Civil Disobedience the God-Kind-of-Way


John R. Houk, Blog Editor

© February 19, 2021

 

If you haven’t noticed, I am an extreme proponent of CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE to be acted out against a fraudulently elected nominally headed by CCP Joe Biden. I say, “nominally” because CCP Joe is obviously cognitively challenged. AND if CCP Joe isn’t operating with all his wits, SOMEONE is calling the shots. That “SOMEONE” is a Deep State mystery to me. I suspect the “SOMEONE” is a closet collective oligarchy that may or may not involve Commie Kamala the fraudulently elected Vice President. Civil Disobedience challenges that become massive will probably expose who is actually the power (or powers) acting in the fraudulently led Executive Branch as violent coercion emerges to force compliance.

With that little preamble I ran into Intercessors For America post by Karen Hardin that includes a link to a Rumble video which I will embed.

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Interestingly Hardin shares she was not a Trump voter in 2016 (but neither a Crooked Hillary voter). Hardin shares how she became a Trump supporter then gets into the meat of her a little over an hour Rumble video. The discussion centers around the Biblical command of Romans 13: 1-2 which tells Christians to obey the governing authorities. Here is the New King James Version of those two verses:

13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will [a]bring judgment on themselves. (Romans 13: 1-2 NKJV)

IF you just read those two verses it sounds like Christians are to sheep for the Dem-Marxist slaughter. With a little patience Hardin explains why Christians are only subject to the governing authorities wittingly or unwittingly enforcing law that is in common ground with the Will of God.

When one reads the entire chapter of Romans 13, a better context of how Christians should act under unjust tyranny is more apparent. Obey when godly governance. Disobey ungodly tyranny in acts of godly Civil Disobedience when possible. When civil violence against godless tyranny emerges, this is a post for another day.

Here is the entire Chapter of Romans 13 using the Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC):

13 Let every person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God’s appointment.

 

Therefore he who resists and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].

 

For civil authorities are not a terror to [people of] good conduct, but to [those of] bad behavior. Would you have no dread of him who is in authority? Then do what is right and you will receive his approval and commendation.

 

For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, [you should dread him and] be afraid, for he does not bear and wear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant to execute His wrath (punishment, vengeance) on the wrongdoer.

 

Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God’s wrath and escape punishment, but also as a matter of principle and for the sake of conscience.

 

For this same reason you pay taxes, for [the civil authorities] are official servants under God, devoting themselves to attending to this very service.

 

Render to all men their dues. [Pay] taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, and honor to whom honor is due.

 

Keep out of debt and owe no man anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor [who practices loving others] has fulfilled the Law [relating to one’s fellowmen, meeting all its requirements].

 

The commandments, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet (have an evil desire), and any other commandment, are summed up in the single command, You shall love your neighbor as [you do] yourself.

 

10 Love does no wrong to one’s neighbor [it never hurts anybody]. Therefore love meets all the requirements and is the fulfilling of the Law.

 

11 Besides this you know what [a critical] hour this is, how it is high time now for you to wake up out of your sleep (rouse to reality). For salvation (final deliverance) is nearer to us now than when we first believed (adhered to, trusted in, and relied on Christ, the Messiah).

 

12 The night is far gone and the day is almost here. Let us then drop (fling away) the works and deeds of darkness and put on the [full] armor of light.

 

13 Let us live and conduct ourselves honorably and becomingly as in the [open light of] day, not in reveling (carousing) and drunkenness, not in immorality and debauchery (sensuality and licentiousness), not in quarreling and jealousy.

 

14 But clothe yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah), and make no provision for [indulging] the flesh [put a stop to thinking about the evil cravings of your physical nature] to [gratify its] desires (lusts). (Romans Chapter 13 AMPC)

Below is the Karen Hardin IFA post which will include an embed of her Rumble video teaching session.

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SHOULD CHRISTIANS SUBMIT TO ALL AUTHORITY?

 

By KAREN HARDIN, IFA CONTRIBUTING WRITER

FEBRUARY 18, 2021

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Lord, we ask you for wisdom and discernment on how to walk through the confusing issues hitting us on a regular basis. Open our minds and hearts to understand the scriptures.

