuscript was, I had to come to terms with reality,” Shoebat said.

 

Shoebat adds that he discovered it wasn’t the Bible that was corrupt.

“Indeed, the Bible was corrupted by man, for the Quran was that corruption. ‘The corruptors,’ I concluded, were the ones who always accused the Bible of corruption,” Shoebat said.

 

Shoebat is clear that he believes the Western Church is missing a great opportunity to win Muslims to Christianity.

 

“The 10/40 window is not on the radar of the Western church. Tourists and Christian pilgrims rarely would witness to us when they visited the Holy Land out of fear and respect to Islam,” Shoebat said. “Even in the West, I had had many occasions where I probed Christians to express their views about Islam, and they mostly where reluctant to say anything. They were easily repelled by our sarcastic comments about the Trinity and how the Bible was supposedly corrupt.”

 

Shoebat adds that God’s promises to Israel are also evidence of the truth of Christianity.

 

“I had found out from the Bible that God loves agreements. I had made a deal with Him to show me the truth and that I would do whatever He commands me to do. The volume of evidence from so many verses cannot be expressed here, but [there is] one word I concluded from the Bible that proves its caliber,” Shoebat said. “That word is Israel. He had promised to bring them back in unbelief and then to take away the heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. Today many hate Israel, exactly as the Bible predicted, yet we must await God’s plans to be carried out by Him, and in due time, Israel, God’s glory and His testimony to the Gentiles, will shine and come to pass.

 

“God’s timetable is not man’s timetable, and His ways are not our ways. I learned from the Bible to see things in God’s perspective and not ours,” Shoebat continued. “The bottom line for me was what the Lord Jesus Christ said ‘you shall know them by their fruits.’ Islam brought bloodshed, and Christianity brought light.”

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Christ in Dreams and Visions to Muslims

John R. Houk

© February10, 2013

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Mohammed Film Maker and Islamist Conspiracy


John R. Houk

© October 10, 2012

 

Here is some interesting information about Innocence of Muslims – The anti-Mohammed movie made in the USA and originally credited as the reason for the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods and Sean Smith.

 

Walid Shoebat has developed a Conspiracy Theory That has the number one person behind Innocence of Muslims (whatever his real name is) was set up by Muslim Brotherhood people to instigate Muslim-hate riots. Talk about incitement, right?

 

My thoughts on the movie: This is a dopey production that looks created in a garage and a back yard. I know this will upset the politically correct Left, Muslim Apologists and Muslims brainwashed about the perfection of Mohammed; nonetheless the dialogue can’t be taken seriously hence I see a parody of the darker information about Mohammed that can actually be found in the Quran, Hadith and Sira of Islam.

 

I am going to start out with a local California PBS news report on the mock Mohammed movie producer and then follow that with Walid Shoebat’s thoughts.

 

JRH 10/10/12

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LA County man behind anti-Islam film “Innocence of Muslims” due in court today

 

By KPCC/AP

10/10/2012

89.3 KPCC – Southern California Public Radio

 

A Los Angeles County man behind the anti-Muslim film that sparked violence in the Middle East is expected to appear in federal court today. A Los Angeles judge is expected to ask Mark Basseley Youssef whether he violated his probation for a 2010 bank fraud conviction.

 

Federal prosecutors argue that the 55-year-old had eight probation violations, including lying to his probation officer and using aliases. If Youssef denies those allegations, the judge is expected to schedule an evidentiary hearing to determine if he violated the terms of his release from prison.

 

Federal authorities say Youssef – a Coptic Christian who also went by the name Nakoula Basseley Nakoula – was behind the film “Innocence of Muslims.” The movie, which mocked Muslims and the prophet Muhammad, led to violence in the Middle East, killing dozens.

Read court documents explaining why prosecutors requested Youssef’s detention and the judge’s reasons for holding him:

 

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OCTOBER 5, 2012

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The Innocence of Muslims and the spark of an Islamic revolution can be linked to a handful of culprits. The mystery is unlocked when we review the original YouTube page of one named Sam Bacile (the same name attributed to the filmmaker at one time). Bacile forgot to cover his tracks, leaving two links to three very crucial videos. On the “Feed” tab are two of those videos.

 

One features a Muslim named Wisam Abdul Waris, uploaded to YouTube on September 9th (linked from the Bacile page no later than September 10th). Wisam’s video was uploaded to Bacile’s page because Bacile commented on the video. Yet, when one attempts to view the comments, all have been scrubbed and the comment feature disabled, though the comment allegedly made by Sam Bacile appears on the “Feed” tab, just above the video.

 

Here is a screen shot of the Sam Bacile YouTube page:

Bacile_YouTube Screen Shot 

 

 

The second video on the Sam Bacile “Feed” tab is none other Nader Bakkar, from as far back as May of 2012. This video was added to Bacile’s YouTube page as a “Favorite” about one week prior to the embassy attack in Cairo on 9/11.

 

The third video is on the “Likes” tab of the Sam Bacile YouTube page. It consists of an interview with an English speaking western woman who converted to Islam.

 

Why would a supposed Christian filmmaker “like” this video?

 

Who are these two named Wisam Abdul Waris and Nader Bakkar?

 

Waris and Bakkar, the two main interests on Sam Bacile’s YouTube channel, were the two men we identified back on September 13th as being the two primary culprits behind the Cairo riots on 9/11.

 

These two have been conspicuously absent, all along, from all western media narratives. For example, days after the attacks in Egypt and Libya, Reuters reported an incomplete narrative that the “flashpoint” of the violence was when Sheikh Khalid Abdallah on Al-Nas TV in Egypt aired portions of the film Innocence of Muslims.

 

The clip Reuters is referring to (uploaded September 9th) was a TV interview on al-Nas, where Sheikh Khalid Abdallah interviewed an activist named Mohammad Hamdy, who was engaged in a blatant form of guilt by association, creating a link between the Copts in Egypt and the Copts in the Diaspora. He blamed all Copts worldwide, not just the ones involved in the film.

 

Then came these two on September 9th, Wisam Abdul Waris, a Salafist who announced the formation of a new organization, the Coalition of Dar al-Hekma, an activist group wanting to enforce blasphemy laws worldwide and especially in the West. Nader Bakkar was the head of the Nour Salafist party, who gladly announced his new membership in the coalition on the day these two condemned the film.

 

Contrary to what Reuters reported, what caused the riots was when Waris called in to Khalid to promote them. Khalid simply asked for the date and accepted the invitation. The details and evidence of how the riots erupted by these two was explained here. The rest is history.

 

The conclusion is that all evidence reveals a small circle of predators—the filmmaker and two individuals prominently displayed on the Sam Bacile YouTube channel.

 

Wisam and Bakkar planned and executed the riots.

 

But this is not the rest of the story.

 

SCAPEGOATS

These predators wanted scapegoats. Arab media continues to look for someone to blame for Innocence of Muslims. Al-Ahram, the most prominent newspaper out of Egypt—and a litany of other Arab media, ignores these predators and insists that three Copts are to blame:

 

Fingers still point to the three names who make up the sides of the dark triangle behind the film…

 

…says al-Ahram newspaper, adding that…

 

One of the most important sides of this triangle is Father Zakaria Boutros.

 

Boutros’s crime was that he was involved in al-Hayat, a ministry in which he openly debates Islamic doctrine. His critique of Islam earned him the title as the most hated man in Egypt.

 

The other most wanted, according to Al-Ahram, was “Joseph Nasrallah”, whom it identifies as the…

 

…owner of a TV program called The Way and runs a media organization and Christian charity in Los Angeles, called Media for Christ.

 

When it came to Nasrallah, Al-Ahram reported…

 

200 people besieged his family’s home in Giza to kill his mother and his two brothers.

 

While thugs can pinpoint Nasrallah’s family in Egypt, it remains a mystery that no one was able to pinpoint the relatives of scapegoat number three – the filmmaker himself – despite his statements that the funding for the film came from his wife’s family in Egypt.

 

Several predatory Islamic websites have a history of posting details that included photos of homes, documents, mapping and even home loan documents while asking other Muslims to help hunt down activist Copts living in the Diaspora.

 

The Copts are the best scapegoats to set up for serious trouble.

 

While the filmmaker is put on trial in the United States, the system gives free reign to terrorists and predators who are not simply crying ‘fire’ in a theatre; they are calling first to burn it.

 

There is apparently no illegality in disseminating information that solicits the murder of Copts who are blamed, regardless of facts. Flimsy evidence is used to make any case that these critiques of Islam deserve execution via mob rule.

