Paul Sutliff assembles Leo Hohmann and retired General Paul Vallely to discuss national security issues beginning with the designs and incursions of the Chinese Communist Party globally. Heard as broadcast 4/8/21 on Global Patriot Radio on the Sutliffian Report. Then evolves into state of politics in the USA.
(Paul Sutliff has a speaking engagement promo website that provides some profile info HERE. And occasionally he posts on his blog Paul Sutliff on Civilization Jihad.)
JRH 4/9/21
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This week Leo Hohmann starts as co-Host of the Show with an Interview of General Paul Vallely. General Vallely on many issues from China building bases in Iran to why didn’t President Trump implement the Insurrection Act. This is one important interview you do not want to miss. After this we have Leo’s newest article, then the news.
A mass-shooting happens in Colorado followed by Dem-Marxists and their MSM propaganda machine blaming White Supremacist racism and guns. After you sift through the propaganda to discover the facts the SHOOTER is discovered to be a Dem-Marxist supporting, Trump hater and wait for it … an Anti-American Muslim.
Here are two (three including an insightful email from Paul Sutliff) cross posts exploring truth over propaganda disinformation aimed at robbing Americans of more of their Liberty.
JRH 3/25/21
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The following ten people perished in the recent shooting in Boulder, Colorado carried out by Ahmad Al-Issa. All of them appear to be white, but neither the media nor politicians have bothered to resurrect their anti-race-hate campaign that ensues when Black Lives Matter riot, or when Asians are murdered in Atlanta.
The victims include grocery store workers, local college graduates, medicare agents, a police officer, and an Orthodox Christian.
Today, The National Pulse calls on the political left and their media counterparts to stop the racial hatred they continue to perpetuate against white people, which doubtlessly led to these murders in Colorado.
Strong resided in Boulder, Colorado and had worked at the King Soopers grocery store since 2018. He described himself as a fan of planes, bikes, and motorcycles on social media and friends say he was training to be a pilot.
Olds worked at the King Soopers grocery store. She went to high school in Lafayette, Colorado, and attended Front Range Community College.
‘We lost our beloved Rikki Olds to the monster who shot up the king soopers in Boulder CO yesterday may his rotten a** fry and burn in hell,’ her aunt Lori Olds said.
Leiker had worked at the store targetted [sic] in the attack for three decades, and her friends revealed working at the store was her “favorite thing to do.”
Since 2019, Leiker was dating a colleague, Clint, who survived the shooting.
“She loved going to work and enjoyed everything about being there,” friends added.
The father of seven had served the Boulder Police Department since 2010.
“He loved his kids and his family more than anything,” said Talley’s father, Homer Talley.
“He was looking for a job to keep himself off of the front lines and was learning to be a drone operator. He didn’t want to put his family through something like this and he believed in Jesus Christ,” he added.
Mahoney’s daughter revealed that her father had been killed in the shooting with a photo of him walking her down the aisle for her wedding with the caption “I am heartbroken to announce that my Dad, my hero, Kevin Mahoney, was killed in the King Soopers shooting in my hometown of Boulder, CO.”
Murray had two children and was a retired New York City magazine photo director whose clients included Cosmopolitan, Marie Claire, and Glamour. She relocated to Colorado to raise her children.
Her family noted she was at the grocery store to fill an Instacart order at the time of the shooting.
“I just want her to be remembered as just as this amazing, amazing comet spending 62 years flying across the sky,” her husband John urged.
A graduate of Alameda West High School, Stanisic and his family “fled Bosnia 20 years ago for a better life in America,” according to leaders at Saint John the Baptist Serbian Orthodox Church in Lakewood.
“He was an amazing child,” said Ivana Petrovic, who along with her husband, Rev. Radovan Petrovic, have close ties with the family. “We’ve known the family ever since we became their spiritual father and mother here. He was a very good, shy, hardworking boy and one of those kiddos who listened to his parents the best.”
Stanisic’s Facebook showed him smiling with classmates and contained images of hand-drawn anime characters and the Assassin’s Creed video game series.
Raheem Kassam walks through the information the corporate media won’t tell you about Boulder terrorist Ahmad Al-Issa, and how the corporate media themselves contributed to his radicalization.
Oh, and you won’t believe what Barack Obama had to say about it.]
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The return of the American Jihadi
Colorado grocery store attack resumes pattern of jihad attacks rampant during Obama-Biden years
We grew numb to the almost constant gun and knife attacks conducted by young male adherents to the Islamic faith under the Obama-Biden administration from 2008 to 2016.
There was Fort Hood, Texas [13 dead 30 injured], Chattanooga Naval recruiting station [five dead], San Bernardino office Christmas party [14 dead], the Orlando Pulse Nightclub [49 dead], Ohio State University car and knife attack [one dead and 11 injured], the Crossroads Mall stabbing attack in St. Cloud, Minnesota [10 injured], the New York and New Jersey pipe bomb attacks [31 injured], the Boston Marathon attack that killed three and injured hundreds, and the list goes on with many more stabbings and shootings too numerous to list, all carried out by American jihadists.
Almost all of these jihadists were either born overseas or the sons of parents born overseas and allowed into this country with little to no vetting under LEGAL immigration programs.
Then along comes Trump and the jihadist attacks suddenly stopped.
I’m aware of only one jihad attack on American soil during Trump’s four years in office, and that was in December 2019 at the Pensacola, Florida, Naval Air Station [three killed].
Biden is in office two months and …. Here we go again. Brace yourself for the return of the jihadis.
Ahmad al-Issa, a native of Syria, entered a Kosher-friendly grocery store in Boulder, Colorado, on Monday where he shot and killed 10 people, all white Christians and Jews. Mr. Issa, 21, had reportedly pledged his allegiance to ISIS and had considered shooting up a Trump rally. He had also used his Facebook page, immediately taken down by the FBI of course, to rail against Trump’s travel ban on a handful of Muslim-majority countries.
Most mainstream media accounts of Monday’s attack ignore the fact that Issa is a Syrian migrant and fail to report that his attack is the first of its kind [mass murder of more than three Americans by a Muslimmigrant] in over four years.
This report from CBS is typical. According to CBS, Issa is just your average American white guy from Arvada, Colorado, and some of his friends say he may have had mental health issues. Nothing more to see here folks, just a local nut job, end of story, time for more gun control. That’s the narrative coming out of the Biden White House and supported by the state-sponsored mainstream media, which is looking more like Pravda every day.
I predict this will be the first of many jihadist attacks under the Biden regime.
Why?
Because we know the track record, the pattern, that was set during the eight years in which Biden and his boss Obama ran the country. Their weakness on the Islamic issue – no, it’s more than just weakness it’s the outright pandering to and favoring of Islam over all other religions – invites these types of attacks.
Trump showed strength on this issue and the killing stopped. The last thing the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the umbrella organization over almost all of the major Muslim groups in the U.S., wanted was to give Trump fodder to take stronger action against the Brotherhood’s vast network of operations in the U.S.
As documented in my book, Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad [Buy direct from Hohmann or Amazon], the Obama-Biden administration scrubbed all negative references to Islam from FBI and Homeland Security training manuals starting in 2011. Brilliant patriots inside the government who knew how to defend America against this menace – people like Phil Haney, John Guandolo and Steve Coughlin – were rooted out of the government.
This is a story you won’t find in any mainstream media. They want you to forget all of the American bodies that piled up as a result of jihadist attacks under Obama-Biden and their pandering to Islamic radicals.
President Trump, while he did a great job slowing the influx of refugees and other types of legal immigration from radicalized zones in the Middle East, did not finish the job he was elected to do.
Trump promised to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terrorist organization but got talked out of taking that key action by globalists in the U.S. State Department and within his own inner circle. His vice president, Mike Pence, no doubt had a say in that inaction.
If he had designated the Brotherhood a terror organization, Trump could have saved this country from the many new attacks that will now occur on U.S. soil for years to come. The Brotherhood is the head of the Islamic snake. It is the guiding force behind groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America and dozens of other similar groups.
