Trump and the End Times


Trump v Hillary

Tony Newbill and Yurki have a comment exchange on the NCCR post “Hillary More Crooked than Anyone Realizes”.

 

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Trump and the End Times

Tony Newbill and Yurki1000

May 23, 2016

 

n3angus

May 20, 2016 at 12:35 AM

 

Great Post John!!!!!! Now ask why did Hilary say all this before she said she regrets what she said??????


http://dailybail.com/home/must-see-hillarys-business-opportunity-in-iraq.html

 

MUST SEE: ‘Hillary’s Business Opportunity In Iraq’

 

SHOCK FOOTAGE

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A very powerful clip that runs just 35 seconds. The entire point of the clip is the ending, so don’t skip that part.

 

Hillary explains why we should begin to view Iraq as a business opportunity with economic growth projected to be faster than China.

 

HERE’S THE FULL CLIP

 

VIDEO: Newly surfaced footage of Hillary Clinton could damage her on ISIS/Terror/Iraq

 

 

Posted by Maurice Lawerence

Published on Dec 25, 2015

 

2014 – Hillary Clinton laughs about the “hard choices” of sending US soldiers to the Middle East, while admitting she made a mistake voting to authorize the Iraq War.

2011 – Hillary Clinton is excited about Iraq’s promising future as a business opportunity for US companies and Oil.

2002 – Hillary Clinton parrots Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld as she votes “with conviction” to give Bush the authorization to invade Iraq.

 

LISTEN TO HER SINISTER LAUGH

 

She laughs about the death of thousands of young Americans. (MUST SEE: ‘Hillary’s Business Opportunity In Iraq’; The Daily Bail; 5/19/16 5:03 AM)

 

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yurki1000

May 20, 2016 at 12:13 PM

 

Simpsons- Screw Rules I got Money

Simpsons- Screw Rules I got Money

 

Thanks n3angus. I Think Frank Zappa Knew Something Back In “Those Days”

– As with the band’s previous two albums, We’re Only in It for the Money is a concept album, and satirizes left and right-wing politics, particularly the hippie subculture, as well as the Beatles’ album Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. It was conceived as part of a project called No Commercial Potential, which produced three other albums: Lumpy Gravy, Cruising with Ruben & the Jets and Uncle Meat. – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We%27re_Only_in_It_for_the_Money

 

ALLMUSIC

 

http://www.allmusic.com/album/were-only-in-it-for-the-money-mw0000628302

 

From the beginning, Frank Zappa cultivated a role as voice of the freaks — imaginative outsiders who didn’t fit comfortably into any group. We’re Only in It for the Money is the ultimate expression of that sensibility, a satirical masterpiece that simultaneously skewered the hippies and the straights as prisoners of the same narrow-minded, superficial phoniness. Zappa‘s barbs were vicious and perceptive, and not just humorously so: his seemingly paranoid vision of authoritarian violence against the counterculture was borne out two years later by the Kent State killings. Like Freak OutWe’re Only in It for the Money essentially devotes its first half to satire, and its second half to presenting alternatives. Despite some specific references, the first-half suite is still wickedly funny, since its targets remain immediately recognizable. The second half shows where his sympathies lie, with character sketches of READ THE REST (AllMusic Review; By Steve Huey)

 

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n3angus

May 20, 2016 at 12:50 PM

 

I’m sure you were aware of the threats to Mr. Trump made last year? And put it together with the Hillary Video [Same as Youtube – “Newly surfaced footage of Hillary Clinton …” above]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr-TJTisSbc 

 

And you can see what is said here makes sense.

 

With Donald Trump’s policy positions on the Middle East mirroring Russia’s:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/donald-trump-is-much-derided-but-he-is-right-about-the-middle-east-a6698171.html

 

Donald Trump is much derided – but he is right about the Middle East

World View: The candidate is demo[n]ised as an exotic celebrity but he knows more about Iraq and Syria than his critics

 

 

I remembered Trump and his anti-noise campaign when watching him in recent weeks being repeatedly interviewed as presidential candidate about the Middle East. The interviewers for television and newspapers were generally hostile, or at least patronising and incredulous, when Trump spoke positively about Russian intervention in Syria, the need to combat Isis and the disastrous state of Iraq and Libya. Most of what he was saying was common sense, but it is a measure of the degree to which propaganda slogans have replaced realistic discussion of these problems that his remarks were immediately dismissed or derided by politicians and the media.

 

Asked by an NBC news presenter if Iraq and Libya had been better off when Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were in power, a question most politicians would have dodged, Trump said: “Iraq is a disaster … Libya is not even a country. You can make the case, if you look at Libya, look at what we did there – it’s a mess. If you look at Saddam Hussein with Iraq, look what we did there – it’s a mess.”