 

Al-Ahram even recognizes that a man by the name of “Ahmed Hamdy” was behind Innocence of Muslims, but suddenly this Ahmed Hamdy must be a Copt disguised as Muslim. Why? Al-Ahram explains:

 

During this period, Zakaria Boutros created a Paltalk chat room on the Internet in 2002 to raise suspicions against Islam and the Koran, which sparked outrage in Egypt and the Muslim world. This prompted Pope Shenouda to issue a decision to excommunicate him from the church. A revelation from a human rights activist [Khalid al-Masri] stated: ‘One day a person claiming to be a Muslim named Ahmed Hamdy entered Zakaria Boutros’ Paltalk room and requested a debate with Zakaria in front of all visitors… Zakaria Boutros agreed and this person, who claims to be Ahmed Hamdy declared his conversion publicly to Christianity before all visitors in the room.

 

According to al-Masri, this Ahmed Hamdy is the filmmaker:

 

After the uproar caused by Nakoula’s film, he [Nakoula] contacted the American Radio Sawa and what we found as researchers at the National Center was that the voice in the interview with Radio Sawa was the same voice of Ahmed Hamdy who debated Zakaria Boutros in his Paltalk room. This is the same person who claimed during his contact with the American Associated Press that he was an Israeli Jew named Sam Basile and what followed was that the Agency [Associated Press] tracked his phone to discover his name was Nakoula Basile Nakoula, revealed his criminal record, and found the case of bank fraud in which he was sentenced, fined $750,000 dollars, and not permitted to use the Internet for five years.

 

Al-Masri stated that the voice compared from that dialogue with Boutros in 2002 was matched to the same voice of the man who claims to be Nakoula during his interview with Sawa in September of 2012.

 

Al-Masri concludes:

 

Ahmed Hamdy was just a pseudonym and was not a Muslim; he was a Copt from the Diaspora named Elijah Basile, also known as Nakoula Bacile Nakoula, director and writer of the screenplay [Innocence of Muslims].

 

Though no one was able to confirm which of the names the filmmaker used is his real name or even what his real name is, this revelation of a switch from Ahmed Hamdy to Nakoula only came after the film became known. Court documents do reveal that the filmmaker used the name Ahmed Hamdy extensively while he was embezzling money with my first cousin, Eiad Salameh and was captured during Operation Mountain Express, which would become a huge investigation into pseudoephedrine-dealing that was linked to money going to Hezbollah, a terrorist organization.

 

While no evidence has yet surfaced that pinpoints the true name or origin of the man behind Innocence of Muslims, the media continues the narrative that a religious Copt is solely responsible for the whole mess and oh, by the way, that Copt is now in jail.

 

The BBC reported that the filmmaker’s supposed church membership in the U.S. isn’t as it has been portrayed, quoting the Bishop of the Coptic Diocese of Los Angeles as saying the filmmaker “disappears for many months” and “…is not a regular member.”

 

Why he sporadically visited a Coptic church remains unknown. Sawa (Arab radio) aired an interview in which the alleged filmmaker stated that he is not even interested in Christianity, adding that some day he would treat Christianity and Judaism the same way he did in the Innocence of Muslims. He made clear that he is a critic of all religions and that his favorite critic was Salman Rushdi. “What happened to the Iranian Salman Rushdi is what inspired me,” stated the filmmaker to the Arabic radio Sawa.

 

Why then would the anti-religion filmmaker work in Zakaria Boutros’ ministry? We were even able to obtain an old photo never published in any western media. The man on the far left is identified as the filmmaker; Boutros is seen standing in the center (click on image to enlarge).

 

Mohammed Movie Maker Left – Zakaria Boutros Center

Sam Bacile-Ahmed Hamdy-Nakoula Basile Nakoula-Elijah Basile-Mark Basseley Youssef or whoever is Left and Zakaria Boutros is center

 

 

We reached out to Boutros in order to help determine if this person is Ahmed Hamdy, whom Boutros supposedly interviewed at his Paltalk in 2002. Is this the man who claimed to have converted from Islam to Christianity and if so, was Boutros simply set up?

 

Unfortunately, Zakaria has not responded to our requests.

 

It’s worth noting that several pseudonyms the filmmaker was using belong to real people who do exist. I was able to find one named Sobhy Bushra, a former associate of Boutros who runs a ministry and travels to the Holy Land. Bushra stated that he knew everyone, including my cousin Eiad Salameh. He stated that he was simply ministering to the filmmaker in the Los Angeles area and had attempted to help him mend his ways. He stated that the filmmaker said he was Copt who used the name Nakoula Bacile Yousef Nakoula from Bahira in Egypt. I had asked him about Eiad Salameh and he stated that Eiad traveled from Bethlehem to meet with Bushra in Jerusalem recently. Eiad has been connecting to the Copts for years of scheming in California.

 

Whether the filmmaker was Copt or Muslim in origin makes little difference. It is not uncommon for Islamists to find, use and recruit bad apples. It is easy to find so-called secular Christians who could care less about the Christian faith, or who disagree with Christian support for Israel and even use their hatred to advance terrorist causes. Many Copts are no lovers of Israel. Al-Hayat, where Boutros served, has a disdain for Israel.

 

Hilarion Capucci, a Catholic archbishop is a case-in-point. While Capucci hated Israel, he was a friend of Eiad Salameh. Capucci was found guilty of terrorism against the State of Israel for smuggling explosives in 1974. George Habash, a secular Christian, started the Popular Front to Liberate Palestine (PFLP), which recruits both secular Christian and Muslim terrorists. Remember, the filmmaker was apprehended during Operation Mountain Express, which was linked to drug dealings involving Hezbollah.

 

While terror supporters were behind the unrest, the Arab world hones in on religious Copts whether they are critics of Islam or not, or even perhaps duped by someone who had intentions to do them harm. The sad part is that many in the West agree with them. Copts, like Jews, make excellent scapegoats.

 

The rest of the story might be told if some Copts came forward to tell it.

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Mohammed Film Maker and Islamist Conspiracy

John R. Houk

© October 10, 2012

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Nakoula made a notorious anti-Islam film —


Nakoula Basseley Nakoula

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula aka Sam Bacile

Now that I have defended Walid Shoebat’s integrity I am going to cross some information on the cryptic producers of the Mohammed Movie which is probably more up to date than the one I posted on my blog.

 

JRH 9/21/12 (Hat Tip: Ali Sina Goldenberg)

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Nakoula made a notorious anti-Islam film — yet he had worked for an Islamic terrorist

 

By Joseph Cannon

September 15, 2012 5:34 AM

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Added note: I ask readers to pay special attention to the Eiad Salameh connection, which nails the theory that Nakoula worked for spooks…

Additional added note: Or does it? I’ve recently received information that places the Nakoula/Salameh linkage in a new light. The claim that Eiad Salameh is a PLO terrorist comes from his cousin Walid — whom some people (including Chris Hedges) have labeled a serial hoaxer. Walid, like so many of the players in this drama, hails from what we may call the “Pam Geller ring.” His accusations against Hilarion Cappucci — an aged Greek Orthodox cleric — appear to be spurious.

Still, I have received convincing evidence that Eiad is indeed a crook.

If you’re confused — well, read what follows, and the context should become clear.

Nakoula Nakoula, producer of the film “Innocence of Muslims,” has been called in for questioning by the Los Angeles Police Department. This makes sense: The terms of his parole specified that he was not to use the internet without supervision, and he seems to have hopped on the net quite often while posing as “Sam Bacile.”

If Nakoula walks, you’ll know that the fix is in. On the other hand, keeping him behind bars will keep him away from interviewers.

The really stunning news is that he seems to have been a snitch for the government

 

Though many key documents from the U.S. District Court case remain sealed, a June 2010 sentencing transcript provides an account of Nakoula’s cooperation with federal investigators in Los Angeles (and how his prison sentence was reduced as a result).

Nakoula, 55, was arrested in June 2009 for his role in a check-kiting ring that stole nearly $800,000 from six financial institutions by using stolen Social Security numbers and identities. Nakoula was named in a six-count felony indictment accusing him and unnamed “co-schemers” of perpetrating the bank fraud.

Denied bail, Nakoula, a married father of three, was locked up at the Metropolitan Detention Center in L.A. when he began cooperating with Justice Department lawyers and federal agents. During a series of debriefing sessions, Nakoula provided investigators with a detailed account of the fraud operation and fingered the man who allegedly headed the operation, according to comments made by his lawyer at sentencing.

Nakoula identified the ring’s leader as Eiad Salameh, a notorious fraudster who has been tracked for more than a decade by state and federal investigators. In his debriefings, Nakoula said he was recruited as a “runner” by Salameh, who pocketed the majority of money generated by the bank swindles, according to James Henderson, Nakoula’s attorney.

 

I hate to sound like one of those guys who interprets all new information as confirmation of a preconceived narrative, but this material really does buttress my theory that Nakoula made a deal with either Mossad, an American intelligence service, or both. The government knew about this guy. They knew he was ready to cut deals. He’s not bright enough to run his own show. He works for others.

This is not someone who is going to create a bloody international incident of his own accord.

Eiad Salameh — Nakoula’s former boss — is probably the same fellow called “Eiad Salameh Shu’aybat” here and here. This Eiad Salameh is accused of the same type of fraud that landed Nakoula in jail. Moreover, the author of the afore-linked piece mentions that Eiad is wanted by the LAPD. That detail is congruent with the “Smoking Gun” story excerpted above.