Muslims per se are not the problem. It’s the Muslim Brotherhood-aligned groups along with their affiliated mosques that radicalize young Muslim men. Trump had a once in a lifetime opportunity to “cancel” those groups from American society but he gave them a pass.
Like his promoting of “Operation Warp Speed,” I believe Trump will regret that he did not take advantage of the opportunity to take out the Muslim Brotherhood and all of its affiliates.
He listened to the wrong people. That was a chronic Trump problem. He listened to folks like Pence and Jared Kushner.
The Muslim Brotherhood’s U.S. operation is based in Plainfield, Indiana, in Pence’s home state.
Pence showed his hand on the Islamic issue when he helped broker a deal with the Vatican and the Islamic world called the Abrahamic Faiths Initiative.
Pence is a man who should never be trusted again with any elected or appointed office. But I’m sure the deep state is not done with him. There will come a time when he again proves himself useful to this evil cabal.
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National Security and the Syrian Boulder, Colorado Shooter
Email from Paul Sutliff
Sent: Mar 23, 2021, 10:54 PM
Some people say they don’t want to hear about whether the shooter was from Syria or if he was Muslim. This is foolish and detrimental to OUR SAFETY. It is the foolishness of NOT caring about the WHY THIS IS HAPPENING that creates an open gate for more of these actions!
On top of this I just learned the shooter came from Syria AFTER I filed a FEDERAL AFFADAVIT as an EXPERT WITNESS to stop this from happening. National Security is not a part-time passion. I spent a few hundred hours working on my testimony. If more people like me stood up those 10 people would not be dead! Where is your Independent Fighting Spirit America? Why do we continue to allow this to happen over and over? LOOK AT THE IDEOLOGY! EXAMINE THEIR FAITH STRUCTURE!
This is what the Red Green Axis brings – Pain and death.
This jihadi is already being set-up by family members to take the European standard route of criminally insane. Lately most of the jihadis caught are labeled as nuts and given a free pass to repeat the crime. Watch to see Muslims claim they are the victims next.
Globalists, Statists, Dems and Communists are actively using this COVID-19 pandemic unleashed by ChiComs from Wuhan either irresponsibly or provocatively on the world which includes the USA; to actively control individual lives. Making COVID a threat to American Liberty.
With all the COVID government activity Americans should remember that the ideology inherent in Islam is inimical for all that is American, especially Liberty. An interview by Paul Sutliff with Joe Kaufman posted on 4/23/20 should remind us.
JRH 4/25/20
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Tonight we have Joe Kaufman of Joe Kaufman Security Initiative. Joe is an expert in the fields of national security, counter-terrorism and foreign affairs. He has been featured on all major cable networks, including Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC and C-SPAN. Kaufman has served as a consultant to different government agencies, and he has been instrumental in getting U.S.-based terrorist charities shut down and terror-related individuals put behind bars.
Tonight we are discussing two of kaufman’s recent articles, Florida Mosque Promotes Books Calling for Violence Against Jews and Why was Florida Convicted Palestinian Islamic Jihad Member Allowed into Israel?
The host Paul Sutliff is an author of three books related to Civilization Jihad. He is working on his next book The Cancer of Civilization Jihad.
If you are an American, what would you consider too young for a female to marry a male? The age limit for every State in the Union except Nebraska for consensual marriage is 18 years of age. In Nebraska the age of marital consent is 19.
Under the age of 18 (or 19 in Nebraska) marital permission MUST be attained and that attainment can vary from State to State. According to “State-By-State Legal Age Marriage Laws” by Sheri Stritof (updated info as of 10/15/19) on The Spruce website; parental permission is at least required (some State have additional hurdles) for youngsters aged 16 and 17 years old. If a teen gal 15 and younger in some States desires marriage, a Judge has to get involved. And in most of those judicial instances proof of pregnancy or birthing a child is required. Click the embedded link in the title if you want to read State-by-State details.
By now you should be asking yourself, “Why does this Blog Editor care?” OR ask yourself for that matter, “Why should I care about the legalities of underage marriage?” (Unless such circumstance have hit home for you, then better start somewhere exploring your options.)
In my case, underage marital legalities began my pondering after reading a post by Paul Sutliff at his Civilization Jihad blog where he writes about Islamic social norms pertaining to child-marriage. AND when I say “child-marriage” I mean a little child-girl marrying (usually by force or sale or both) an adult MUCH older male.
THINK OF THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR OR READ A MUSLIM WANTS SHARIAH LAW TO BE ENFORCEABLE IN THE USA!
JRH 3/1/20
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Is child marriage and forced marriage part of Islamist social norms?
On March 1, 2020 The News out of Pakistan published an article on child marriage in the country. In the article an 11 year old is basically sold to a man who is 60 years old. The young girl finds herself married and is soon violated and nearly dies from the encounter. The News reminds its readers that Child Marriage is illegal in Pakistan. The News also attests that Child Marriage is indeed a forced marriage in that children are not able to make adult decisions. The News also communicates the sad truth that Child Marriages laws are rarely enforced in Pakistan for a variety of reasons, among them a lack of birth records attesting to a female’s age.
Is there another reason for the lack of enforcement? Is Child Marriage and/or forced marriage an Islamic social norm?
Child marriage is endorsed by Islam because Muhammad married a girl at the age of 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9. Aisha herself is recorded as having stated she was 9 years old. This is in lunar years not solar years, so Aisha may have still been 8 solar years old. It is one thing to hear that Muhammad had sex with a child bride who was 9 lunar years old, but when you start to look at the evidence for it in the Hadiths you learn that it is Aisha herself who says she was 9 years old.
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim Book 16, Hadith 83)
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari 5134)
The fact that dolls were with Aisha tells that us she had not yet entered puberty. In Islamic culture, girls were allowed to play with dolls until they entered puberty. Girls Health.gov states that girls begin puberty between the age of 8 and 12. So it is entirely possible that she had entered puberty. But the fact that she was still playing with dolls calls this into question.
According to Bukhari, Muhammad exhorted his followers to marry young virgin girls as he did. The following hadith has Muhammad talking about playing with them.
Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah:
When I got married, Allah’s Messenger said to me, “What type of lady have you married?” I replied, “I have married a matron’ He said, “Why, don’t you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?” Jabir also said: Allah’s Messenger said, “Why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?’ (Sahih Bukhari Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 17)
Keep in mind that devote Muslims require more than the Quran in order to copy what Muhammad did. This imitation aspect of Islam is complete from the exact copying of the movements and words said in prayer to every aspect of his life.
Attempts to outlaw the behavior of marrying prepubescent girls and consummating the marriage have been tried in Islamic countries like Pakistan. In 2016, the country attempted to raise the minimum age for marrying to 16. “A representative from the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) had dubbed the amendment to the Child Marriage Restraint (Amendment) Bill 2014 as “anti-Islamic” and “blasphemous” during the committee meeting.”
Any Muslim male at least fifteen years of age and any Muslim female of the age of puberty or upwards and not suffering from any impediment under the provisions of this Code may contract marriage. A female is presumed to have attained puberty upon reaching the age of fifteen. (Art. 16.1)
This looks like marriage is something equally agreed to by both the male and female. However, that is not entirely true. It is also not true that a female must have started puberty. The Primer proposes two questions that address this.
CAN A FEMALE BELOW FIFTEEN YEARS OF AGE CONTRACT MARRIAGE?
Yes. The Shari’a District Court may, upon petition of a proper wali, order the solemnization of the marriage of a female who, though less than fifteen but not below twelve years of age, has attained puberty. (Art. 16.2)
IF ANY OF THE CONTRACTING PARTIES IS BELOW THE PRESCRIBED AGE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MARRIAGE?
Marriage through a wali by a minor below the prescribed age shall be regarded as betrothal. It may be annulled upon the petition of either party within four years after attaining the age of puberty, provided no voluntary cohabitation has taken place and the wali who contracted the marriage was other than the father or paternal grandfather. (Art. 16.3)
A Wali is a guardian. The male parent/guardian may arrange a marriage of a child bride after she is 12. It is stated that the bride may annul the marriage four years after, provided there has been no cohabitation.