In recent days, as the Biden Administration has taken action to promote abortion, encourage transgenderism, and more, many Christians are praying about submission to governmental authority. Here’s what an IFA Contributing Writer has to say on the subject.

Immediately following the inauguration, I had many people tell me, “We have to submit. This is God’s will.” They would then quote Romans 13:1-2,

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Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.  Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

 

The scripture seems pretty clear cut doesn’t it? But what about the times from history in which its not?

For example,

  • When Peter and John defied the religious leaders of their day to continue to preach the Gospel.
  • When the Hebrew mid-wives ignored Pharaoh and refused to kill the Hebrew babies.
  • When Daniel continued to pray openly defying the king’s edict.
  • When Paul, who wrote Romans 13 regarding governing authorities, then opposed them.

Which is right? And what are we supposed to do today regarding some of these same issues and the question of whether we are to submit to all authority?

If we state that Romans 13:1-2 mandates that we submit to ALL authority, does that mean that the Germans and Jews should have submitted to Hitler? If so, that would mean Dietrich Bonhoeffer was in rebellion and sin.

Was he? Hardly. Instead, he is remembered as a godly man of courage who stood up to evil.

What about Moses when he opposed Pharaoh? Or the disciples in the book of Acts?

Paul wrote Romans 13 telling the First Century Church to submit to “all” authority. Yet afterwards, he personally stood up to the authorities. Was he wrong?

In order to answer that question, we must compare the Bible to the Bible. It never contradicts itself. We also should compare the Bible to our Constitution. Because what many Americans don’t realize is that they actually agree. Why? Because contrary to the current narrative, the majority of our founding fathers were Christians and even those who weren’t, used the Bible as a foundational framework for our Constitution.

So, should Christians submit to ALL authority? Click below to find out how I would answer that question.”

https://rumble.com/vdsh9n-karen-hardin-godly-authority.html?mref=fcgqv&mc=7us7m

[Rumble VIDEO: Karen Hardin – Are We to Submit to ALL Governing Authorities?

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Published February 12, 2021

Are Christians to submit to ALL governing authorities?

Romans 13:1 states, “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.

The scripture seems pretty clear cut doesn’t it? But what about the times from history in which its not?

For example, MORE TO READ]

Lord, we ask you for wisdom and discernment on how to walk through the confusing issues hitting us on a regular basis. Open our minds and hearts to understand the scriptures. You said You would instruct us and teach us in the way we should go. That you would guide us with Your eye upon us. Where there is confusion, Lord we ask you for clarity. Where there is fear, we ask for faith. Show us how to stand for You when we are confronted with issues that are contrary to Your Word.

 

What do you think about Christians and submission to authority? Leave a comment below . . .

 

Karen Hardin is the author “INFECTED: How to Stop the Global Spread of Rage, Deception and Insanity” To order click here. She is a literary agent, author, and intercessor. Her work has appeared in USA Today, World Net Daily, Intercessors For America, Charisma, CBN.com, The Elijah List, etc.

She is also co-founder of the City-by-City prayer movement to save our nation. For additional information on her ministry, business or to sign up for her prophetic blog go to: www.karenhardin.com or you can contact her at www.prioritypr.org.

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Civil Disobedience the God-Kind-of-Way

John R. Houk, Blog Editor

© February 19, 2021

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SHOULD CHRISTIANS SUBMIT TO ALL AUTHORITY?

 

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The Christian’s relationship to U.S. government


Christians concerned about speaking out publicly about a corrupt government NEED to read this post by Bob Livingston. Mr. Livingston very effectively contrasts and balances the concept of making a difference in government when the Bible also tells us to be subject to those in authority because earthly authority exists to thwart evil and protect community peace.

 

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The Christian’s relationship to U.S. government

 

By Bob Livingston

Posted on June 19, 2017

Personal Liberty

 

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“We must obey God rather than men

 

And thus spoke the Peter the apostle to the council, (Luke 5:29 NASB) in response to the high priest’s questioning about why he and the apostles were teaching Christ in the temple in defiance of the council’s instruction the day after an angel of the Lord released them from their prison.

 

And that’s the example the Christian must follow.

 

But in Romans 13, Paul tells us that we must be in subjection to the governing authorities.