Although much remains hazy, it seems that Salameh is a Muslim accused of funding terrorism.

Eiad was well connected with Hilarion Cappucci, a Christian Syrian born terrorist, and a major explosives smuggler…

 

Eiad had disclosed to my brother Farid years ago of his intention to work with Cappucci to smuggle explosives via buses with welded covered compartments. Eiad continually received mal from Tunisia while he was linked with the P.L.O.

 

I don’t know what “mal” is, but the rest seems clear enough. Nakoula’s relationship with this guy surely would have put him on the radar of both Mossad and the American intelligence establishment.

The obvious question: If Nakoula really hates Muslims so much, then why was he so tight with a guy like Salameh? Hell, with anyone named Salameh?

Another obvious question: If Nakoula is willing to work with an anti-Israel terrorist, then why does his movie go out of its way to proclaim Judaism superior to Islam?

Wired reports that the 2009 bust was Nakoula’s third. In 1997, he was nabbed for selling watered-down gasoline; in 1997, he was making PCP and meth. Y’know what’s odd about this? California has a “three strikes and you’re out” law

It’s one of the harshest sentencing schemes in the country and a law that can send people convicted of even nonviolent offenses to prison for life.

Just ask Leandro Andrade. The father of three languishes in California state prison with two consecutive life sentences for shoplifting nine children’s videos on two occasions in November 1995…

 

Nakoula should be in jail for the rest of his life. Yet he was sentenced to 21 months for ripping off $800,000 — and he served only a year.

Yeah. Just try to convince me that that isn’t suspicious.

Then this same crook immediately went into the movie-making business (about which he knew nothing). His partners were quite a bizarre crew: Jimmy Israel (a shady real estate operator), Steve Klein (a “patriot” fanatic with spooky connections), Morris Sadek (part of the Pam Geller crowd and a likely Mossad asset) and Joseph Nasrallah Abdelmasih (ditto). Oh — and somehow, Nakoula managed to secure the services of a well-connected lawyer named James Henderson, who was accused of having organized crime connections by the same informant who accurately told the FBI in February, 2001 that Osama Bin Laden was going to crash jets into the World Trade Center.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Klein used the film’s one midnight screening as “bait” in a bizarre anti-terrorist sting. Klein showed up to that party in disguise.

On top of all of that is the discomforting fact that when the spotlight first hit him, Nakoula nervously blurted out that his film was funded by Israeli money.

If none of this seems spooky to you, your spookmeter is broken.

Incidentally: There’s an interview with Jimmy Israel here. Israel minimizes his participation in the film — unconvincingly, in my opinion. One slip seems telling:

Israel, who identifies as a “pacifist” liberal with no affiliation to organized religions, and who claims to have no strong opinions about Islam, despite having heard some “alarming” things about the Quran at “seminars,” says he supports freedom of religion and expression.

 

“Seminars”? What kind of irreligious pacifist liberal goes to “seminars” (plural) which discuss the origins of the Quran in negative terms?

Jimmy, who admits that his film had no commercial prospects, also let something else slip out…

Likewise, I can’t be sure that this isn’t part of some larger deception — anything from a prank to some kind of bizarre intelligence operation. It’s phenomenally strange.

 

“Some kind of bizarre intelligence operation.” If Jimmy Israel, who worked on the damned movie, is thinking along those lines, then so may we.

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John R. Houk

© September 21, 2012

 

I just read a comment on my post “Kamal Saleem is all about Christianity even it Insults Islam”. I have two primary blogs that I post at: SlantRight 2.0 and NCCR. The comment was posted at the NCCR blog. The commenter identifies himself as Ali Sina Goldenberg. I am fairly certain the name is a pseudonym. The name is a combination of a famous (or infamous depending on if you are a Muslim or not) ex-Muslim from Faith Freedom International which is an expose Islam website. “Goldenberg” suggests a Jewish familial background. So the irony is the mixture of an ex-Muslim atheist and a Jewish familial name.

 

The commenter wanted to correct my thoughts on those involved on producing the Mohammed Movie that the Obama Administration blames for all the attacks on U.S. Embassies across the Muslim dominated world. I think the Commenter could have better used a different post in which I address the Mohammed Movie more directly.  Here is the NCCR post in which in part I talk about the Mohammed Movie producers: Islam Insults Christianity. (SlantRight 2.0 version)

 

 

The post the Commenter decided to correct me with focuses on ex-terrorist turned Christian Kamal Saleem. Perhaps the Commenter chose the Saleem post because of his assertion that he is an ex-terrorist. Evidently the Commenter associates Kamal Saleem with Walid Shoebat. Shoebat also claims to be an ex-Muslim terrorist with a Palestinian pedigree. There are many pundits out there that accuse Shoebat of being a hoaxster making a living on a false pedigree of terrorist converted to Christianity and dedicated to exposing the darker side of Islam. I am not one of those that accuse Shoebat of being a fake AND I have listened to Kamal Saleem and he is definitely a man anointed to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

The most famous pundit that I am aware of that is also a slanted right writer is Debbie Schlussel:

 

[TO MY READERS: I originally wrote the column below in February. But I sat on it and didn’t publish it because I feel bad about exposing even this fraud and creep, Walid Shoebat, despite the fact that he’s plagiarized from me and harassed me under a fake name using his own e-mail address, and despite the fact that his equally shady manager, Keith Davies, fits a similar bill and has–along with Shoebat–taken to trashing me.


But now that The Jerusalem Post has also exposed the fraudulence and fakery of Mr. Shoebat, I’ve decided I cannot remain silent on who he really is and his behavior, any longer. After harassing me, he tried to appear with me at a 9/11 event in Dearborn, and I realized I can no longer hold back. I’ve thought long and hard about it, but it must be done. The record must be set straight
.]

Years ago, when I first heard of Walid Shoebat–the man who claims to have been a Palestinian Islamic terrorist–I liked his story. Since then, I praised him in more than one entry on this site. That was a mistake.

 

In the back of my mind, I always doubted his story. It’s not that I don’t believe Muslim terrorists can convert to Christianity and see the error of their ways. I personally know of a scant few who have, indeed, done that. And there are several former Muslims–Ayan Hirsi Ali (never a terrorist) comes to mind–and enlightened Arabs who are great orators with an important message so many more need to hear.

It’s that I simply didn’t find Shoebat credible. And his behavior toward me is that of an unstable, insecure man who is upset that his shaky claims are being doubted. It’s a case of trusting my instincts, and my instincts told me this man oozing arrogance, bravado, swagger, and not much else was a fraud–that this was a business for him, showmanship. And he never provided a shred of proof that he did what he said he did in his former life. (Debbie Schlussel; Excerpted from “Enough, Walid Shoebat: Why is Sean Hannity’s Fake Terrorist Harassing Me?” September 16, 2008, – 11:34 am)

 

Schlussel is not a happy camper with Shoebat. She even uses the most conservative newspaper in Jerusalem as a source.

 

Back in 2008 I examined Schlussel’s accusations against Shoebat (and Kamal Saleem was included a bit). In 2008 I decided to err on the side of believing Shoebat although I did admit that there were some of Schlussel’s accusations not answered adequately by Shoebat. Then in 2011 I posted information that discredited CNN fake accusations because a significant of the CNN info was just plain false: “Defending Walid Shoebat against CNN and Muslim Apologists.”

 

I feel obligated to take another look at Shoebat now that the Commenter that identifies himself as Ali Sina Goldenberg question Shoebat’s integrity in reporting the Mohammed Movie story. Below Walid Shoebat and Keith Davies answer point by point their accusers and I have to tell you their rebuttal works for me.

 

JRH 9/21/12

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

By Walid Shoebat (about the author)

February 6, 2008 at 14:20:15

OpEdNews.com

SlantRight Editor: cross posted from Print Page

 

This article is published by opednews.com as an accomodation (sic) to allow Mr. Shoebat respond to an article about him by Eileen Fleming. Unfortunately, our website does not support arabic script, so you will see, where it was used, meaningless characters. (opednews.com)

 

The wisest man in history once said “be good to those who despise you.” In this article I will follow this instruction and personally thank Eileen Fleming who wrote for the Arabisto.com published also on OpeEdNews.com 1 in a smear campaign against myself and the United States Air Force for inviting me to speak against terrorism.

 

Fleming blames the Air Force academy for not doing due-diligence about me since she just came up with damning evidence about my credibility as a terrorist. But before I present this case, two questions that beg answers:

 

1—How could the Air Force be responsible for not examining her ‘facts’ especially since she presented her article after this invitation was known publicly?

 

2—Why should anyone have a problem fighting Islamic terrorism? Unless of course, such people cloak this evil phenomenon as a proper revolution to thwart the ‘evil’ occupiers like the United States and Israel.