In Reliance of the Traveller, which is shariah in English, we learn that marriage AND consummation of the marriage to prepubescent girls are permissible:
e10.3 When a woman who has been made love to performs the purificatory bath, and the male’s sperm afterwards leaves her vagina, then she must repeat the ghusl if two conditions exist:
(a) that she is not a child. but rather old enough to have sexual gratification (A: as it might otherwise be solely her husband’s sperm);
It must be said that Islamists have the only religion that defends child marriage. It is not the only culture to have child marriages. It is only a few years ago that Tennessee outlawed child marriage.
What about other forms of forced marriage? While doing research on this topic, on Google, the terms “forced marriage” and Islam were entered. The most prominent result took me to Discover-the-truth.com, where Kaleef K Karim had written a brief piece alleging that Islam requires consent of both the woman and the man. He began by giving a passage from the Quran 4:19, showing that women are considered property and can be inherited.
O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them – perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
But in this sense, women as property must consent to being married. This speaks of women, not child brides. Kaleef considers this strong enough evidence to state: “So the above passage from the Quran is crystal clear that men cannot inherit women against their will. This passage alone is enough evidence that Islam forbids it, but we will go further.” Sadly, Kaleef misses that this passages is specifically talking about inheritance, which basically equates women with property.
The next passage Kaleef offers is indeed troublesome.
Abu Hurairah narrated that:
The Prophet said: “A matron should not be given in marriage until she is consulted, and a virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission is sought, and her silence is her permission.” (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1107)
Equating silence with consent is problematic! What if the bride to be is scared for her life? What if she has been told if she says no, her family will be killed? But in Islam this is OK? Silence equals consent? It becomes twice as problematic when the Islamic marriage ceremony is looked at. Unlike, Judaism and Christianity, in Islam, consent is measured in a contract signed by four witnesses, two for the bride and two for the groom. If the bride is pressured to sign and the witnesses are provided by the groom, a forced marriage can occur easily. Remember here that silence of the bride to be is seen as consent. Kaleef did not address other passages which refer to marrying a slave. Slaves do not get choices.
‘If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (the captives) that your right hands possess. (Sahih Bukhari Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 2)
Narrated Abu Burda’s father:
Allah’s Messenger said, any man who has a slave girl whom he educates properly, teaches good manners, manumits and marries her, will get a double reward (Sahih Bukhari Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 20)
This allows Muslim men to take a captive woman as a slave and marry her. Of course, she must convert to Islam first. Historically, Islam has forced conversions through threats during conquests.
Muhammad himself presided over a marriage where the woman was given no chance to consent. In fact she offered her consent in marriage to Muhammad not to someone else!
Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d As-Sa`idi:
A woman came to Allah’s Messenger () and said, “O Allah’s Messenger ()! I have come to give you myself in marriage (without Mahr).” Allah’s Messenger () looked at her. He looked at her carefully and fixed his glance on her and then lowered his head. When the lady saw that he did not say anything, she sat down. A man from his companions got up and said, “O Allah’s Messenger ()! If you are not in need of her, then marry her to me.” The Prophet () said, “Have you got anything to offer?” The man said, “No, by Allah, O Allah’s Messenger ()!” The Prophet () said (to him), “Go to your family and see if you have something.” The man went and returned, saying, “No, by Allah, I have not found anything.” Allah’s Apostle said, “(Go again) and look for something, even if it is an iron ring.” He went again and returned, saying, “No, by Allah, O Allah’s Messenger ()! I could not find even an iron ring, but this is my Izar (waist sheet).” He had no rida. He added, “I give half of it to her.” Allah’s Messenger () said, “What will she do with your Izar? If you wear it, she will be naked, and if she wears it, you will be naked.” So that man sat down for a long while and then got up (to depart). When Allah’s Messenger () saw him going, he ordered that he be called back. When he came, the Prophet () said, “How much of the Qur’an do you know?” He said, “I know such Sura and such Sura,” counting them. The Prophet () said, “Do you know them by heart?” He replied, “Yes.” The Prophet () said, “Go, I marry her to you for that much of the Qur’an which you have.“ (Sahih al Bukhari Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 24)
If Muhammad required no consent in a marriage he performed how many Imam’s who are eager to copy him, will require consent? These passages explain some of the forced marriages that are now monthly making the news.
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Paul Sutliff has a BA in religion and Philosophy from Roberts Wesleyan College, a MSEd from Nazareth College of Rochester and is completing a post-grad certificate in Intelligence Analysis. Paul is an educator, a research writer and a radio talk show host. Paul says he is only an awakened Patriot to what is happening around him. Paul first started to look into the Muslim Brotherhood after the college where he earned his MSEd took $500,000 from the international Institute of Islamic Thought. It took only a short bit of research to realize that a former Catholic college had opened its doors to an enemy of the United States.
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I realize there are Muslims that have adopted Western norms particularly in Western nations. Nonetheless, unless a Westernized Muslim is willing to condemn Quranic, Hadith, Sira or Shariah practices that are contrary to Western Culture, Western norms and Western Laws (and from my perspective – U.S. Constitutional Law) those Muslims are underserving of the benefits of residing in the West.
Yeah I know – Multiculturalists who care little of the traditions the West has provided are beginning to experience their blood boiling. I live in America thus I am not Leftist Multicultural thought and speech laws – at least not subject for now. Americans keep voting American Constitutional Laws for American Courts.
JRH 2/17/20
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Female Genital Mutilation and Islamic Social Norms
On January 30th of this year, a 12-year-old girl in Egypt died as a result of her parents having Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) performed on her. Egypt has had a law outlawing the practice since 2008. The parents have been charged. This law was written to protect females because Islamic social norms permit and encourage this practice.
According to Ian Askew, World Health Organization Director for the Department of Reproductive Health and Research:
FGM describes all procedures that involve the partial or total removal of external genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons. It has no health benefits.
More than 200 million girls and women alive today are living with FGM and many are at risk of suffering the associated negative health consequences as a result.
These include death, severe bleeding and problems urinating. Longer-term consequences range from cysts and infections to complications in childbirth and increased risk of newborn deaths.
FGM is a grave violation of the human rights of girls and women.
Another term used for FGM is female circumcision. Some countries prefer the term FGC, as it is seen as “more neutral.” (The “C” being a reference to “cutting.”) This “more neutral” term allows their medical personnel to package FGM into the “birth package.” Ebony Ridell Bamber, the head of advocacy and policy at Orchid Project, a UK-based NGO working towards ending FGM, states that. “It really contributes to legitimizing and entrenching the practice even further.”
In Islam, legitimization comes when shariah, Islamic law, endorses and promotes a practice. Under shariah, female circumcision is required of Muslim females. This is documented in Reliance of the Traveller:
e4.3 Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. Bazr) of the clitoris (n: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert). (A: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.)”
Islamic scholars have been found using this piece to declare to non-Muslims that shariah does not agree with FGM, going so far as to claim it is unIslamic if carried out to the extreme and totally removing the clitoris:
Female circumcision, known pejoratively in its extreme form as female genital mutilation or cutting, is not prescribed in the Quran and there are no authentic prophetic traditions recommending the practice. The basis in Islamic law is that it is not permissible to cause bodily harm and any such practice of female circumcision proven to be harmful would be unlawful.
This is very deceptive. Let’s look at what the abbreviations mean in the above section of shariah:
A: … comment by Sheikh ‘Abd al-Wakil Durubi
Ar. Arabic
n: … remark by the translator
O: … excerpt from the commentary of Sheikh ‘Umar Barakat
Taking the commentary of the translator out, the passage now reads:
e4. 3 Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. Bazr) of the clitoris.
Many other hadiths also back up the obligation for FGM under Shariah. For example:
Jami` at-Tirmidhi Vol. 1 Book 1 #109
Aishah narrated that: the Prophet said: “When the circumcised meets the circumcised then Ghusl [full-body ritual purification] is required.”