 

 

Speaking about the White House’s policy of supporting the Syrian armed opposition, Trump truthfully said the administration “doesn’t know who they are. They could be Isis. Assad is bad. Maybe these other people are worse.” He said he was bothered by “the concept of backing people they have absolutely no idea who they are”. Again, US officials admit that they have armed opposition fighters who, on entering Syria promptly handed their weapons over to Jabhat al-Nusra, the local representatives of al-Qaeda. Trump added: “I was talking to a general two days ago. He said: ‘We have no idea who these people are.’”

 

 

Trump discounts the widespread belief that Putin wants to destroy these mythical moderates and for some unexplained reason will not attack Isis. He has objected strongly to long discredited nostrums such as “nation-building”, suggesting in another interview that it is wrong “to tell people who have [had] dictatorships or worse for centuries how to run their own countries”.

 

It is worth viewing or reading these interviews with Trump and taking them seriously, because in Britain and much of the United States, Trump is demonised as an exotic celebrity with no understanding of what is happening in the world. Also noticeable is the depressing degree to which the interviewers parrot an acritical establishment line on developments in Iraq, Libya and Syria. This media blindness compounds government misjudgements and prevents lessons being learned from previous disasters.

 

It is not that Trump shows any great clairvoyance, but his words resonate because there is such a vacuum of clear thinking in Washington and Western Europe about the wars that are sweeping the Middle East and North Africa. Most politicians are …

 

It should by now be clear that defeating Isis and bringing an end to the Syrian and Iraqi civil wars can only be brought about by agreement between the five main outside powers involved in the war: the US, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey. … It is a measure of the failure of Western leaders to understand the crisis in the Middle East that, in speaking of it, none of them show the same clarity of mind as Donald Trump. READ ENTIRETY (Donald Trump is much derided – but he is right about the Middle East; By Patrick Cockburn; Independent; 10/17/15 20:07)

 

However, this report says, he has been reviled by the warmongers in the United States (of both parties) since July, 2000, when he released his book titled “The America We Deserve”:

 

http://www.amazon.com/The-America-Deserve-Donald-Trump/dp/1580631312 

 

Which a full 14 months prior:

 

http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/10/20/donald-trump-predicted-911-fourteen-months-before-it-occurred-named-bin-laden/ 

 

Donald Trump predicted 9/11 fourteen months in advance, named bin Laden?

 

Two hundred millions Americans can be wrong, but maybe in this case not entirely. Put somewhat differently, maybe real estate mogul Donald Trump is not quite as full of it as many observers of the current political landscape have observed.

 

The latest kerfuffle in which Trump is embroiled is his seeming to blame George W. Bush for allowing 9/11 to happen, an insinuation that has created fresh bad blood between Trump and Jeb Bush, who has risen to his brother’s defense.

 

But it turns out that Trump authored a book titled “The America We Deserve,” which hit the bookstores in July 2000, 14 months before 19 Islamic terrorist commandeered jetliners and crashed them into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

 

The blog PC Graveyard notes that Trump foretold the attack and even mentioned Osama bin Laden by name:

 

“I really am convinced we’re in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers…. No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen.”

 

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“One day we’re told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan…. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.”

 

READ THE REST (Donald Trump predicted 9/11 fourteen months in advance, named bin Laden? By Ben Bowles; Liberty Unyielding; 10/20/15)

 

To the 11 September 2001 (9/11) attacks predicted not only this horrific crime would happen, but actually stated that Osama bin Laden would be blamed.
In fact, this report warns, so feared is Donald Trump by his nations warmongers should he take power and uncover all of their secrets, top establishment Republican consultant Rick Wilson in an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes last week actually called for his assassination, and as, in part, one can read from the transcript: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/28/gop-establishments-rick-wilson-donor-class-must-put-a-bullet-in-donald-trump/

“Trump is still a very powerful force right now” because he appeals to part of the of the conservative base that Wilson said was activated by his “nativist” message. Wilson insisted that the donor class “can’t just sit back on the sidelines and say, ‘oh well, don’t worry, this will all work itself out.’”

 

 

“They’re still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump,” Wilson said. “And that’s a fact.”

The Oligarchy is very Ideologically Strung out and it’s going to take being aware of this for the nation to be rejoined with its citizens and their Liberties which have been Usurped like what was shown in Burns the beginning of this year, which Arnold Law has Now filed for a Motion for Dismissal under, 43 U.S. Code § 1068 – “Lands held in adverse possession , and if you listen to this report: http://thepetesantillishow.com/government-will-hate-this-oregon-occupation-far-from-over/

 

GOVERNMENT HATES IT WHEN THIS HAPPENS – THE OCCUPATION IS FAR FROM OVER

 

MOTION TO DISMISS: Adverse Possession & Ammon Bundy’s Constitutional Challenge ~ Courtesy of The Arnold Law Firm

 

Ammon Bundy’s peaceful protest at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge was an act of civil disobedience and a calculated legal maneuver through adverse possession (43 U.S. Code § 1068 – “Lands held in adverse possession”). The protest was in part designed to force the federal government into court to address the constitutionality of its federal land management policy. The very legal issue that Mr. Bundy sought to clarify – which remains unresolved from a constitutional basis – provides the foundation for the criminal prosecution of Mr. Bundy. He contends that the constitutional challenge to the federal government’s jurisdiction over the land in question must be resolved before proceeding with the prosecution of Ammon Bundy – if indeed any grounds remain upon which to mount a legitimate prosecution.