 

Now to my case, I have been denied even my identity, to many I was a “Christian Lebanese Falangist,” a person who “never lived in Palestine,” “was never Muslim,” “no one knows him in Palestine,” “nothing can be confirmed of his origin, name, or identity,” “a fabrication,” “liar,” “imposter,” “Zionist paid agent,” “doing it for the money,” “Islamophobe disguised as X-terrorist,” and of course “racist.”

 

Yet it doesn’t matter what my critics do, it always benefits the cause of the truth since for years I have been confronted by media and Muslims to provide evidence to prove my identity, origin, Islamic connection and terror credentials which I shunned away. Now the claims regarding my credentials and the due-diligence that anyone needs is in Fleming’s own damning article. She was the reporter I prayed for years to come through, she obtained testimonies from my own Muslim family. Now I have a solid confirmation to my identity, origin, trouble with violence, connection to terrorist relatives and even imprisonment verification. Now I can put such accusations all behind.

 

THANK YOU EILEEN FLEMING.

 

The common phrase from the story of Joseph in Quran 12:26 and as we commonly say in the Middle East وشهد شاهد من اهلها “a family witness” that vindicated Joseph of lying should now apply to my case. While Fleming stated in her half done investigation article:

 

“Walid’s entire biography is a manufactured fabrication. His handlers have taken one point and have twisted it and built up a fictional story.”

 

But before I poke so many holes in her article including her valued witnesses which included only one name–Kamal Younis. I do believe that Fleming was honest on one point, that she did interview a few family members of mine since Kamal could have not known many details of my life in the U.S. But why the rest of her witnesses never gave their names?

 

Well, there are two reasons for this:

 

1—They fear retribution for being related to this infidel Walid Shoebat.

 

2—They fear retribution from American law for crimes committed by certain family members in the U.S. as you will see.

 

Let’s start with Kamal Younis’ testimony who is the brother of the prominent attorney Jawad Younis جواد يونس who defended Abu Zubaydah, a Palestinian living in Pakistan who is believed to be a key aide to Mr Bin Laden. Jawad was convicted by Israel in the good old days for his involvement and support for terrorism with the P.L.O. Mr.. Jawad Younis is known to have only one hand. His other hand was made out of plastic, but it didn’t have a hook.

 

Was Jawad a pirate as well?

 

Well, not exactly, his arm was blown off in his youth while messing with explosives. What was Jawad doing playing with explosives? I leave this to your imagination. Of course, they would claim that Jews planted booby traps in fountain pens to maim Arab kids. Jews would also poison candy, later this evolved that Jews lace Cadbury chocolate with Mad Cow disease. Jawad Younis the brother of Kamal Younis later becomes a prominent figure in exile in Jordan, yet the leopard doesn’t change it’s spots, Jawad as an attorney that defends Al-Qaeda operatives and even send a letter alongside of other delegates to congratulate Nasrallah the terror king pin of Hizbullah for his attacks on Israel.

 

So why didn’t Ms. Fleming contact the other side before publishing her story? Well it’s simple, she knows that I would have been glad to offer evidence to thrash her dishonest reporting which she knows she would never publish, but I will, point by point:

 

1—“His bio claims that his grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar (chieftain) of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem. Beit Sahour is adjacent to Bethlehem, not a part of Bethlehem.”

 

Had Fleming checked the Municipality of Bethlehem’s official website she would see the official statement made by Bethlehem’s municipality:

 

تعتبر بيت لحم مركزاً لقضاء يحمل اسمها ويضم مدينتين هما بيت جالا وبيت ساحور

In English “Bethlehem is considered to be a jurisdiction that it’s name [Bethlehem] holds and includes two cities—Beit Jala and Beit Sahur.” 2

 

In other words, Beit Sahur as well as Beit Jala are also Bethlehem. Is Fleming’s article correct and Bethlehem’s Municipality in error?

 

Yet this is a minor card, the rest of her deck of cards will fall. So one out, 17 more points to go.

 

2—“Walid’s bio claims his grandfather was a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler. Walid’s grandfather never even met him and was a peaceful man.”

 

Did I ever say that my grandfather (sic) was not a “peaceful man”? my book which was written way before Fleming’s silly discoveries stated “My grandfather liked everyone, and he had no problem selling land to Jewish or Christian immigrants. The village had much land with only a handful of families that immigrated in the last decade prior to the 1948 war.”

 

3 Kamal’s statement also confirms what I stated in my book, Beit Sahur had a handful of families. A land that was empty prior to my great grand father (sic). Jews never stole such lands, they bought them. My grand father (sic) sold land to the Jewish National Fund as did many prominent Arab leaders. 4 This fact is so well documented in Fasl Al-Maqal, owned by Arab-Israeli parliament deputy Azmi Beshara. Why didn’t my family deny this? He sold a parcel called Umm Al-Asafeer which was later sent back to the family after Oslo. Why did her article never mention this? Or any denial of this by my family? It’s because everyone knew it’s true. Their leader and Mukhtar sold land to Zionists.

 

I should also know the history of my grand father (sic) more then Mr. Kamal Younis (full name Kamal Younis Jum’a) Fleming should check his I.D and be amazed that I know what’s in it, yet he confirmed that my grand father (sic) was the Mukhtar of the Muslims. The land sale to the Jewish National Fund will prove that my grand father (sic) was considered a traitor. Abdul Qader Al-Husseni was appointed by Haj Amin (Adolf Hitler’s puppet) to execute so many chieftains (Mukhtars) in the whole region. Anyone that was considered peaceful or had connection with the Jews were to be executed. Of course, the Hussenis sold land to Jews yet they were immune. My grand father (sic) was one of these who escaped the massacre due to his connection with the family and with his father in law, my great grand father (sic). This story was known in the family and well documented on page 44 in my book. Many were not so lucky. This massacre between 1936 and 1938 carried out by Husseni’s men is so well known and well documented which included Sheikh Daoud Ansari (Imam of Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Ali Nur el Khattib (Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Nusbi Abdal Rahim (Council of Muslim Religious Court), Sheikh Abdul el Badoui (Acre, Palestine), Sheikh El Namouri (Hebron), and Nasr El Din Nassr (Mayor of Hebron). Between Feb. 1937 and Nov. 1938, eleven Mukhtars (community leaders) and their entire families were slain by Amin al Husseni’s men.5

 

Does Fleming desire to deny all this? If Mukhtars were proven beyond doubt to have been executed, and my family never denied this, would you not consider it logical that my grand father (sic) would be on such a hit list? He had a mock trial in Al-khader by Abdul Qader Al-Husseini and was rescued by his father in law Abdullah Ali Awadallah.

 

3—“Walid was born in September of 1960 in Beit Sahour after his American mother and father returned there from America…His older sister and brother were born in the USA”

 

This proves beyond doubt that I was born in Beit Sahur-Bethlehem as I claimed and all the denials of my origin were bogus. In fact I was born the first day my mother arrived, in a lowly place near the Shepherd’s Fields, lower than were Jesus was born (thank God). All this could be verified. In fact, Daniel Pipes of Middle East Forum who reads fluent Arabic examined my birth certificate himself. This can be found on:

 

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/27999

 

Had she cared to verify this she would never have published her article. If she doubts this, I will be willing to resubmit these documents to a trusted government agency.

 

That with many documents to prove not only my connection with that land, but my American family’s connection with Winston Churchill. These can be proven to such extent that Fleming would be ashamed of her flimsy article.

 

4—“and the family lived in Jericho until 1968, then in Saudi Arabia for two years then returned to Beit Sahour.”

 

This proves my testimony having lived during the 1967 Six Day War in Jericho as written in my books.

 

In fact I can prove that Younis has incorrect chronology, I lived in Saudi Arabia were my father worked for the Arab-American Oil Co (ARAMCO) in Ras-Tannura in 1962, then moved to Jericho.

 

5—“In 1976, his sister Mona was coming home from school with her friends and were stopped and beaten up by Israeli soldiers, they nearly broke Mona’s back. This made Walid very angry and shortly thereafter he attended his first demonstration against the occupation.”

 

This incident is correct the typical exaggeration that my sister’s back was nearly broken is false, she had a minor bruise while participating in a demonstration. Since my family’s own testimony proves that my sister is a United States citizen (she was born in the U.S.) I had arranged for my sister Mona to join an airlift from Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War since she was an American, her husband refused to allow her exit from Saudi Arabia. Such ownership of women prohibits them to even go to there (sic) country of origin. Don’t forget, it took my mother 35 years to escape the hell-hole called the Middle East. Would Fleming accept my mother’s testimony? Or will she accept the testimony of terror supporters instead?

 

6—“ In 1977 Walid was caught distributing Palestinian flags and was arrested and held for about two weeks in Mascubia [Russian Compound] Prison, until his mother went to the Embassy and got him released.”

 

This proves that I was in prison as I always claimed. All the rumors that my story cannot be collaborated do not hold any water. Did Fleming, the left wing anti-Christian reporter accept Zionist bribes to do this article and gain me what I have been looking for?