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Said ibn al- Musayyab that Umar ibn al-Khattab and Uthman ibn Affan and A’isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, used to say, “When the circumcised part touches the circumcised part, ghusl is obligatory.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 6599, 6600
Abu Huraira: Allah’s Messenger said, “No child is born but has the Islamic Faith, but its parents turn it into a Jew or a Christian. It is as you help the animals give birth. Do you find among their offspring a mutilated one before you mutilate them yourself.”
To say that FGM only happens in third-world countries ignores the sad and sorry truth that several countries have passed laws forbidding this cruelty to their children. Egypt passed a law against FGM in 2008 and was amended in 2016. But by 2015, a “government survey discovered that 87% of Egyptian women and girls aged between 15 and 49 have been mutilated, or as the Egyptian government put it, “circumcised.”
February 6th was the International Day of Zero Tolerance for Female Genital Mutilation. This annual day of awareness was commemorated this year by the German news source DW.com’s article, “Female genital mutilation feels ‘like living in a dead body’ by Shadia Abdelmoneim, which describes how a midwife performed FGM on her without her consent after the birth of her third child in Sudan:
It led to a lengthy period of shock thereafter where she found it difficult to trust anybody, but Shadia also vividly recalls the moment she realized what had happened.
“I wanted to go to the toilet, but something wasn’t right. I couldn’t walk and was in considerable pain. When I saw what she had done, I was shocked. She’d cut everything open and then sewn it closed. I had no idea what to do.”
Shadia, already fighting against female genital mutilation and for women’s rights as an activist in Sudan, was in her mid 30s at the time. She started living in a constant state of fear for her three daughters; she could barely let them out of her sight.
“How could women do something like that to one another, how?” she asks, her eyes welling up with tears. “Being circumcised is like living in a dead body.”
Dr. Cornelia Strunz, who works at the Desert Flower Center, met Shadia when she came to the center for help, said Shadia needed surgery to help her live with this mutilation. According to Dr. Strunz, there are many possible problems that result from FGM.
Many women have problems emptying their bladder after FGM. Menstrual blood can’t drain properly. For some, sex becomes practically impossible. Women can also develop fistulas — connections between two body parts which should not exist at all in normal circumstances. One example would be a link between the vagina and rectum, leading to them passing stools through the vagina. Obviously, that’s not very easy to live with.
Social norms that allow for FGM conflict with several social norms of Western civilization. It denies a women’s rights to have control over her own body, as it is a requirement under shariah. It destroys a woman’s ability to enjoy partaking in sexual activity when the woman marries. This makes the act a duty and not a pleasure. The act itself violates the Hippocratic Oath “to do no harm.” In countries where FGM is banned, parents/guardians who have this done to their own daughters are denying the validity of laws made by men.
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Do Islamist have the same social rules (norms) as everyone else? Are their irreconcilable differences between those of Islamist social norms and the rest of the of the world? Today we look at Islamic Supremacy.
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Paul Sutliff had Cathy Hinners on his podcast Civilization Jihad Awareness. The topic of discussion was Nashville police officers receiving some sort of training from a Mosque reputed to disseminate Radical Islam to its attendees. In case you have been desensitized, Radical Islam = Islamic Terrorism.
I appreciate that Paul began the podcast by giving a bit of history on the Muslim Brotherhood’s document: An Explanatory Memorandum – On the General Strategic Goal for the Group In North America (5/22/1991). You can read that grand strategy to Islamize America on a PDF on the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT) website HERE. The IPT PDF begins with the Muslim Brotherhood’s original Arabic followed by the English translation which you’ll have to scroll down to read.
Central to the subject matter is the Islamic Center of Nashville (ICN). To understand how bad ICN is for America in general and Tennesseans in particular here is an excerpt from the Tennessee Star (which is interesting since the Tennessee press is usually Muslim-friendly) dated 11/20/17:
Former board members of the Islamic Center of Nashville (ICN), Awadh Binhazim and Kamel Daouk helped found the ICT; Binhazim served as Secretary of the Board and Daouk as Chairman.
Binhazim proselytized Islam in Nashville through his organization Olive Tree Educationwhich served as the dawa program for the ICN (which was recently visited by Metro Nashville students), with lectures and classes at Vanderbilt, Tennessee State University and presentations to local civic groups and law enforcement. Daouk served as the treasurer of Olive Tree.
According to a Politico article, the Olive Tree Education website listed several lectures by al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki.
In 2010, a video of Binhazim at a Vanderbilt student program recorded him saying that Islamic law mandates capital punishment for homosexuality and that “as a Muslim he does not have a choice of whether to accept or reject what Islam teaches.”
Binhazim’s bio posted on Vanderbilt’s website notes that Binhazim held a variety of roles at the ICN including as Vice-President and Secretary of the ICN Board and as Director of Public Relations for the mosque. The ICN Imam during Binhazim’s tenure was Abdulhakim ali Mohamed who served the mosque from 1999-2007 and partnered in Olive Tree Education. This Imam came to Nashville from the radical Brooklyn Al Farooq mosque which had a documented history of raising money for terrorists and is the same mosque attended by the “blind sheik” who was convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
For the past 4 years I have been speaking throughout the country and Tennessee on Islamic organizations present in our country. These groups, like the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) and the MSA (Muslim Student Association) have infiltrated every aspect of our society. They are also present in every state.
If you are in Tennessee and want to know more about who and where they are, contact me at **** [Blog Editor: I’m not going to be responsible for handing contact info. Go to LinkedIn if you feel the need to contact her.]
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Be sure to listen every Monday to the Michael Delgiorno Show on Nashville’s Supertalk 99.7 WTN at 1005 (CT) as we talk about everything Islamic.
Dailyrollcall.com was founded by Cathy Hinners, a retired police officer.
Dailyrollcall.com is a source for exposing the Islamists and their organizations throughout the country, with an emphasis on the State of Tennessee. Dailyrollcall has also expanded to include other retired law enforcement and military personnel to actively investigate tips on Islamic infiltration and indoctrination. Thanks to our supporters we will be able to purchase video equipment to be able to expose publicly what we find. All information is thoroughly vetted and all sources are confidential.
(July 26, 2019) Cathy Hinners, a former #lawenforcement officer now Training consultant questions the wisdom of training new police officers at a mosque in Nashville connected to the #MuslimBrotherhood and past #terrorist.
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Introducing Sutliff/Hinners Podcast on Probable Islamic Brainwashing in Nashville Police
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Paul Sutliff
Paul Sutliff has authored a few books related to Civilization Jihad as such you can find them on Amazon. From theSutliff Amazon Pageis a brief bio:
Paul Sutliff has a BA in religion and Philosophy from Roberts Wesleyan College, a MSEd from Nazareth College of Rochester and is completing a post-grad certificate in Intelligence Analysis. Paul is an educator, a research writer and a radio talkshow host. Paul says he is only an awakened Patriot to what is happening around him. Paul first started to look into the Muslim Brotherhood after the college where he earned his MSEd took $500,000 from the international Institute of Islamic Thought. It took only a short bit of research to realize that a former Catholic college had opened its doors to an enemy of the United States.
Paul Sutliff has an interesting discussion/interview with Dr. Stephen Kirby on his Civilization Jihad Awareness (Global Patriot Radio location) podcast on Blog Talk Radio last Thursday. Here’s the summary from the podcast location:
If you like Kirby’s info, he gives his website that explores Islam in relation to the West at https://islamseries.org/. If you are a Patriot weary of being called an Islamophobe when you tell people Islam is inherently contrary to the U. S. Constitution, this is an excellent podcast to arm yourself against the idiotic epithet of racism when exposing Islam in conversation.
The embed for the Sutliff-Kirby podcast is below the title. If the embed doesn’t take on one or both of the blog platforms I utilize, simply click on the title and the embedded link will take you directly to the podcast.
The Connecticut (CT) Mirror is caught spreading Islamic lies for a local Mosque to create the false picture of Islamophobic persecution. Paul Sutliff who also utilizes Act for America Connecticut exposes the false narrative promoted by Taqiyya specialist Dr. Reza Mansoor.