 

An individual has a direct interest in objecting to laws that upset the constitutional balance between the National Government and the States when the enforcement of those laws causes injury that is concrete, particular, and redressable [sic].” Bond v. United States, 564 U.S. 211, 221-22, 131 S. Ct. 2355, 2364 (2011).

 

Defendant Ammon Bundy organized his fellow citizens in protest of the expansive and unsupported interpretation of the Constitution that READ THE REST (GOVERNMENT HATES IT WHEN THIS HAPPENS – THE OCCUPATION IS FAR FROM OVER; ThePeteSantilliShow.com; 5/16/16)

 

 

Arnold Law Firm

May 9 at 2:12pm 

 

MOTION TO DISMISS: Adverse Possession & Ammon Bundy’s Constitutional Challenge

 

Contrasted with shallow and uninformed media portrayals and government hyperbole, Ammon is not an “extremist” and is not a member of any militia, patriot group, or political land protest organization. With this motion, the hyperbole stops now. Mr. Bundy is not a militia member or a so-called “sovereign citizen,” and he does not hold anti-government views. Ammon is a well-established and well-res… See More

Ammon Bundy - Photo by Justin Sullivan-Getty Images

Ammon Bundy – Photo by Justin Sullivan-Getty Images

 

Ammon Bundy is an ‘originalist’ just like Antonin Scalia, says defense

 

Motion to dismiss charges against Oregon standoff leader call him a peaceful protester sharing constitutional views with the late supreme court justice

THEGUARDIAN.COM|BY SAM LEVIN

 

We the People are Under Siege by a VERY EVIL Oligarchy!!!!!! Take care and Good Luck in Fighting to Make America Great Again!!!!!

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yurki1000

May 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM

 

Thanks n3angus. You are very informative

Everything around us tells us that we are in the end times. So. What’s important? To save our souls. The Bible tells us that after the Rapture there will be hard times. As I understand there will be beheadings of those people who won’t take the Mark of the Beast. Their souls will be saved. Others will take the “mark”. They will go to Hell.

 

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV) 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-4.htm [Parallel verses of Rev. 20:4. Yurki uses the KJV in the quote below]

 

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

The guillotines are there already.

 

https://www.google.fi/#q=fema+guillotines [Finland Google Search of fema guillotines]

 

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“The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.” (Isaiah 24:20)

“When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto His voice; (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God), He will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which He sware unto them.” (Deuteronomy 4:30-31)

“Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.” (Matthew 24:42-44)

“And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” (Luke 21:34-36)

“Because thou hast kept the Word of My patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” (Revelation 3:10)

“I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (Luke 17:34-36)

“Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, My people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, until the indignation is past. For behold, the LORD comes READ THE REST

 

Blessings
Jyrki

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Edited by John R. Houk

Text embraced by brackets are by the Editor.

 

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Why Islam Sucks


Islam Sucks 2

John R. Houk

© March 21, 2016

 

Here is a Muslim apologist defending Islam (well actually an edited version for easier readability in English. The unedited version is HERE):

 

Islam sucks? Who is Jesus? [You say] it’s Essa [aka Esa or Isa is Quran for Jesus], son of God? No, God don’t have anybody no family no dad no mom no bro no Baby no sis nothing he’s the creator. Mohammed is The One who gives us the peace! (Islam means peace! You say Brutal? All Christians Have much more Big Crimes. Bigger then Islam. 80% of Islam is On peace! And 60% of Christ is Peace!! You don’t know anything about Islam and you talk about it. ALLAH. Will show you one day a lesson. To say that the Islam sucks! Islam is the best! Peace! I don’t say Christ is not right or right! [hmm… maybe right or wrong] But Islam Is the best for me! Don’t talk about Islam like that. One day you will know why! (Zhaksbsu; March 18, 2016 at 6:29 PM; as NCCR comment to “Doesn’t This Matter?“ posted 10/10/13)

 

In full disclosure it is my sense that Zhaksbsu is sincere and not spewing disinformation propaganda (aka Taqiyya and here’s the expose on Muslim apologists lying that Taqiyya means piety). As is the case with many Muslims who like to be under the label “Moderate.” Zhaksbsu believes his Imam or Cleric when told the half-truth about Islam, peace, the Son of God and so on.

 

There are many Biblical references that show Islam is not only a false religion but also an antichrist religion.

 

21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

 

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:21-23 NKJV)

 

Since Islam revered writings – the Quran in particular – deny that Jesus is the Son of God the Christ Savior of all who believe, Islam is an antichrist.