 

Fleming’s article is in fact my ace-in-the-hole. If I am not vindicated from my Zionist bribes accusation, does that mean that Fleming could and should be accused of accepting such bribes to do her story? I can be almost positive that you will later find accusations against Fleming for attesting to my family connection. When that happens, would Fleming join us to fight the half truths she reports?

 

7— “But, when he was in jail he met someone who invited him to join a group against Israel”

 

This further collaborates that I was recruited by Mahmud Al-Mughrabi a known bomb-maker and was in prison as I claimed. Had Fleming did what she accused the Air Force of not doing (proper due diligence) and checked on files in the Russian Compound prison to find both myself, Al-Mughrabi and Abu-Sneineh who served these short term prison time, she would have realized her stupidity to trust and eat out of a pigsty. Let’s not forget, Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi was a very close relative of Dalal Al-Mughrabi who killed more then 30 Israelis in a bus operation.

 

8—“In 1977 Walid and his friends put packages behind a bank, but there were no explosives in it.”

 

Does it make any sense that my entire family since 1977 remembers such and (sic) uneventful event of us placing empty boxes on the roof of a bank?

 

Also, had there been no explosion, why then would the Israelis make arrests? Muhammad El-Atrash was arrested for being close to the area when the explosion happened on top of the roof.. Nidal Shoebat my cousin should testify to this (if he wishes to be honest). Nidal who was an ambulance doctor was also injured when Israelis killed the most wanted terrorist Muhammad Abiyat (also spelled Abayat). I can supply these records which were documented by the United Nations.

 

Why would my family want to testify that Nidal was also a terrorist and risk the Israelis to go after him? Especially since his brother Eiad is wanted by the United States of America for money laundering and for a major fraud scandal of millions of dollars and is currently in hiding from U.S. authorities. This alongside other family members who drained by fraud the social security system collecting Social Security checks while living overseas by manipulating their identities. This is all linked to financial terrorism. Even their citizenships is fraud. Eiad who claimed to be a Mexican Farm worker and applying for citizenship should not be granted citizenship. He was not Mexican but an employee of Cal-Trans and a financial terrorist.

 

Everyone in my Muslim family supports the ideology of Islamic terrorism.

 

Does it make sense in a Palestinian culture of death and terror not to deny certain things?

 

Also, why didn’t my family deny that my other cousin Raed Khalil Awadallah was killed on his way to Ben Yehuda Street to plant a bomb? He too was supposedly innocent and the Israelis sold his inner body parts in the black market after killing him. The intricate lying and manipulating evidence from a people that even the Shahid’s dead body falls off the coffin and walks in on it’s own accord and back in the coffin in a funeral’s precession. All captured on film and all with support of the entire community of a known lie. Is this the type of people who Fleming trusts for a testimony?

 

My family also never denied that his brother Mahmud Khalil Awadallah was sentenced to life for planting bombs, then released by an international deal? These facts are easily obtained.

 

Did Fleming do any due-diligence on any of my accusers?

 

Or only on me?

 

Why the persistence to deny my terror connection? I confess. I did it. Why insist that my confession is a lie? Yet not examine my family who do not confess anything and the evidence of their crimes is overwhelming? Does she care to examine these facts and publish them? She can be my guest.

 

Do I fear the words of slanderers, thieves, and liars? Does Fleming care how she aids and abets the cause of terrorists? Would she include these in her article, or even apologize for her lack of due-diligence?

 

9—“Walid came to the U.S. in 1978”

 

This also proves my claim in all my books, I came to the U.S in 1978.

 

10—“met an Afghani friend and they went into business together, but it didn’t work out, so he moved to Chicago”

 

This also shows the lack of chronology, this is in reverse and wrong. I left to Chicago between 1980-1981, my business with the Afghan was not a failure which was in 1992 way later. I moved to Chicago after leaving my Jewish wife.

 

11—“he moved to Chicago in 1981 where many cousins live and asked for help. He went to Loop College [now Harold Washington College] and was appointed as a foreign student advisor; a position offered him so he could pay his tuition.”

 

This proves my Chicago connection just as I stated in my books. It also proves that there is a Loop College, would the Muslim Student Association of Michigan Ann-Arbor University send an apology for passing leaflets denying my story since they never found a Loop College or a Jamal Said?

 

This also proves that I was a counselor for the Arab Students as I claimed. I believe all this came from Mr. Kamal’s nephew Adnan Younis who was with me during our activism. This also can be collaborated from Mary Edwards (currently Mary Edwards Wertsch), a reporter and a girl friend who served on the team to defend Ziad Abu Eian, a terrorist who killed 3 Israelis, also James Zughbi the director of the Arab-American Institute was on that committee to help this terrorist who was later extradited to Israel to serve his sentence after loosing (sic) his court case in the U.S. Ziad was later released through a deal, then evolved to become in charge of the Palestinian prison system of Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas. Can anyone imagine an inmate and a terrorist running a jail system of the entire Palestinian Authority?

 

12—“The repo man took Walid’s truck and after that he went back to California”

 

The repo man took the truck while I was staying with Mary Edwards in her apartment by the Wrigley Field. Mary was helping on a defense case for Ziad Abu Eian the terrorist.

 

13—“he went back to California. He met a Palestinian girl there and they got married and had a son. But, he beat his wife and that marriage broke up.”

 

Wrong chronology again, I left to Chicago from California and left behind my Jewish wife whom I was abusive to. This is documented in my book “Why We Want To Kill You.” I later married a Palestinian girl from Beit Sahur, this can be proven. Also, I never beat my Arab wife, only the Jewish wife got her fair share of Muslim style beatings. Had I beaten my Arab wife she would have easily won the court case in California when we divorced. In fact, the court awarded my current wife Maria the child and found the pure and perfect Palestinian Muslim girl guilty of abandoning her infant. All this can be verified from court records which I have. In fact I have won every case that I was involved in. If I entertain the thought of suing Fleming for slander, I would probably win. For she wrote:

 

“Walid’s entire biography is a manufactured fabrication. His handlers have taken one point and have twisted it and built up a fictional story.”

 

In fact, I can prove that her story is the one twisted in several areas. Does Flemming care to challenge me? Would she take a challenge from a seasoned and experienced X-terrorist? Will she dare debate me? Dialogue? I seriously doubt it.

 

14—“Walid’s maternal grandparents were wealthy and when they died Walid was to share the inheritance with his sister and brother, but his siblings never received a dime from their grandparent’s estate. And, while his own father was in a nursing home in California Walid took his mother and moved far away from him to another city.”

 

So I inherited so much money? Why then accuse me of doing this for money?

Would Flemming care to investigate and report my American connection? She would find that without a shadow of doubt that my American family connects with a close friendship with Winston Churchill.

 

From my American side—Anti-Hitler

 

From my Arab side—Pro-Hitler

 

Which choice should I make Ms. Flemming?

 

The claim that I took my mother away from my father is inaccurate, this could easily be proven. In fact, my father was denied by his own family after he stabbed Abu-Issa Al-Atrash and opened his stomach. The family publicly abandoned my father and called me to take him to the states. This was the rescue of my mother who was finally able to come home to her beloved country after 35 years of exile and spousal abuse that could be documented in horror books. Should my mother remain with her tormentor? If my father was so peaceful, why did all his brothers abandon him? Even his Muslim son (my brother) abandoned him and refused to help his parents to come to the U.S. I was stuck with all the expenses, I even paid for the damage he caused back in Beit Sahur.

 

The truth is difficult.

 

In fact, I should speak to the Air Force, after all my brother was in the Air Force who trained his Muslim daughter not to salute the American Flag. Why? Because she was told by his Gaza born wife that her country was Palestine, not America. This is the shame that I abandoned.

 

15—“and when they [Walid’s grand parents (sic)] died”

 

My grand father (sic) died. My American grand mother is still living at the age of 94 which also could be verified, may God give her longevity. This proves that Flemming’s witnesses are half-cocked.

 

Here’s the real scoop, the family thinks that since she is an American woman, she should not hold to her wealth and should give it to them before she died. Like a pack of wolves after a frail and weak deer.

 

16—“Walid was to share the inheritance with his sister and brother, but his siblings never received a dime from their grandparent’s estate.”

 

This is typical, the elderly American grand mother (sic) was bombarded by my brother and father continually haranguing the elderly lady who wanted nothing to do with them or any Islamist connection. The Christian side of the family, my mother, grand mother (sic), wife, myself and two children, decided to break up after the threats, spying, and continual insults we received from my father and brother.

 

Now, if someone is still living, how could someone divide their wealth? How can I divide this wealth with my siblings? The woman still lives. What gives these greedy bunch a right to divide someone’s wealth before they die?

 

On the other hand, Fleming failed to contact myself to find out that I have full evidence of land ownership that was stolen by the very people who are complaining. The family offered me an ultimatum—come to Bethlehem Court and denounce my Christian faith, or loose (sic) my land. Does Fleming care to examine my property that was stolen and the inheritance that was denied to me in Bethlehem? I have full documentation—sale deed and land survey.