Dr. Reza Mansoor is not someone to trust when he talks to non-Muslims about what Muslims believe. Part of this is because he believes it in Islam’s best interest to deceive you, the non-Muslims about what Islam teaches on Jihad. This practice is part and parcel of practicing shariah and deceiving the non-believer.
This article provides no sources to stand behind Dr. Reza Mansoor’s statements on jihad. It ignores shariah which is cited in Reliance on the Traveller. An English translation of Arabic Umdat al-Salik. This book is recommended by the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT). I personally recommend to anyone who wants the truth on what jihad means to read o.9.0 Jihad. I also recommend reading the 1915 Fatwa given by the last official caliph. This fatwa was very clear on what jihad means and how it should be carried out. It speaks of three different levels of jihad, Heart, Word, and Action/Deed.
It is unethical in this country for a person claiming the title of professor to purposefully misinform the public in the area of his/her content. This is grounds for dismissal by professorial malfeasance.
In the same respect, articles and books exposing the recent lies of Dr. Mansoor on this topic were previously written in detail. “How Taqiyya Alters Islam’s Rules of War Defeating Jihadist Terrorism,” by Raymond Ibrahim was published in the Winter of 2010. This is among the best responses to this misinformation. Humorously, it was written 9 years ago.
My suggestion is for CT Mirror should remove the purposeful misinformation by Dr. Mansoor. Reliability of sources is key for any piece of journalism. Dr. Mansoor has shown himself not to be credible!
Jane Bate, of Connecticut ACT! for America also wrote a response:
I was very disappointed to read Vanessa de la Torre’s article, “At Muslim Sunday school, learning about Islam and correcting misconceptions.” This piece is full of ‘taqiyya,’ the obligatory deception of non-Muslims. An explanation of this phenomenon can be found in section r8.2 of the “Reliance of the Traveller“: r8.2 “Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory”.
In the article, we’re told the popular line that ‘jihad’ means a personal or spiritual struggle. Though it can mean that, and that sort of ‘jihad’ is considered the ‘greater jihad,’ nonetheless, approximately 98% of the times the word ‘jihad’ appears in Islamic doctrine, its meaning is military warfare. To describe it as a “personal struggle, then, is disingenuous.
And, of course, there’s the ubiquitous claim that Islam is the “religion of peace.” But how peaceful is a religion that mandates death for apostasy? (Section o8.1 of the Reliance) How about a religion that assigns no penalty to a Muslim who kills his children, grandchildren or non-Muslims? (Section o1.2 of the Reliance). Lastly, a thorough reading of the section of ‘jihad’ -military warfare against unbelievers – which begins with Section o9.0, will leave the reader with no doubts that this is no religion of peace.”
Paul Sutliff operates a podcast on BlogTalkRadio called Civilization Jihad Awareness. He recently sent an email to highlight a podcast with Andrew Jones discussing Islamization in ye old United Kingdom.
For those of us who like to embed audio or video, Paul placed the podcast on his Youtube channel and blog which has a similar name as the podcast: Paul Sutliff on Civilization Jihad. Along with the video is the transcript of the interview.
Pay attention. If Dem Party Multiculturalists get their way, the UK’s problems will be a forerunner to the USA’s problems.
JRH 12/21/18
So readers, I’ve been using a seven year old laptop to fulfill the old blogging habit. My lovely wife sprang for an upgrade. I’m a relatively small-time blogger but with a consistently growing readership despite some token censorship from the liberal-oriented blog and social platforms.
Your article for Jihad Watch was “UK from Appeasement to Collusion part 1, the Church of England.” I found it extremely important because the Church of England was one of the foundations of the Protestant Church. Over here they call it the Episcopal Church. I found it extremely important to think that this is happening in that particular church. I want the world to hear about this. With a problem of mass migration of Muslims which is also known as the hijra has come… how bad it is in the UK. Your article talks about a massive push to transform the UK after World War II. You mentioned that it never had a democratic mandate, what do you mean by that?
Andrew Jones
Well, mass immigration to the UK began after the 1945 later government leftwing party in Britain. That’s what’s called the nationality right in 1948. In this case, common wealth subjects, so that’s people who the respects as a British subject. And they have done residency in the UK, although this policy was later modified in the 1960s. So although the policy is debatable as the UK like America is a representative democracy, what a mean by no Democratic mandate is that this piece of very important legislation it wasn’t mentioned in the Labour Party manifesto for the 1945 election, so no one in the general population voted for it. From 1948 onwards, steady but digestible flow of immigration continued into the UK and there were many positive contributions to British life from this. But it began by Tony Blair, net migration tripled in 1998 and has continued at historic highs to the present date. So for example between 1998 and 2016, immigration has been between 400,000 and 650,000 per annum [year] with 43% of that being Muslim immigration.
Paul Sutliff
So that’s 400,000 to 650,000 per year?
Andrew Jones
Correct.
Paul Sutliff
Wow!
Andrew Jones
And 43% of that being Muslim immigration. So, what you have then is Blair’s government’s effectively stopped enforcing immigration law and arguably thereby becoming a criminal government. And the Conservative Party in subsequent governments, they’ve just continued that. Now, there’s a lot of speculation as to government motives for opening the floodgates for immigration like this, but according to Blair’s aid; a guy called Andrew Leather, it was done to quote, “Rugby Political Rights knows in diversity and render their arguments out of date.” So in other words, Blair was aiming to permanently transform the UK through mass immigration, deliberately swinging demographics in the left’s favor as immigrants and immigrant descendant communities, they overwhelmingly vote labor like Democrats in the United States. So, being extra-legal, this opening of the floodgates to mass immigration was again, it wasn’t put to the British public in any of labor’s election manifestos. This tremendous transformation of British culture has happened without anyone really being asked.
Paul Sutliff
It’s interesting how in different countries or on different continents, we’re having the same issues with leftists which are basically communists and how they’re trying to destroy our country’s governments by mass migration. I’m amazed. So, what’s been the impact on the UK of this mass migration?
Andrew Jones
Well, I think a lot of people would agree in Britain that there were many positives to the pre-Blair era immigration you know, you’re talking about as such a digestible level of diversity as it were. But since the Blair era, really the immigration has been too great an intensity to the British society to comfortably digest. Now, even a guy called Trevor Phillips now admits this, and he was Blair’s Equality and Human Rights Commissioner. So, he was someone who was at the center of the Labour Party’s project to diversify Britain and even he has admitted now it’s gone horribly wrong. Now, on a macro scale as you say like in America, the British and European political and business elites, it’s evident that they’ve developed a taste for mass immigration, an addiction even. This is true across most of the political spectrum so that the political left is to say mass immigration provides them with new voters and it’s ideologically is internationalist. So, it kind of breaks down the society, they’re sort of revolutionarily kind of set against. And for the center-right in America, you call them RINOs I believe, Republicans in name only; right?
Paul Sutliff
Yes, definitely.
Andrew Jones
Flooding the labor markets drives down labor costs and this in a way recreates the conditions of 19th-century capitalism at which are heavily in the boss’s favor. So the left and the center-right, they’ve aligned in what we now call globalism, and all of these vested political and corporate interests, they want mass immigration despite between 70-80% of public opinion across nations objecting to it, and plainly put, this is an attack on democracy. So where the UK now is with mass immigration, it’s a state of affairs where the native British are a minority in London; so 45% of the Capitals population is native British and native Brits are also likely now to be a minority in Birmingham, the UK’s second city. In the foreseeable future, Pew Research predicts the UK’s Muslim population in a medium migration scenario, it’s going to reach 16.7% by 2050 and that’s probably an underestimation. And Oxford University professor of demography; a gentleman called David Coleman, he’s calculated that nationally, the native British population will be a minority by 2066. So what you’ve got from this wave of mass immigration beginning after the war and then accelerating in 1990 under Tony Blair, it’s permanently transformed the UK, and what we now have is a kind of new cultural order emerging; it’s a phenomenal transformation.