 

I discovered an ex-Muslim turned Christian that gives some solid reasons why Islam is a false religion. Then after that Yurki1000 gives a Grace oriented message to Zhaksbsu’s self-deceived thoughts that Islam is peace and good so don’t criticize Islam.

 

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10 Reasons Islam Is Not From God

 

By Ney Reiber

The Interactive Bible

Islam: Truth or Myth?

 

Reason #1:

 

Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God’s first test for a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God.

 

(Deuteronomy 18:21,22, NAS95) 21 “You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’ 22 “When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

 

Muslims recognize this and try to overcome the principle of God confirming his revelation with signs by asserting that the revelation of the Qur’an itself is a sign. When Muhammad was challenged by the Jews and Christians to produce a sign, he received a special revelation from Allah.

 

Qur’an 6:37-39, 36. And they said: “Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?” Say: “Allâh is certainly Able to send down a sign, but most of them know not.” 38. There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communitie like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered. 39. Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allâh sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills.

 

Muslims claim that the Qur’an itself is the sign God gave Muhammad.

 

Notice the difference in the Muslim claims and the evidence put forward by the Hebrew writer in Hebrews 2:3-4,

 

“How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?”

 

Reason #2:

 

Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad’s teaching does not pass the second test God gave for a prophet. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 tells us that no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation. His revelation must agree with the previous revelation of God. Deuteronomy 13:1-4

 

Deuteronomy 13:1-4, 1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

 

Muhammad’s revelation contradicts the previous revelations in both facts and principles. Consider the account of Joseph. In the Qur’an, Qur’an 12, Yusuf Beginning in Ayah 21.

 

Qur’an 12:21-34, 21. And the Egyptian who bought him said to his wife: Give him an honorable abode, maybe he will be useful to us, or we may adopt him as a son. And thus did We establish Yusuf in the land and that We might teach him the interpretation of sayings; and Allah is the master of His affair, but most people do not know. 22. And when he had attained his maturity, We gave him wisdom and knowledge: and thus do We reward those who do good. 23. And she in whose house he was sought to make himself yield (to her), and she made fast the doors and said: Come forward. He said: I seek Allah’s refuge, surely my Lord made good my abode: Surely the unjust do not prosper. 24. And certainly she made for him, and he would have made for her, were it not that he had seen the manifest evidence of his Lord; thus (it was) that We might turn away from him evil and indecency, surely he was one of Our sincere servants. 25. And they both hastened to the door, and she rent his shirt from behind and they met her husband at the door. She said: What is the punishment of him who intends evil to your wife except imprisonment or a painful chastisement? 26. He said: She sought to make me yield (to her); and a witness of her own family bore witness: If his shirt is rent from front, she speaks the truth and he is one of the liars: 27. And if his shirt is rent from behind, she tells a lie and he is one of the truthful. 28. So when he saw his shirt rent from behind, he said: Surely it is a guile of you women; surely your guile is great: 29. O Yusuf! turn aside from this; and (O my wife)! ask forgiveness for your fault, surely you are one of the wrong-doers. 30. And women in the city said: The chiefs wife seeks her slave to yield himself (to her), surely he has affected her deeply with (his) love; most surely we see her in manifest error. 31. So when she heard of their sly talk she sent for them and prepared for them a repast, and gave each of them a knife, and said (to Yusuf): Come forth to them. So when they saw him, they deemed him great, and cut their hands (in amazement), and said: Remote is Allah (from imperfection); this is not a mortal; this is but a noble angel. 32. She said: This is he with respect to whom you blamed me, and certainly I sought his yielding himself (to me), but he abstained, and if he does not do what I bid him, he shall certainly be imprisoned, and he shall certainly be of those who are in a state of ignominy. 33. He said: My Lord! the prison house is dearer to me than that to which they invite me; and if Thou turn not away their device from me, I will yearn towards them and become (one) of the ignorant. 34. Thereupon his Lord accepted his prayer and turned away their guile from him; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

 

Now consider the same account from the Bible in Genesis 39:7-21

 

(Genesis 39:7-21, KJV) 7 And it came to pass after these things, that his master’s wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me. 8 But he refused, and said unto his master’s wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand; 9 There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God? 10 And it came to pass, as she spake to Joseph day by day, that he hearkened not unto her, to lie by her, or to be with her. 11 And it came to pass about this time, that Joseph went into the house to do his business; and there was none of the men of the house there within. 12 And she caught him by his garment, saying, Lie with me: and he left his garment in her hand, and fled, and got him out. 13 And it came to pass, when she saw that he had left his garment in her hand, and was fled forth, 14 That she called unto the men of her house, and spake unto them, saying, See, he hath brought in an Hebrew unto us to mock us; he came in unto me to lie with me, and I cried with a loud voice: 15 And it came to pass, when he heard that I lifted up my voice and cried, that he left his garment with me, and fled, and got him out. 16 And she laid up his garment by her, until his lord came home. 17 And she spake unto him according to these words, saying, The Hebrew servant, which thou hast brought unto us, came in unto me to mock me: 18 And it came to pass, as I lifted up my voice and cried, that he left his garment with me, and fled out. 19 And it came to pass, when his master heard the words of his wife, which she spake unto him, saying, After this manner did thy servant to me; that his wrath was kindled. 20 And Joseph’s master took him, and put him into the prison, a place where the king’s prisoners were bound: and he was there in the prison.