 

17—“”Walid claimed on CNN that he met Sheikh Jamal and was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and claimed he had been a member of a U.S. sleeper cell terrorist group. All his relatives doubt this greatly, but we do believe he is being paid big money to keep saying bad things about Muslims.”

 

They would not know what happened to me after I left their apartment in Chicago on Lawrence and Kedzy. Adnan Younis was jealous and offended and asked me to move out. Why? Adnan’s girlfriend began to date me instead and he was jealous so he urged the family to ask me to leave. I did, then I left the P.L.O activism to join with Jordanian Ghazi Dhabaybeh, a contact and coordinator of Jamal Said.

 

18—“[Alex] Awad shows problems with his timeline and his poor knowledge of the Christian leaders in Palestine”

 

Would Fleming whose witnesses were lousy keepers of chronology care to share these “problems with his timeline”? There is nothing in either her source clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/issue_pdfs/102/11/News-07-11-09.pdf which I examined in detail, no, not a single line, or in her article to show a single problem with timelines. Does a serious journalist make a claim without providing any evidence? Or maybe Fleming is not a serious journalist.

 

Does she believe Alex Awad who passed newsletters claiming that Israelis are shooting at Beit Jala, yet failing to mention that they were defending Gilo from terrorists who occupied Christian homes in Beit Jala to shoot across the Jewish community of Gilo?

 

Should we believe half truths, and one-sided stories that never gave the other side a chance to challenge the claims she made?

 

Does she or Alex Awad believe in Jesus, the Governor of Judah, The Jewish Messiah? Or the Palestinian Jesus of Alex and Hanan Ashrawi’s own concoction?

 

Fleming states “Discernment and good intelligence is what our troops need, and that is not what they are receiving on February 6, 2008 at the USA Naval Academy, in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in the heart of the western Bible Belt.”

 

Fleming, Alex, or any of her witnesses are welcome to stand against me in a debate over my integrity anytime, either in public or in private, of course after she makes public my article. I doubt they will come forward. For they will only incriminate themselves. Sure I confess my terrorism, yet these deny their support of it. What has been presented proves beyond doubt that:

 

A—That I did live in Beit Sahur-Bethlehem

 

B—I am from an American mother.

 

C—My grand father (sic) was the main chieftain of the Muslims of Beit Sahur-Bethlehem who at his time was dominated by the largest clan “Shoebat” (also spelled Shuaybat), yes there are other minor chieftains.

 

D—That even my name Walid Shoebat is accurate. I realize that in my book it was mistakenly printed by my editor as an assumed name. A fraudulent person would definitely make a name up—I chose not to.

 

E—All the claims of my identity having never lived in “Palestine” being a disguised Falangist and Zionist Jew are bogus, I was telling the truth.

 

So who was the idiot after all?

 

THANK YOU EILEEN FLEMING..

 

1http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_eileen_f_080201_usa_air_force_academ.htm

 

2— [SlantRight Editor: Foot Notes end here at OEN post]

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CNN SMEAR CAMPAIGN—THE MISSING FACTS

What Anderson Cooper did not know

 

Walid Shoebat

July 2011

WalidShoebat.com

 

Anderson Cooper on CNN interviewed his investigative reporter Andrew Griffin regarding the credibility of Walid Shoebat advising Homeland Security.

 

But what Anderson Cooper did not know during this interview were THE FACTS:

 

LIE #1: In Mr. Griffin’s article he wrote: “Neither Shoebat nor his business partner provided any proof of Shoebat’s involvement in terrorism, despite repeated requests”.

 

FACT: There were no repeated requests. What is damaging to CNN’s credibility is that we have all the email exchanges to prove that every request was answered and The Shoebat Foundation did respond to all of CNN’s emails and was even offered several documents including credible witnesses to validate Mr. Shoebat’s account:

 

“We will be willing to provide copies of documents that will answer your questions and witnesses on the condition that you guarantee they are protected and no names or photos or the contents of such documents will be made public. We will have you review these in person”. (see first email below) CNN never complied.

 

LIE #2: CNN claimed that they investigated Mr. Shoebat and had asked several agencies about Shoebat’s past.

 

FACT: On Anderson Cooper 360, Griffin never released any interviews with any official agency; no interviews with any police official, government officials or any recorded calls or any memos or any email correspondence (which we did) that validate any investigation took place with anyone.

 

Unless this is done CNN has no case.

 

We have also learned thru unimpeachable sources that CAIR operatives secretly worked with CNN in carrying out this political assassination of Mr. Shoebat.

 

Additionally, if CNN released the entire interview between Mr. Griffin and Mr. Shoebat it will destroy the whole claim and prove that CAIR’s input was evident. During the interview on tape Griffin claimed that he investigated Mr. Shoebat and found out that records show he was paid $13,000 and that he never have called Bank Leumi Branch in Bethlehem which today doesn’t even exist.

 

In the interview Griffin simply was repeating an article written by CAIR, which falsely claimed that the Shoebat Foundation was paid $13,000. Anderson Cooper should review the entire interview, which is damaging to CNN. What Griffin did was simply rely on an article written by CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) based on an old article in which 3 x-terrorists were paid $13,000 in an event at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Griffin then changed his story to include the correct amount.

 

Griffin later found out that there was no Bank Leumi branch in Bethlehem to call since that branch was closed in which Griffin changed both stories with Cooper and lied intentionally. Griffin also stated that he checked with the Israeli police in Bethlehem when fact is, there is no Israeli police station in Bethlehem and the Palestinian Authorities would have no such records. Griffin later changed the story to say that he called Bank Leumi in Tel Aviv. Fact is, Bank Leumi in Tel Aviv has no such records either. Anyone can call Bank Leumi’s headquarters in Tel Aviv and check. We called ourselves and there are no records in Bank Leumi that tracks terrorist operations during 1976-1977.

 

LIE #3: Griffin claimed that he searched the Israeli prison records and there was nothing under the name Shoebat.

 

FACT:

 

1) Mr. Shoebat’s imprisonment can easily be verified with a click of a button since Mr. Griffin was not the only one investigating Mr. Shoebat’s prison story. Journalist Eileen Fleming who attempted to debunk Mr. Shoebat’s account on an OpedNews.com story had interviewed Shoebat’s family who confirmed that Mr. Shoebat was indeed in prison: “But, when he was in jail he met someone who invited him to join a group against Israel”. All of CNN’s claims were debunked several times over in the past and its (sic) not the first time this happened.

 

2) Even if Mr. Griffin did check prison records, he was searching the wrong name. Had CNN examined our records that were offered to them, it will prove beyond doubt that Mr. Griffin made an error. When Mr. Shoebat was arrested he turned in his U.S. passport and not his birth certificate or I.D. card. His U.S. passport had a different last name.

 

Mr. Shoebat was born in Bethlehem and since his mother was a U.S. citizen he was under her passport as a child. When he matured he held his own passport, which used his mother’s information, which is not under the name “Shoebat”. We offered to clarify all this to CNN (see same email) on the condition to keep the documents private. CNN refused to offer privacy.

 

3) Mr. Shoebat was not in jail for his bombing operation but for planning civil unrest in which he was released without charge since the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem intervened in the case. He later joined a terror cell in Jerusalem. If Mr. Griffin was searching court cases and terrorism charges, he would not find anything. Yet Griffin talked about not finding court records regarding imprisonment for a terrorism case of a bombing operation in Bethlehem Manger Square.

 

LIE #4: CNN claimed that Walid’s cousin confirms that Walid was never a terrorist

 

FACT: CNN failed to ask Daood Hassaan Shoebat if he had any links to terrorists. He did. How could Daood Shoebat, the uncle of famed terrorist Arin Shoebat and Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat be a credible witness since both terrorists can be verified without a shadow of doubt. Arin Shoebat was the renowned mastermind of the dual Operation in which Issa Bdeir detonated a bomb, killing him along with innocent Jewish civilians. Arin survived, hesitating to kill children, a similar account to that of Walid’s, who published his story years prior to Arin’s activity. Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat is on the list of official martyrs. Anyone can use google translate in Arabic can confirm both links in which these names match 100%.

 

LIE #5: Mr. Griffin claimed that there was never a “firebomb” thrown on Bank Leumi and neither was there anything of that sort in Bethlehem Manger Square [during 1976-1977]

 

FACT: Mr. Shoebat never made any claim that he threw a Molotov cocktail on a bank, which completely debunks Mr. Griffin’s entire investigation. Why would anyone remember such a minor event? Mr. Shoebat had a real time bomb assembled by the notorious terrorist Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi whose account can be completely verified through United Nations reports and news agencies (see Lie #7, Point 1).