 

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor. Romans 13:1-7 (NASB)

 

Some of our more conservative brethren would tell us that there is little we can or should do or say in response to an abusive government because it is “established by God.” In fact, I know many of our conservative brothers and sisters who don’t even bother to follow politics at all or even vote, preferring instead to be content with being “in subjection.”

 

I have even seen some claim that if we so much as question the authority of our “leaders” or point out the corruptions of the politicians and government institutions that we are engaging in a spirit of rebellion; and not just rebellion against earthly authorities but against God. But is it? If we write or speak about corrupt government institutions, politicians or bureaucrats, are we acting contrary to God’s word in Romans 13?

 

To be a Christian, we are to be like Christ. In Matthew 23, Christ told His disciples that the scribes and Pharisees had seated themselves in Moses’ chair (had taken for themselves Moses’ authority) and they (the disciples) were to do what the rulers told them to do, but not do as the scribes and Pharisees did, because they were hypocrites. The scribes and Pharisees claimed to follow the law and held the people to the law but did not follow it themselves.

 

That sounds very much like the political class of today who walking the halls of power in the District of Criminal and in most state capitols.

 

Then Jesus called out the scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites in the eight “woes” he uttered as recorded in verses 13 through 29, pointing out their wrongdoing.

 

The Apostle Paul was imprisoned, stoned, beaten and left for dead for obeying God rather than man. In Acts 22 we read that after Paul was seized in Jerusalem because he “preaches to all men everywhere against our people and the Law and this place; and besides he has even brought Greeks into the temple and has defiled this holy place (Acts 21:28 NASB),” he was taken away by Roman guards at the direction of the Jews and stretched out with thongs so as to be scourged. The text reads:

 

But when they stretched him out with thongs, Paul said to the centurion who was standing by, “Is it lawful for you to scourge a man who is a Roman and uncondemned?” When the centurion heard this, he went to the commander and told him, saying, “What are you about to do? For this man is a Roman.” The commander came and said to him, “Tell me, are you a Roman?” And he said, “Yes.” The commander answered, “I acquired this citizenship with a large sum of money.” And Paul said, “But I was actually born a citizen.” Therefore those who were about to examine him immediately let go of him; and the commander also was afraid when he found out that he was a Roman, and because he had put him in chains. Acts 22:25-29 (NASB)

 

What Paul did here was to invoke his rights as a citizen. He did so again in Acts 25:11 when he appealed to Caesar over his imprisonment, defying the Jewish ruling authorities, who he believed he had not wronged.

 

So clearly our example in Scripture is we can use the legal rights available to us under the laws.

 

Now back to Romans 13. America’s is designed as a citizen-oriented representative government, not a monarchy or dictatorship. The Constitution was created as chains to bind men’s powers. Every politician in America swears an oath to abide by it. The powers they have they get from the Constitution.

 

So understanding Romans 13 in context of American government we should read Romans 13 this way, as Chuck Baldwin has pointed out:

 

Every person is to be in subjection to the [U.S. Constitution]. For there is no [Constitution] except from God, and [it is] established by God. Therefore whoever resists [the Constitution] has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed [the Constitution] will receive condemnation upon themselves. For [the Constitution is] not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of [the Constitution]? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for [the Constitution] is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for [the Constitution] does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. Therefore [the Constitution] is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for [the Constitution is a servant] of God, devoting [itself] to this very thing. Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor. Romans 13:1-7 (NASB)

 

The 1st Amendment protects (to some extent) our freedom to engage in speech and to petition government for redress of grievances. When we point out in speech or writing the corrupt nature of politicians and government institutions, and how they have exceeded the authority granted them under the Constitution, we are doing no more than Christ did when he called out the scribes and Pharisees, and no more than Paul did when he invoked his rights as a Roman citizen under Roman law.

 

So we can be politically active and not be in violation of God’s law. Telling our friends and neighbors that our institutions and politicians are corrupt is not a violation of God’s law. Guaranteeing our ability to inform others of the government’s transgressions so they can petition their representatives intelligently is precisely one of the 1st Amendment’s purposes. Engaging in political discourse or pointing out corruption is neither a violation of man’s law nor God’s. And we are to obey the law whether the “leaders” do so or not, as Christ told his disciples.

 

But we should also remember Paul’s admonition in Titus 3:2-5.

 

“…to malign no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all men. For we also once were foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another. But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us…”

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