 

Consider the differences in the facts presented about the lives of the Biblical characters. In the Qur’an Potiphar was at the door when Joseph fled. He wasn’t at home in the Bible Account. In the Qur’an, Potiphar believed Joseph while in the Bible Potiphar believed his wife. In the Qur’an, Joseph requested that he be put in prison so that he might avoid the temptation of women and in the Bible, he was imprisoned by Potiphar for accosting his wife. Surely it is easy to see the differences. Joseph is just a sample. There are other contradictions in almost every account of the lives of Bible people. In the Qur’an, one of Noah’s sons died in the flood while in the Bible, all of them were on the ark. Compare the Biblical account of Lot with the Qur’an’s account of Lot (Lut in the Qur’an-NR). In the Qur’an, Abraham’s father was an idolater and forced Abraham to leave home for trying to teach monotheism, while the Biblical account has Abraham leaving after his father’s death.

 

Now consider just one principle that is set forth in the New Testament with the principles set forth in the Qur’an.

 

The New Testament, Matthew 5:44, But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

 

The Qur’an, Qur’an 61, the Ranks, Ayah 4. Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall

 

The Qur’an, Qur’an 2, The Cow, Al Baqarah Ayah 190. And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. 191. And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

 

What a contrast. Jesus says to love, forgive, and pray for your enemies. The Qur’an says to kill them. If that isn’t a different doctrine than what was revealed, nothing is.

 

Reason #3:

 

Islam cannot be from God because it denies the Godhood of Jesus. In the Qur’an, Muhammad takes great pains to deny the deity of Jesus. It demeans Jesus and makes him just a man. In Philippians, Paul asserts that Jesus existed in the form of God.

 

Qur’an 4:171 “O people of the book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God naught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: So believe in God and His messengers…”

 

(Philippians 2:5-9, NAS95) 5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,

 

Reason #4:

 

Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad frequently changed his revelations to suit circumstances. The classic example is Muhammad’s teaching on drinking. When he was just beginning to teach, before Muhammad gained a significant following he said that it was alright to drink.

 

Qur’an 2:219 They ask you Concerning wine; gambling, Say “In them is great sin, And some profit for men; But the sin is greater Than the profit.

 

As his power base grew, he presented a stronger position. It was not acceptable to have had any intoxicants close enough to prayers to fog the mind.

 

Qur’an 4:43 O you who believe! Approach not prayer With a mind befogged, Until you can understand All that you say.

 

When his position was strongly established, he forbade the use of intoxicants entirely.

 

Qur’an 5:93 O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (Dedication) of stones, And (divination by) arrows, Are an abomination, – Of Satan’ handiwork: Eschew such (abomination) That you may prosper. 94. Satan’s plan is (but) To excite enmity and hatred Between you, with intoxicants And gambling, and hinder you From the remembrance Of Allah, and from prayer: Will you not then abstain?

 

His final revelation calls the use of intoxicants “Satan’s handiwork.” This puts him in the awkward position of having had Allah approve of “Satan’s Handiwork’ when he said that there was “some profit for men” in the use of intoxicants.

 

Does God vacillate on sin?

 

Reason #5:

 

Islam cannot be from God because its appeal is to man’s lower nature rather than his higher nature. Compare the Biblical appeal of heaven to the Quranic appeal of heaven.

 

The Biblical Appeal

 

Matthew 5:10-12, 10. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

 

Peter 1:3-4, 3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

 

Mark 12:24-25, 24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? 25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

 

Revelation 7:9-17, 9. After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

 

The Qur’an makes a large portion of its appeal to the fleshly appetites and sensibilities of man.

 

Qur’an 37: 40. But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah, 41. For them is a Sustenance Determined, 42. Fruits (Delights) and they (Shall enjoy) honor and dignity, 43. In Gardens of Felicity, 44. Facing each other On Thrones (of dignity): 45. Round will be passed To them a Cup From a clear flowing fountain, 46. Crystal white, of a taste Delicious to those Who drink (thereof), 47. Free from headiness; Nor will they suffer Intoxication there from. 48. And beside them will be Chaste women, restraining Their glances, with big eyes (Of wonder and beauty) 49. As if they were (Delicate) eggs closely guarded.

 

Qur’an 4:57. But those who believe And do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, With rivers flowing beneath, – Their eternal home; Therein shall they have Companions [wives, NR] pure and holy; We shall admit them To shades, cool and ever deepening.