Paul Sutliff
Wow! I’m just kind of —I don’t understand how a country can purposely move itself so much towards destruction. These statistics are just mind-numbing.
Andrew Jones
I think it’s the best of interest in the country which has pushed it in that direction, and I believe you have similar patterns in the United States.
Paul Sutliff
Not this drastic yet. Thank God for that. Andrew, you have an astounding statistic of an increase of Muslims through mass migration in the UK between 2001 and 2011; 75%. How are they integrating if at all, into English society?
Andrew Jones
Okay, lots of things going on here. The increase is due to a combination of high birth rates and mass immigration. So you have for example your typical middle-class British couple; they’ll be having you know one or two children at some point in their 30s. So that compares to an immigrant Muslim family, they will have maybe up to five children by the time they’re 30. So it’s a quick birth rate, and things change quickly demographically, people don’t really realize that they think it changes slowly, but it actually changes within the space of a couple of lifetimes. And maybe because of this combination of birth rates and mass integration, the Muslim population now constitutes around 6% of Britain’s total population; 12% of London’s population. This 75% increase statistic, is widely recognized, but I drew [took] it from the Muslim Council of Britain websites; the MCB they’re called. Now, they’re the supposedly moderate premier advocacy groups of British Muslims. The MCB, it was set up by Pakistani Islamists from a group called Jamaat-I-Islami, so essentially they are the Muslim Brotherhood.
Paul Sutliff
Yes, they are the Muslim Brotherhood, that’s exactly right.
Andrew Jones
Okay, so I would say one has to be a little bit careful about using the word “they” you know when we say “how are they integrating?” Because many British Muslims, they’re well integrated and they find the rise of extremism in their communities alarming. There’s a kind of almost like the silent moderate phenomenon, and it is particularly the case I think with the older generation of Muslim immigrants, many of whom came to the UK to participate in the British way of life. Now, the younger generation, however, they do seem to be more at risk of falling prey to extremism, and this is for a couple of reasons. There are the second and third generation identity issues which go with not entirely belonging to the old country, nor to the new country. So extremist ideology can move in on this insecurity and provide a ready-made sense of belonging and purpose as a family. And that alienation is added to by many of the more recent Muslim immigrants coming from highly “Shariasized” countries like Pakistan. Pakistan in the last 20-30 years, it’s Islamized, whereas the first generation of Muslim immigrants from Pakistan, they came from the kind of like the afterglow of the British Empire, so they had a dose of British culture in them before they arrived here, that’s not the case with the recent arrivals. And of course really as I’m sure your listeners know, and you know the great background problem globally is the rise of this purist extremist Islam which is funded by vast amounts of money from the Gulf states; these petrol dollars [oil money].
Paul Sutliff
And we have a lot of problems with that here with the Saudis funding a whole bunch of areas and Qatar funding things, especially that have to do with education. Can you outline some of the specifics on this lack of integration?
Andrew Jones
Okay, so the context in Britain that the second and third generation and the recent arrivals with Muslims finding something is one where between half and two-thirds of British mosques could reasonably be called extremists. You got figures like 45% of British mosques are Pakistani Deobandi sect. now, that’s the same sect of Islam followed by the Taliban. And I’ll just say that again, strap yourself in, but just under half of the mosques in the UK are the same sect as the Taliban.
Paul Sutliff
Wow!
Andrew Jones
Those figures are extraordinary. You add to that, all of the major Muslim advocacy groups, they are extremist run or linked. So we’re talking about the Muslim Council of Britain, the Muslim Association of Britain, the Islamic Society of Britain, Muslim engagements and development and the various Islamic charities. There is no government oversight or regulation of mosques, mosque schools or Islamic charities. So on an institutional level, Islam in the UK is predominantly anti integrationist and extremist-leaning. This upcoming generation of British Muslims, the people who are growing up now, they’re being heavily influenced by these organizations, so the problems are getting worse, and this is a problem the British government simply will not openly admit to.
Perhaps they won’t admit to it because of the rise of Islamic extremism and anti-integrationism is partly their fault. Successive governments have committed uncontrolled mass immigration which leads to the phenomenon of large immigrant enclaves that makes integration impossible. Recent governments, they’ve also failed to enforce the law with elements of the Muslim community so most glaringly and shamefully with the largely Muslim red gang epidemic. And government have also failed to aggressively pursue Jihadist living in the UK on the understanding that these terrorists, they fight back Jihad abroad and often in concert with British geopolitical interests like you know, using jihadist to topple Gaddafi in Libya for example. Now, a large part of this problematic appeasement is they’re all the major British political parties, they’re different shades of liberal. It’s the same liberal dish served with 3 slightly different sauces of appeasement. If you see what I mean. So in many ways, this liberalism is the root problem because the tendency of this liberalism is to tolerate and adapt “come-what-may,” and this creates the circumstances for Islamic extremism to thrive. So liberal tolerance which simply does not require integration of business Muslims, so why should they? Why shouldn’t they integrate?
Paul Sutliff
How is the UK adapting to this influx, this push of Muslims versus the Muslims adapting to their new homeland?
Andrew Jones
Okay, so the UK adapting to Islam versus Islam adapting to Britain. There is a tendency for the UK government not to require integration…. However, the UK is doing an awful lot of adaptation to Islam, and there are numerous examples of this. They’re pretty alarming, so this adaptation really is a sort of toleration. This is what’s driving nearly the Islamization of Britain. So let’s think of a few examples. Female Genital Mutilation [FGM] is a largely but not exclusively a Muslim practice.) This is wrong [upon women], and it’s seeing zero prosecutions since it was made illegal in Britain in 1985, with thousands of cases of female genital mutilation every year in Britain, as many as 1 a day, and there have been no prosecutions since it was made illegal in 1985. Staggering!
So you also have Halal sort of meat has been bulk bought by British schools and fed to unsuspecting non-Muslim children.
Jihadis returning to the UK after fighting in Syria, Iraq they’ve been allowed back into the country and many of them roam free without situational service monitoring.
Most importantly though, and this is the subject of a series of articles I am writing for Jihad Watch. All branches of the British states are being influenced by or infiltrated by extremist Muslim advocacy groups. Again, the root of the problem is the appeasing liberalism which dominates Britain’s culture. And the argument I’m making is that appeasement, it is mutating into collusion. Without wishing to be alarmist due to the UK’s radically altering demographics and the growing power of a Muslim voting bloc, politicians in Britain, they’re increasingly going along with the demands of Islamic activists. And the wider British population faces losing control of its political faith in the not-too-distant future. We’re seeing the Labour Party directly cleared with the extremist Muslim organization, for example, Muslim engagement. The Conservative Party is kind of in effectively playing catch-up. For example, by appointing a well-integrated Pakistani heritage Muslim Home Secretary; Sajid Javid, who in many ways he seems a good thing. But they’re chasing something, they’re chasing this rising voting block. Now, in the medium to long term, the UK by doing this is arguably adapting itself out of existence to the cultural entity and with this appeasement. It’s a growing problem and it’s going to come home to roost at some point I think.
Paul Sutliff
One of the things I noticed under President Obama’s rule here in the United States was a change in immigration policy. Until Obama, we had a requirement you had to assimilate into society. And you’re using terms like integrate and adapt which is what the U.S. immigration policy changed too. Can you give examples to the listeners of how that is happening in Europe?
Andrew Jones
It’s not being pushed that hard. I mean recently in Britain, there was a government drive to promote what’s called fundamental British values which are fundamentally liberal values and central to this was values like toleration and diversity which of course they are sort of shall we say adaptive, they’re accommodating and accepting, and there doesn’t really seem to be all that much assertion. You know, you can’t get much less assertive than not prosecuting for Female Genital Mutilation. So there you have a tangible instance of the almost complete lack of requirement to integrate. And so it’s a very reasonable perception, that Europe is kind of bending over backwards and not asserting anything of traditional European values or even traditional liberal values. Liberalism has you know…. Karl Popper pointed out, (the philosopher), that Liberalism is now sort of tolerating intolerance and it’s being destroyed in the process.