 

The most damaging to Mr. Griffin’s story is that there was a bombing at the Bank Leumi in Bethlehem’s Manger Square — as described in Mr. Shoebat’s books. What was not published in Walid’s books was a later research that was also documented by the United Nations. Between December 24 and 27, there were two explosions in that area: “Bethlehem (in Manger Square near the Church of the Nativity)” and “Explosive charge went off outside the local Courthouse 27 December 1977 JP. 2 Jan. 1978 Yediot Aharonot, 2 January 1978.”

 

 

LIE #6: Americans are wasting tax dollars in hiring Mr. Shoebat or x-terrorists to explain terrorism.

 

FACT: Police use X-Drug addicts to expose the mindset of drug users in order to combat the epidemic. Why can’t x-terrorists do the same? In fact, most FBI agents that deal with terrorism were involved on the war on drugs and now are transferred to the war on terror. Muslim terrorists are Muslim and it’s impossible to study the mindset without understanding Islam. This is the whole purpose to CNN’s attack.

 

LIE #7: Mr. Shoebat bills himself as an x-terrorist on the basis of a bombing activity of Bank Leumi.

 

FACT: Mr. Shoebat is rarely billed as an x-terrorist on the basis of only bombing Bank Leumi. Mr. Shoebat’s story is billed on the basis of several proven accounts:

 

1) He was recruited into the PLO by prison cellmate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi – which led to the former’s involvement in a bomb plot that targeted several Bank Leumi branches.

 

Several bombings of Bank Leumi are well documented in the United Nations Reports.

 

Al-Mughrabi [1] was Mr. Shoebat’s prison mate and his PLO recruiter: he sent Walid to bomb the Bank Leumi branch in Bethlehem. After his release from the Masqubiyeh, he was considered enough of a danger that Israel assassinated him on October 1, 1985: Israeli F-15B Eagle war planes, in Operation Wooden Leg, hit Arafat’s Tunisia headquarters in retaliation for the PLO’s murder of Israelis in Larnaca, Cyprus one week earlier. (The assassination mission that killed Al-Mughrabi can be pulled up on video [2] via Al-Jazeera.) Arab sources like Middle East Report lamented his death:

 

In pain and sorrow we learn that our friend Mahmud Al-Mughrabi was killed during the October bombing raid in Tunisia. Mahmud was born in Jerusalem in 1960. By the age of 16 he was under detention 12 times and he was one of the first to speak in public about the methods of interrogation of Palestinian detainees used by the General Security Services in Israel. He then gave his permission to being publicly identified as an informant for the Sunday Times expose of Israeli torture in June 1977. In 1984, he managed to escape to Jordan after years of increasingly marginal existence under steadily deteriorating conditions of military occupation.

 

Famed Egyptian terror-apologist Edward Said spoke of Al-Mughrabi:

 

One of the victims of the Tunis bombing was Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi, born in Jerusalem in 1960, under detention twelve times by the age of 16, one of the informants of The Sunday Times to expose of torture in Israel (19 June, 1977) who “managed to escape to Jordan after years of increasingly marginal existence under steadily deteriorating existence of the Israeli occupation”, according to a memorial notice by Israeli Jewish friends that was repeatedly denied publication in Arab newspapers in East Jerusalem by Israeli military censorship.

 

Al-Jazeera and Said are not “Zionist” sources, but Arab.

 

While Walid’s partner in crime and prison cell mate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi was denied to have ever existed, he was notorious, very real and quite dangerous. He was a secret correspondent for the British Sunday Times – hired to report alleged tortures in the Russian Compound (Jerusalem Central Prison) and his name was published by the United Nations while privately conducting terror plots.

 

2) Close family ties to high as well as low-ranking terrorists, which can be reasonably proven. Walid was well connected to several terrorist members of his own family whom CNN interviewed—preferring to use these—to collaborate a false claim. Yet such interviews only add to his credibility.

 

A—His cousin was – Areen Ahmad Shoebat – the renowned mastermind of the dual Operation Reshon Letzion in which Issa Bdeir detonated a bomb, killing him along with innocent Jewish civilians. Areen survived, hesitating to kill children, a similar account to that of Walid’s, who published his story years prior to Areen’s activity.

 

B—Walid fled to the United States and was mentored under Jamal Said who is said to be an associate of Abdullah the godfather of Al-Qaeda who later was involved with the I.A.P (Islamic Association of Palestine) a branch of Hamas, which gave birth to CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) which CNN is defending.

 

C—Then we have another cousin, exiled terrorist Jawad Younis who became Abu Zubaydah’s lawyer in absentia. Abu Zubaydah ended up in U.S. custody to later testify against 911 ‘mastermind’ Khalid Sheik Muhammad. Jawad is still an Islamist troublemaker in Jordan and an ardent supporter of Hezbollah:

 

“To His Excellency Mr. Nasrallah Secretary General of Hezbullah the Victorious by the will of Allah …We grip our hands with you, and all the Jihadists for the cause of Allah…as you lunge with your souls for the battle of the [Islamic] nation, to fight the demonic forces of America and Zionism, the sons of the great Satan.” Signed as #4 of this delegation Jawad Younis. (Letter of support to Nassrallah, dated 7/19/2006, published July 27th, 2006)

 

D—Another cousin is Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat, killed while attempting to plant a bomb at Ben Yehuda Street. Raed Awadallah Shoebat is on the official martyrs list. Anyone can use google translate from Arabic can confirm all the links in which these names match 100% to be Walid’s relatives.

 

E—Another cousin is Mahmoud Khalil Awadallah Shoebat who was imprisoned for years for his terror activity to later be released in a plea bargain. All the Awadallah Shoebat names provided are within the same household of the CNN witness Mr. Daood Awadallah Shoebat seen lying through his teeth.

 

F—Another cousin Eiad Shoebat, has an arrest warrant by the FBI wanted to major financial fraud suspected to be terror related. This involved contra band, passport fraud and major financial embezzlements that could be related to terrorism. This can be confirmed with the FBI. Homeland Security did all the proper due-diligence that CNN never did.

 

C—Walid’s violent acts included street violence and hand-to-hand confrontations with Israeli forces. On one occasion Walid nearly lynched an Israeli soldier, which also can be confirmed by accessing Israeli news archives on March 18th as well as March 30th 1976. The news broadcaster was Karam Zarour (Oded Zarrai) who broadcast the news item on 8 PM news on the Arabic station on Israeli TV. CNN never accessed the archives.

 

D—Walid’s experience in Chicago being active with the PLO as well as the Muslim Brotherhood prior to the inception of the I.A.P (Islamic Association of Palestine) which later gave birth to CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations). It is for this reason CNN and CAIR attack Mr. Shoebat.

  

It is important that when we examine evidence to avoid character assassinations due to political affiliation. CNN has a liberal agenda and we are conservative. Let us put our affiliations aside and pursue the facts. Will CNN be willing to pursue the facts or is there an agenda in line with CAIR’s?

 

Regardless of the facts, many will still doubt and continue the slander, but for those who do, try to refute a single fact we presented, they can’t.

 

[1] Al-Mughrabi: http://www.moghrabi-jerusalem.com/shohdaaa/mahmoud.htm

 

[2] video: http://rachedarfaoui.over-blog.com/article-36803579.html

 

FROM:

Keith Davies

 

TO:

Lister Tim

Message flagged

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:23 AM

 

Message body

Tim,

 

>It is my role at CNN to check all reporting for attribution and balance

And it is my roll to protect my client. We will be willing to provide copies of documents that will answer your questions and witnesses on the condition that you guarantee they are protected and no names or photos or the contents of such documents will be made public. We will have you review these in person.

 

In other words, such documents, phone calls to witnesses and names must be used to ONLY verify your quest and does not become part of your coverage. You can have your attorney call mine to iron out the details.

 

I also need to know if you are doubting Mr. Griffin’s claim that he called Bank Leumi. We will not go through a one way street in which you demand information and do not confess your mistakes. Mr. Griffin had made several claims which were proven false. Would you like me to point them all out again?

 

They are on film. Even Kathy Johnson claimed that the chant “To Jerusalem we march” during Egypt’s uprising was in Alexandria. Her attempt to refute the fact was also false; it was in Cairo Tahrir Square as Mr. Shoebat stated on camera. Try to find someone that knows what they are talking about instead of telling me about “attribution and balance”.

 

We have been telling the truth so far and provided you with an initial report and will not continue this unless you agree to our request to protect individuals lives and admit your mistakes.

 

Let me know if you agree and we can cooperate TOGETHER or else we should stop our exchange.

 

Keith Davies

From: “Lister, Tim” <Tim.Lister@turner.com>
To: Keith Davies <lalric3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

Thank-you for your reply. It is my role at CNN to check all reporting for attribution and balance; and to follow up leads that would ensure the most complete coverage of any story.

 

As regards the incident in Bethlehem in 1978, I note that in 3 – F of your original e-mail, you offer contact details for a journalist who has interviewed eyewitnesses. We would be very grateful for those details so as to be able to make every check possible.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

 


From: Keith Davies [mailto:lalric3@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:26 PM
To: Lister, Tim
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

 

Dear Mr. Lister,

 

Thanks for your inquiry regarding the vetting process of Mr. Shoebat. I did not see your email of last Wedneaday (sic) till now. Thanks for following up.