 

Qur’an 44:51. As to the Righteous (They will be) in A position of Security, 52. Among Gardens and Springs; 53. Dressed in fine silk And in rich brocade, They will face each other; 54. So; and We shall Join them to Companions With beautiful big And lustrous eyes. 55. There can they call For every kind of fruit In peace and security; 56. Nor will they there Taste Death, except the first Death: and He will preserve Them from the Penalty Of the Blazing Fire.

 

Which makes its appeal to the higher nature of man? The Bible does.

 

Which is more likely to be from God – that which appeals to man’s higher nature, or that which appeals to his baser nature? The Bible is more likely to be from God than the Qur’an because its appeal is to man’s higher nature, while the appeal of the Qur’an is to man’s lower nature.

 

Reason #6:

 

Islam cannot be from God because its morality is inferior to the morality taught by the New Testament. In examining the contradictions between the Bible and the Qur’an, we encountered Jesus’ teaching that we were to love and pray for our enemies while the Qur’an says to fight and kill your enemies. There is a tremendous gap in the standard of morality between the two standards. Which is more likely to be from God, the high standard of morality, or the low standard of morality?

 

Reason #7:

 

Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon a document, the Qur’an, made after God said revelation was finished.

 

Paul said that revelation would come to an end: 1 Corinthians 13:8, Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

 

Jude 3 tells us that the faith was fully delivered: Jude 3, Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

 

Peter said that every thing that was necessary for man to be pleasing to God had been revealed.

 

2 Peter 1:3, According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

 

Reason #8:

 

Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon the Qur’an which has internal contradictions. Any revelation from God will be consistent within itself. It will not contain internal contradictions. Since the Qur’an does contain internal contradictions, it cannot be from God, and any religion that is based upon it is not from God.

 

The Qur’an says that man was created from a clot of blood.

 

Qur’an 96:1. Proclaim (or Read) In the Name Of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man out of A (mere) clot Of congealed blood;

 

The Qur’an says that man was created from was created from clay.

 

Qur’an 6:2 (Also 7:12) 2. He it is Who created You from clay, and then Decreed a stated term (For you). And there is In His Presence another Determined term; yet Ye doubt within yourselves!

 

The Qur’an says that man was created from was created from water.

 

Qur’an 25:54. It is He Who has Created man from water: Then has He established Relationships of lineage And marriage: for thy Lord Has power (over all things).

 

These are internal contradictions that indicate the origin of the Qur’an was not the mind of God, but the mind of man, Muhammad.

 

Reason #9:

 

Islam cannot be from God because the Qur’an frequently contradicts the Bible.

 

The Qur’an advocates the beating of wives who are perceived to be misbehaving.

 

Qur’an – 4:34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband’s absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband’s property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great.

 

The Bible teaches that man is to love his wife and treat her as his own body.

 

Ephesians 5:25-29, 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

 

Surely God will not change his mind about such a significant principle in husband and wife relationships. The Quranic ideal is contrary to the teaching of the New Testament.

 

Reason #10:

 

Islam cannot be from God because it denies the crucifixion of Jesus.

 

The central figure of the New Testament is Jesus. From his temptations in the desert to the resurrection, the focus of Jesus is his death on the cross to provide a sacrifice for mankind’s sin. The Qur’an denies that Jesus died on the cross and that would then preclude his resurrection. It is the contention of Islam that God took Jesus into heaven and transformed Judas to look like Jesus. The teach that it was actually Judas who died on the cross.

 

Qur’an 4:157. That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The apostle of Allah”; But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, But so it was made To appear to them, And those who differ Therein are full of doubts, With no (certain) knowledge, But only conjecture to follow, For of a surety, They killed him not.

 

The Bible clearly and plainly teaches that Jesus was crucified on the cross.

 

Matthew 27:35, 35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

 

1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

 

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Whoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be Saved

 

Jesus saves today.

 

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We are in the end times.

 

Acts 2:17 “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”

 

Will happen soon:

 

RAPTURE

 

1 Thessalonians 4:17 “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

 

Rapture of the Church Google search

 

TRIBULATION

 

Mark 13:19 “For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.”

 

Great Tribulation Google Search

 

PEACE

 

Revelation 20:2 Context 1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

God’s Kingdom on Earth Google Search

 

God bless you and your family.

 

Acts Chapter 16 KJV

 

1. Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father wasa Greek:

 

2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.

 

3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

 

4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.

 

5 And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

 

6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,

 

7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not.

 

8 And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas.

 

9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.

 

10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.

 

11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia, and the next dayto Neapolis;

 

12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

 

13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.

 

14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

 

15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.

 

16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

 

17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

 

18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

 

19 And when her masters saw that the hope of their gains was gone, they caught Paul and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the rulers,

 

20 And brought them to the magistrates, saying, These men, being Jews, do exceedingly trouble our city,

 

21 And teach customs, which are not lawful for us to receive, neither to observe, being Romans.

 

22 And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them.

 

23 And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:

 

24 Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks.