Paul Sutliff
Wow! I think it’s fascinating. You’re using the term FGM when we’re talking about this because we had a case in the United States recently where a judge decided that our law against Female Genital Mutilation is unconstitutional. It’s also interesting, that ties together with the Pakistani mosque, because the persons who were doing this, the persons who got caught were the Pakistani sect that you’re talking about. And I find that kind of blends together also. But I probably should go on ask the next question. I was amazed that no one in the UK government seems to be able to find a reason to shut the Muslim Council of prison Britain’s doors. When I read your reference to 2009 after former MCB Secretary General Dowd Abdullah assigned the Istanbul Declaration which calls for violence against UK Armed Forces. Would you please tell us about the Istanbul Declaration?
Andrew Jones
Okay, the Istanbul Declaration was a 2009 response by Muslim scholars and activists to the Israeli operation in Gaza at the time; Operation Cast Lead. British Naval Forces and allies of Israel participated in the sea blockade of Gaza, so stopping things going in and out of Gaza by sea route. This declaration said that there was quite “an obligation of the Islamic nation (the umma) to regard the sending of foreign warships into Muslim waters as a declaration of war; a new occupation, sinful aggression, and a clear violation of the sovereignty of the Muslim Nation (the umma). This must be rejected and fought by all means and ways.” That’s pretty clear. So as a result of this threat of violence, Gordon Brown’s government officially severed ties with the Muslim Council of Britain. But, the ties unofficially continue, and Theresa May has now renewed and strengthened these ties. We can see from this past attempts by the British government to assert itself, and the impulse to appease winning though, that a large growing politicized UK Muslim population is going to be influencing British foreign policy decisions in the years ahead. And sadly, the UK throwing Israel under the bus is something we’re going to see a lot more of.
Paul Sutliff
Wow! Any time I see a country that goes against Israel, I see its demise. But well, why has the UK government welcomed back these obvious extremists? I’m amazed that I mean, you’re hearing about all the Jihadis returning. Why are they welcoming them back?
Andrew Jones
Well I mean, the returning Jihadis is a slightly separate issue to the Muslim Council of Britain.
Paul Sutliff
I am sorry I mean welcoming back these extremists. Why would they welcome back the Muslim Brotherhood council into…? And I see it happened here under Obama, but you had a definite declaration of war against the UK which is kind of worse than we have. We have the Explanatory Memorandum which basically is a declaration of war, but for some reason, our representatives can’t see it.
Andrew Jones
Since the Istanbul Declaration, the Muslim Council of Britain, they’ve turned down their rhetoric. They have presented themselves with moderates, and that’s been part of its kind of worming its way back into government circles. So, they speak out against terrorism and of course, they consider the terrorism of Hamas as a legitimate resistance struggle. Now, that change of tone using, for instance, the moderate kind of mood music of interfaith dialogue and so on, that’s sweet music to the ears of the British government. The British government sees the Muslim Council as vital to have on board in his attempt to influence the Muslim community and to tamp down the potential for terrorism. So roughly speaking, the British government approach. It may well be something along the lines of, let the cultural Jihadists get what they want so the violent Jihadists won’t have a reason to attack us. As in the instance of refusing to grant a Pakistani Christian as Asia Bibi, asylum, that was done because the public order implications of her coming to Britain would have been significant. A large number of politicized British Muslims would have been out on the streets, and the government really doesn’t want that. So they didn’t grant her asylum. Which was morally and utterly reprehensible. But this is the situation that the British government faces. In a way, they’re being hobbled into going along with this stuff because implications of serious trouble are really quite significant. So if this is what the British government is up to, that’s in line with this Salafist idea of the aqd Aman, and this is what’s known as a “covenant of security.” So this is an Islamic extremist principle of not attacking non-Muslim countries which provide Muslims with security. Now, that may well be the loophole that the British government is trying to kind of wriggle through, but it’s a snare. It’s a snare which will tighten because it entails creeping Islamization.
Then you know, further down the line there’s the endgame of the Islamists. So given that the Muslim Brotherhood strategy is to infiltrate and embed itself in a non-Muslim society, slowly gain strength then finally use violence when necessary, and non-Muslim government abiding by this covenant ultimately faces either conflicts or total submission; there’s no positive outcome. So the Muslim Council of Britain which has well documented Brotherhood links, it seems to be very effective playing the British government along these lines, snaring it into collusion. But the basic British government’s objective is to try to in some way defuse the situation. And as part of this attempt to defuse the situation. They are trying to get the Muslim Council of Britain on board, but that’s a dangerous game to be playing.
Paul Sutliff
Wow! it’s definitely a dangerous game. What you’re talking about, it seems not so far in the future here — which is scary. This is the stuff I’ve been writing about and warning about, but it’s scary to think that some of this stuff is already that far ahead in the UK. You talk about your government knowing it is dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood; in fact, you state that Prime Minister Theresa May knows exactly who she’s dealing with because of the Jenkins report. Could you share with the listeners what this is?
Andrew Jones
The Jenkin’s Report was done in 2014. It was ordered by David Cameron’s government at the time, which is of course also known as the Muslim Brotherhood review. So John Jenkins; he was the British ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and the Saudis are currently not keen on the Brotherhood. So maybe that won’t be worse. The review was commissioned by Cameron to establish the precise nature of the Muslim Brotherhood subversive activities in the UK and how they facilitate the growth of extremism and terrorism. So basically it was an examination of what are these people up to, what are they doing? And the review; there’s access to an abridged and censored version of the reviews available online. But the review was and it remains largely censored, and it was countered by another branch of the British government; the Foreign Affairs Select Committee. And they wanted a more favorable view of the Brotherhood. Now, we can only speculate as to why that might have been, but the Foreign Office has Arabist leanings which dates back to the first world war and Lawrence of Arabia, and obviously that the British government has a lot of dealings with the Gulf states. So who knows what’s really going on behind the scenes, but something definitely went on. Now, Theresa May was Home Secretary at the time of the review, therefore she would have had access to it, she knows contents. And that means that she knows the true nature of Islamic activism in the UK, but she has strengthened and deepened ties with the Muslim Council nonetheless. Make of that what you will.
Paul Sutliff
And that is surprising. Here, the biggest issue we deal with is a group called CAIR, and for a while, they were banned, but now I mean they’ve really strengthened their ties, they solidified everything back with the federal government under Obama, but things are bad.
Andrew Jones
It is possible that the British government maybe seeing Trump as a kind of an unfortunate blip, and they are continuing with effectively the Obama doctrine which is to try to kind of share of the nonviolent extremists and get them on board, and separate out the violent extremists from the non-violent. And therefore and trying to take the wind out of the sails of the violent extremists.
Paul Sutliff
It gives them both what they want which is Islamization. That’s the sad part of it that they both want the same thing; they both want to transform the country into a Muslim country. Whether it’s here or there, they have the same goals — the violent and the nonviolent, and that’s the sad thing they don’t see it. Andrew, you called it.
Andrew Jones
Maybe they do see it and its short-term political expediency. Because what you’re talking about is the closing up of liberal governments to the non-violent extremists in the kind of, it is kicking the can of the problem down the line, so it becomes appeasement.
Paul Sutliff
That’s a good way to put it, because politicians, they basically only think of the immediate future, they don’t think long-term because they think about what effects their vote towards re-election….
Andrew Jones
I think it’s the election cycle.
Paul Sutliff
Yes, that is the sad truth. You talk about crossing the line from appeasement to collusion; what do you mean by this?
Andrew Jones
What I mean is that at certain points, during what the police says, in other words, appeasement, it can mutate into becoming basically the bully’s sidekick which is collusion.
Now, the situation the British government faces is that Islamic activists have promulgated this victim narrative among British Muslims you know, the specter of so-called Islamophobia. This victim narrative, it has the threatened violence coded into it, because Muslims are the victims; that discrimination and persecution, then if pushed they will be justified in using violence to counter their supposed depression. So something is being set up there to be activated as and when needed.