 

When we were first contacted by CNN asking for evidence that corroborates Mr. Shoebat’s life account, we were glad, since we felt that you were serious in doing a joint effort in investigating the story and provided you with our initial detailed report. We also contacted our own sources in Israel to do some checking on what Mr. Drew Griffin erroneously claimed that he “personally contacted Bank Leumi” regarding the bombing which we had our contacts in Israel check to only find out that Mr. Griffin’s account was certainly false and that we believe Mr. Griffin had plagiarized his record.

 

We did not reflect this on the entire CNN team, so in our effort to iron this issue out we filed a complaint in which we referred to evidence as to why we believe that Mr. Griffin was being dishonest (see below). We summarized in our emailed letter that: “your investigators never called the bank but relied on a fraudulent article”.

 

We obtained a disappointing reply from Mr. Feder dated June 13, 2011, which stated that: “We stand by the reporting upon which Ms. Johnston and Mr. Griffin based their questioning.  Your assumptions as to their sources have no basis in fact, and your allegations of lying are false and without basis”.

 

Although the response had no details to corroborate Mr. Griffin’s account, we concluded that you stand by your investigation and chose to provide your viewers with this false information since CNN was not able to corroborate Mr. Griffin’s claim.

 

The reason that we are at a loss is that after reading Mr. Feder’s response, which states that Mr. Griffin is being truthful, then Mr. Shoebat’s account must be according to you false.

 

And now we obtain an email that has valid inquiries from you, which if one reads can conclude that CNN is not fully convinced of Mr. Griffin’s account.

 

If you believe Mr. Griffin’s account, then why even continue this investigation? Why not simply make your story as it stands?

 

We are at a loss here since we still would like to presume our corroborated effort in obtaining the facts to provide your viewers.

 

Sincerely

 

Keith Davies,

The Shoebat Foundation

_____________________

 

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:10 PM

Subject: Your e-mail

 

Dear Mr. Davies,

 

Your May 29 email to Christa Robinson and Mark Whitaker has been forwarded to me for a reply.  We will take your concerns under advisement.

 

We stand by the reporting upon which Ms. Johnston and Mr. Griffin based their questioning.  Your assumptions as to their sources have no basis in fact, and your allegations of lying are false and without basis. Your email has been forwarded to CNN’s attorneys.

 

Dear Mr Whitaker:

 

I am filing a formal complaint against two of your “investigative journalists” Drew Griffin and Kathy Johnston for lying to us when they were questioning Mr. Shoebat (my client) in Rapid City SD. Drew Griffin  one of your journalists stated that he received information from a “trusted source” that Mr Shoebat was paid $13,000 for his speech/lecture for the DHS in Rapid City (This is on Camera ) This “trusted source” was CAIR – Council for American Islamic Relations” which has shown many times in the past a biased hatred for Mr. Shoebat and have made many false accusations against him. Even CAIR in their latest release against Mr. Shoebat stated the  correct amount which came day or two after the event in which somebody at the DHS told them the actual figure, which was $5000.

 

The second lie is more serious in which Drew Griffin as well Kathy Johnston in an email confirmed that “CNN contacted Bank Leumi branch which Walid stated he had bombed in Bethlehem in 1976.”  CNN or your investigators never called the bank but relied on a fraudulent article written by a freelance journalist, in his article stated he contacted THE BANK LEUMI, which was the bank Shoebat had bombed. This freelance journalist had an anti Shoebat agenda and his article was published only in the Op Ed column of the Jerusalem Post which the Newspaper later printed a rebuttal. Further we hired an investigator ourselves and the bank branch in question was closed in 1996. The article written by Jorge Luyken in the Jerusalem Post was written in 2008, 12 years later so he could have never called the bank branch in question. Our investigator also contacted Bank Leumi headquarters in Israel who stated they would never release information like this unless one was a customer of the bank.

 

We would appreciate if you can ask these journalists their “trusted sources” internally so that you can determine whether you wish to expose facts to your audiences or slanted bias, egged on by the propaganda of CAIR whom seems to have an alliance which should not be tolerated by any independent media.

 

We asked Kathy Johnston by email the source of the person at Bank Leumi but she was unwilling to provide based on “protecting sources.” We fail to see how the so called source at the Bank Leumi could be in any danger or hurt for revealing a simple fact.  If CNN is serious about the integrity of its news gathering some questions need to be asked concerning the agenda regarding this story as well as verifying for yourself as leaders of CNN News, the integrity of these journalists. If they lie about us then how can they be trusted with other important stories.

 

I look forward to hearing your comments and findings? please indicate when I should receive a complete response?

 

From: “Lister, Tim” <Tim.Lister@turner.com>
To: lalric3@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:25 AM
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

Checking that you received this e-mail. Very much hope that you can help with the questions below.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

 


From: Lister, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:35 PM
To: ‘lalric3@yahoo.com’
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

I am involved in the vetting process for a story concerning Mr Walid Shoebat that has been shot by Drew Griffin. His producer Kathleen Johnston passed on to me your long and detailed e-mail of May 27th.

 

Thank-you for the information you have provided. We are still trying to find the answers to several questions.

 

Can I ask you to provide further details as follows?

 

We are having very little luck tracking down any of the Board members of the Forum for Middle East Understanding. If you have any contact information for board members, I would be very grateful for it. I note from IRS Form 990 from 2009 that Lance Silver is listed. Is he still a board member and are there any others?

 

As regards the incident in Bethlehem in 1978, I note that in 3 – F, you offer contact details for a journalist who has interviewed eyewitnesses. We would be very grateful for those details.

 

Do you have any contact details for James al-Yateem, who is referenced in your e-mail and Mr Shoebat’s blog posting of May 18th this year?

 

Similarly, in 4 – C, we have had no luck in accessing Israeli TV archives (which are very incomplete for that time) or in tracking down anyone by the name of Karam Zarour. Could that name be spelt differently? 

 

Are you able to furnish us with any documentary evidence of Mr Shoebat’s convictions in Israeli court?

 

Can you tell us when Mr Shoebat entered the US ? Were US immigration authorities aware of his record of violence on behalf of the PLO?

 

Thank-you for your time – and for helping us pin down as many details as possible about Mr Shoebat’s experiences and background.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

Executive Editor, CNN

____________________


Click Here To Read Walid Shoebat’s “Confession”…

 

 

Drew Griffin CNN’s “Investigative Journalist” Who Lead the Smear Campaign at the Full Instigation of CAIR is a Proven Liar….

 

Drew Griffin CNN investigative reporter

 

He is exposed by Bill O’Reilly who has an audience 10 times bigger than CNN, I wonder why?

 

We received an unsolicited email from an unimpeachable source that CAIR was fully involved and helped CNN with this smear. Obviously we cannot reveal the name as it would compromise him, which is frustrating for us. CNN are lying when they denied CAIR’s involvement as they did through the whole story.

We need help from you out there: both to write to Anderson Cooper and CNN about your outrage. Keep emails short and professional.

 

We believe his email is: anderson.cooper@turner.com

head of CNN is: mark.whitaker@cnn.com 

You also might like to scour blogs that attack Walid’s credentials and link a positive comment with a link back to: http://shoebat.com/credentials.php

________________________________

Walid Shoebat Accusers use Half-Truth Data to Condemn Him

John R. Houk

© September 21, 2012

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

Copyright © 2002-2012, OpEdNews

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

© Copyright 2002-2010 Top Executive Media. All rights reserved.

[SlantRight Editor: I am guessing the Shoebat guys have not updated the copyright info yet.]

Huma Abedin-Muslim Brotherhood Themed Stories


 

IMMA Editorial Board - Saleha and Huma Abedin

 

Posted August 12, 2012

 

Here are a series of articles questioning the National Security risks that might probably exist between Huma Abedin and the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

The contributors are ACT for America highlighting an Andrew Bostom essay, two articles from WalidShoebat.com and finally the best and the must read article by Danny Jeffrey that points the finger of shame-on-you toward John McCain, John Boehner, Lindsey Graham, Ed Rollins (former Bachmann for Prez Campaign Manager) and Fox News for putting Michelle Bachmann into cement shoes and tossing her in the river to placate political correctness and undoubtedly multiculturalist thinking.

 

HOW CRAZY IS THAT?

 

JRH 8/12/12

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Why Leftists Ally with Islamists


Muslim asks - Vote Dem

Has anyone ever wondered why Muslim Apologists and Leftists from the full scale of Socialism (Socialist Democrats, Christian Progressives, Marxists, Communists and yes even Nazis [as in Nazi is derived from the English National Socialism and German Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei]) seem to have an unspoken agreement to attack the Biblical faith of Judaism and Christianity?

 

Walid Shoebat has some excellent insight on the odd unified agenda of Leftists and Islam.

 

JRH 6/1/12

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