 

25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.

 

26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one’s bands were loosed.

 

27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

 

28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.

 

29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,

 

30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

 

31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

 

33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

 

34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

 

35 And when it was day, the magistrates sent the serjeants, saying, Let those men go.

 

36 And the keeper of the prison told this saying to Paul, The magistrates have sent to let you go: now therefore depart, and go in peace.

 

37 But Paul said unto them, They have beaten us openly uncondemned, being Romans, and have cast us into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily? nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out.

 

38 And the serjeants told these words unto the magistrates: and they feared, when they heard that they were Romans.

 

39 And they came and besought them, and broughtthem out, and desired them to depart out of the city.

 

40 And they went out of the prison, and entered intothe house of Lydia: and when they had seen the brethren, they comforted them, and departed.

 

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Rapture & Left Behind

John R. Houk

© May 29, 2012

 

Christ is King and He is coming for His own. Scripture leaves no doubt that there is a coming rapture of the saints in Christ. The mystery of Christ’s coming is it before the Great Tribulation (Pre-Trib), the middle of the Tribulation (Mid-Trib), after the Tribulation (Post-Trib), some sort of combination rapture (Pre and Mid or Pre, Mid and Post or Pre-Wrath Rapture) and is the Second Coming (Parousia) and Post-Trib the same thing. Or perhaps some other theological End Time scenario I am unaware of.

 

I tend to be in the rare crowd of Pre, Mid and Post-Trib. Meaning the faithful Righteous in Christ will be called up and raptured first. About Mid-Trib Christians that have endured half of the Tribulation and understood about the First Rapture and have disciplined themselves to be Righteous Saints will be raptured to avoid the worst part of the Tribulation. Then during the worst part of the Tribulation there will be people who will wake up and not join the heathens that curse God rather than call for Mercy and Believe in the death, burial and Resurrection of Christ will receive the solace of a Rapture before Christ returns with His army of Angels and Saints to whoop up on the curse God and believe on Satan’s lies army.

 

Yeah I know it is a very novice-like untheological presentation summation of the Last Days. Nonetheless, that is what I am sticking with until I discover a better picture of the Last Days. Take note it is something I am sticking to. I am not dogmatic about this because it is educated speculation. The point being educated or not it is still speculation.

 

The only absolute is that all who believe Christ died on the Cross, was Buried and arose on the third day bodily receiving His Divine Glory/Attributes again will be Saved/Delivered from the dark age rule of Satan via Redemption.

 

That being said here is an excellent Pre-Trib article by Terry James.

 

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Thief in the Night

 

A Thief in the Night Picture

 

By Terry James

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No scriptural proof-text in God’s Word more clearly points to the first of the two phases of Jesus Christ’s second coming than does the following: “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night” (1 Thess. 5:2).

 

We who hold to the pre-trib rapture viewpoint are often accused of being deceivers. We are condemned by our detractors as leading astray Christians alive now–if they live to see it–  who will be required to endure the tribulation, thus to wash their robes clean in preparation for inheriting God’s Kingdom. We are castigated for foisting upon innocent, gullible believers a “secret rapture” that will somehow lead these Christians to take the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:16-18).

 

I’m not precisely sure of their “reasoning,” but I think they claim this because they are convinced that the ones who fall for the rapture viewpoint won’t be able to recognize Antichrist when he comes to power. We who teach the pre-trib rapture, so the accusation goes, would have falsely led these people to think the Church would not be here when Antichrist is on the world scene.

 

Almost all who are antagonistic to the pre-trib rapture doctrine teach that the “elect” will have to endure part or all of the seven-year tribulation era. Those who hold to a post-tribulation rapture, or a no-rapture position, believe that Christ will come back at the end of the tribulation, at Armageddon. They hold to the notion that that is His only return in the second coming. There are other views of the second coming that have Christ returning when the earth is perfected and made ready, but we won’t go there in this essay.

 

Let us look at only the pre-trib rapture and the post-trib rapture positions for the purpose of exploring what is meant by the “thief in the night” references in 1 Thessalonians 5:2 and 2 Peter 3:10.

 

These two viewpoints–the pre-trib, and the post-trib–offer the greatest contrast to examine in consideration of the second advent of Jesus Christ, within the overall belief that rapture will, according to Bible prophecy, happen before Christ’s foot actually touches down on Planet Earth.

 

The pre-trib view of rapture says that Christ’s second coming is in two phases, separated by at least seven years. The post-trib rapture view says that the rapture and Christ’s coming back to the Mount of Olives will occur almost simultaneously–certainly with no more than a matter of days separating the two events. The post-trib position says there is no “secret” rapture. Christ’s coming again will be fully seen in the heavens by all, including Christians who will be watching for Him to break through the darkness of that hour.