Now, it’s not easy, especially for the overly tolerant Western liberal to make a stand against the bully who’s pretending to be a victim. So the easy path is to give the Islamic activists what they want, and that is appeasement; diffuses a very uncomfortable confrontation in which the British government or any government for that matter would undoubtedly be cast as the prosecutor of Muslims, and the mainstream media would pile in on that. Now, that short-term pseudo-solution of appeasement. It of course, sets up bigger long-term problems. And one long-term problem is that if unchecked, appeasement becomes collusion. Dealing if the bully says to appease, is a hair’s breadth away from being on the police side, being a sidekick.
As a bit of an abstract, so to give you a tangible example, the entire Western European political and media leads are currently crossing that line, and the Charlie Hebdo massacre was perhaps the point at which that began. After that attack, the global liberal media collectively came into the Islamic injunction not to depict Muhammad. Look what they dressed up this cowardice and tolerance, a lot of appeasement due to the threats of violence. But not depicting Muhammad is not simply appeasement. It’s simultaneously sharia-compliant. So the global liberal media with checkmated into colluding with the Islamization of the west, and politicians are falling into this same trap.
Paul Sutliff
Well, the first thing that shocked me in your article Andrew on the Church of England was this willingness of an archbishop which is the head of the Church of England underneath the Queen, to enter into interfaith discussions with Jihadi type Muslims; you call them the extremists. What made me stop and take notice was your statement a former Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams advocated the absorption of aspects of Sharia law into the UK legislation. This is beyond my ability to comprehend; I don’t get this. Can you tell our listeners a little bit more about this?
Andrew Jones
Okay, I don’t see the former archbishop as doing anything that’s any different from the rest of Britain’s liberal elite. He seems to be sticking his head in the sand along with the rest of them. I mean, he might hope that as fellow theists in the Abrahamic tradition, Muslims might get on board and integrate if their religious needs are catered for. For instance, by the official sanctioning of Sharia Courts or intra-communal Muslim issues like divorce and so on. And he might also hope that the most moderate version of Islam is going to eventually prevail in Britain and if Britain is accommodating enough. As you point out though, these hopes though, ignore the facts, and therefore seem to be nationalizations underpinned by fear and the fear may well be that Islam wouldn’t do that and that Britain, therefore, has an insoluble problem on his hands. I can’t believe that a highly intelligent man like Roy Williams doesn’t see this. So his statement is perhaps a blend of wishful thinking and psychological denial.
Paul Sutliff
I was also shocked by Archbishop Williams’ willingness to somehow remain ignorant. Like you’re saying, it might be denial but he’s excusing willful connections of the ISB to terrorists influencers. Influencers such as Sayid Qutb, what do you think of this type of collusion with an enemy organization by a leader of the Church of England? Does it say to you and others that the head of the C of E is not a Christian?
Andrew Jones
The Islamic Society of Britain and they kind of dress themselves up as progressive, but they are influenced by this extremist strain within Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood people like Qutb and for example the ISB; as a member of the Islamic society in Britain. It has a relationship counseling service. But when you look closely, the relationship counseling service is really a kind of rebranded Sharia Court. That’s the game that they are playing. Now, I don’t see it as my place to comment on the quality of an individual’s Christian faith. However, I can see that Christian teachings could be mistakenly miss applied to justify appeasement you know turning the other cheek so on. But to reiterate though, I see Archbishop Williams and will be and almost the entire Britain principle and media elite and being gripped by a combination of fear, denial and this is liberal grid thing. This generation of liberals has taken the UK in a fairly dangerous direction and they now appear to be paddling hard to pretend the dangers aren’t there. Now due to this downward pressure coming from the elite. Islam has been great unmentionable in the UK and perhaps for a good reason. Because holing out the lies that are being spun. This month said emotion is something catastrophic you know, public order problems, and it’s no understatement to suggest that the possibility of serious civil unrest is at the forefront of the government’s considerations. They’re trying to avoid that I think at all costs really.
Paul Sutliff
Can you elaborate on that?
Andrew Jones
Okay, just imagine this is a hypothetical scenario now. Imagine if the UK government and the media; they one day you suddenly stop lying about the extent to many conspirators in the UK. They begin telling the truth about the Muslim Council of Britain, the other advocacy groups and when he talks in a huge number of business mosques. I mean really go to town on that and then make moves to counter it. So this is our hypothetical scenario. All of a sudden, that happens. Now, even if the government of a gradual “salami slice,” or “toothpaste” achieve approach and a slowly cutting away or squeezing out the extremists. The government would set up for themselves the following. They would have to arrest and probably intern without trial. They took in human rights legislation there. That’s thousands of jihadists. So in the UK, there are 3,000 or so jihadists on the immediate terror watch list…. and then being arrested, the government would then have a situation where the further 20 to 30,0000 potential jihadis in the UK which security services are aware 20-30,000 persons of interest out there, potential jihadis. These people with a crackdown being activated; they will be radicalized by that. They would kind of start to begin an interaction as it were. You add to that mix a combat-hardened call or a few hundred Isis and Al-Nusra front fighters, they’ve returned under tension in Syria in Iraq. Then you’ve got up two-thirds of mosques and madrassas and mosques schools. They would be aligned for closure with many extremist Imams needing to be deported. So you know human rights legislation would be shredded in this kind of scenario. And all of that simply could not be done within the existing liberal paradigm. In this hypothetical crackdown as the government moves against extremists, the victim narrative that the Muslim activists have been cultivating in Muslim communities for years. That will be on top and then violent resistance would then be justified and sooner or later, the call to jihad would rise up. Now the doomsday scenario will then be that all responses travel to the UK to “defend the 6 million Muslims.” Just as with any other conflict involving Muslims since the Afghan war against Soviet in the ‘80s. Internationally, all Muslim nations were objects to this “persecution.” In the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, they would use the enormous economic and media leverage they have in the UK to force submission. So the British government is in a tight spot and it would find out just how tight a spot is. Again, they tried to push back against Islamic extremism. It’s so depleted now. There are so many potential jihadists in the country 20-30,000 that the government if they try and do something about it, they would find themselves in a very difficult situation.
Paul Sutliff
Wow, that is as we say here in America, “putting yourself between a rock and a hard place.” It’s still putting off till tomorrow what we have to deal with today, but that’s a tough situation. What do you think the implications are for the UK when the Church of England is an advocate for the enemies of the UK? It even goes so far as to hide the enemy status according to your article. Does the UK have a chance to survive if this continues?
Andrew Jones
As things stand, if the UK continues on its present course of appeasement, it’s long-term future seems likely to be or will be very bleak indeed. Culturally and politically, it will be a slow death. As I just outlined though, the poisonous metal of Islamic extremism is grasped in the short-mid-term known as the potential for this doomsday scenario. So frankly the British government is over a barrel either way and then like I said earlier, the tendency of politicians is to focus on short-term and the election cycle and to not let “sleeping dogs lie.” So the general tendency is really to allow the problems to mount up to the long-term and that’s going to be bleak. Where the UK is now advocating for the enemy as you say in the guise of liberal tolerance, this is near ubiquitous across British public life and that’s really the theme of the series of articles on Jihad Watch. Limited opposition to this normalization, this appeasement moving into collusion. The limited opposition that there is from activists or from the non-mainstream political parties, the fringe parties like the United Kingdom Independence Party known as UK. That’s widely smeared but supposedly far-right and there’s the strange almost totalitarian atmosphere in Britain where people implicitly understand that they should not talk about Islam. Don’t go there. Don’t talk about it. Don’t mention it. Now that unspoken is a vacuum and the Islamic extremists are drawn into that vacuum. They depend upon it and they capitalize on it. They have in a sense created a “no go zone” in the minds of Western liberals. And from there, they will continue to push out and take more ground.
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BA Religion and Philosophy from Roberts Wesleyan College, MSED from Nazareth College of Rochester, and a Graduate Certificate in Intelligence Analysis from Henley-Putnam School of Strategic Security at North American University.