 

We agree that the rapture of the Church (all born-again believers in Jesus Christ for salvation since the Church Age began at Pentecost will be anything but a “secret”. The world will instantly go into cataclysmic chaos at the moment that stunning event takes place. The imagination is hard-pressed to fathom the ramifications of what will happen when millions suddenly vanish. Every child below the age of accountability will be gone in that mind-boggling instant of time. All babies (including those in the wombs of their mothers) will be instantly in the presence of Christ in the clouds of glory. Every corpse of every dead Christian will be raised to join with his or her soul to meet Christ in the air in that atomos of time.

 

The rapture will be mystifying, and to some an inexplicable phenomenon, but it will not be a secret. It will happen before the eyes of a stupefied planet of left-behind earth-dwellers. This declaration that Jesus will call His Church to be with Him seems audacious to many. But, it didn’t seem so to the Apostle Paul. He was quite confident–even adamant—in his prophecy concerning the “mystery” he had been given by the Holy Spirit to instruct all believers down through the Age of Grace (Church Age).

 

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed” (1 Cor. 15:51-52).

 

He explains what will take place next, in that stupendous fraction of a second: “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord” (1 Thess. 4:15-17).

 

Jesus himself told of this “mystery” Paul refers to in 1 Corinthians 15:51. The Lord explains what happens after believers –both the bodies of the dead and those who are living– are caught up in the air to be with Him: “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also” (Jn. 14:1-3).

 

So, the rapture will take place. Believers and the bodies of those who died during the Church Age will be “caught up” in one single moment of time. “ALL,” not “some,” will go instantly to be with Jesus, who will then take them into heaven, where He has been preparing their dwelling places since He ascended from the Mount of Olives.

 

Again, the pre-trib position on this joyous event is that it is imminent (could happen at any moment), and will happen before the tribulation period begins. The post-trib position says that it happens at the end of the most terrible time in human history, just as Jesus Christ is returning from heaven at Armageddon.

 

The pre-trib view holds that it will occur at an unknown time. It will be a stunning, sudden, and unannounced-to-the-world-at-large break-in upon business as usual on Planet Earth. The post-trib proclaims that it will occur following all of the horrors of the judgments outlined in Revelation.

 

The pre-trib view says that the world at large (left-behind earth-dwellers) won’t see it coming. The rapture will cause all left on earth to wonder what has happened. The post-trib view says that all eyes will behold Christ’s coming again to a hellish planet, and the living and dead saints will then be gathered to Christ.

 

The defining thing to consider in thinking on the two diametrically different views of the rapture and second coming is wrapped up in the term “thief in the night”. The Apostle Peter again uses this mysterious term, first used by Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5:2: “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up” (2 Pet. 3:10).

 

Peter is saying here that the day of the Lord–that time when God and His Christ, His Son, takes over this fallen planet—will begin like a thief in the night. It will be a sudden, catastrophic break-in upon a world doing business as usual. (Read Luke 17:26-29 to understand how things will be going along as usual when Christ comes back.)

 

This description hardly fits the post-trib view, or any other view that says Christ will rapture His Church during a time of unprecedented trouble (Jer. 30:7; Matt. 24:21). This indicates that it will be a total surprise, because a thief in the night doesn’t announce his coming with great, cataclysmic fanfare. The break-in is swift, stealthy–a totally unexpected event.

 

Peter foretells in these passages that the “day of the Lord” will then run its course, until the remaking of the heavens and the earth. The rapture will begin this “day of the Lord,” which will then run at least 1,007 years.

 

This is the first phase of Christ’s second coming. The rapture occurs like a “thief in the night”. The second advent, when Jesus’ foot touches down on the Mount of Olives, is the second phase of His second coming.

 

There are those who say with vehemence that it is blasphemous to equate Christ’s coming again as being like the break-in of a thief in the night. How dare we liken their Lord to a “thief”!

 

Really? Here’s what Jesus, the Creator of all things, said about this matter:

 

“But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

 

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh” (Matt. 24:43-44).

 

Looks like a pretty good case for the Lord’s sudden intervention into the nefarious affairs of this increasingly wicked world, does it not? That thief-in-the-night moment could happen, literally, at any moment. Certainly, signals of the tribulation are beginning to come to pass.

 

“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh” (Lk. 21:28).

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Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post Trib – O My

John R. Houk

© May 29, 2012

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Thief in the Night

 

The Purpose For This (Rapture) Index

The Rapture Index has two functions: one is to factor together a number of related end time components into a cohesive indicator, and the other is to standardize those components to eliminate the wide variance that currently exists with prophecy reporting.

 

The Rapture Index is by no means meant to predict the rapture, however, the index is designed to measure the type of activity that could act as a precursor to the rapture.

 

You could say the Rapture index is a Dow Jones Industrial Average of end time activity, but I think it would be better if you viewed it as prophetic speedometer. The higher the number, the faster we’re moving towards the occurrence of pre-tribulation rapture.

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