Answering Ren Time’s Defense of Homosexuality


John R. Houk

© May 22, 2018

 

I moderate all comments on my SlantRight 2.0 blog. Unfortunately I don’t always get to them in a timely manner. I approved a comment to the post “If your school allows ‘Day of Silence’, keep your child home this Friday”. The post was a cross post of an AFA announcement that LGBTQ proponents were pushing Public Schools to have a Day of Silence to honor the homosexual movement in America on or around April 27, 2018.

 

Needless to say, I was not pleased that homosexual activists are using the same Public Schools to promote the godless homosexual lifestyle that Christians were told could not pray because Judicial Activism used Thomas Jefferson’s wording in a letter that does NOT appear in the Constitution, to exclude all things Christian from taxpayer supported activities.

 

The Courts is how all things Left-Wing have corrupted all thing moral in the United States of America.

 

I received a comment from a person who indicated he was a proud member of the Lutheran Church. God have mercy on the Lutheran Church if they promote homosexuality of the express condemnation of the practice in the Word of God.

The depravity of a LGBTQ kind-of-Community around Sodom and Gomorrah in Abraham’s day:

 

19 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.”

 

And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.”

But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

 

Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house.

 

10 But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

 

12 Then the men said to Lot, “Have you anyone else here? Son-in-law, your sons, your daughters, and whomever you have in the city—take them out of this place! 13 For we will destroy this place, because the outcry against them has grown great before the face of the Lord, and the Lord has sent us to destroy it.” (Genesis 19: 1-4, 10-13 NKJV)

 

And here:

 

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (Leviticus 18: 22 NKJV)

 

And here:

 

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who [a]suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

 

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their [a]women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the [b]men, leaving the natural use of the [c]woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (Romans 1: 18, 26-27 NKJV)

 

Friends this is only a Bible sampling showing homosexuality is not the Creator’s plan for life. No matter how Liberal Christian Churches twist the real meaning of God’s Word or even deny God’s Word by shoving it into the realm of archaic irrelevance, the actual meaning is true, good and righteous.

 

Below is the unedited comment made by Ren Time followed by my answer.

 

Ren Time May 17, 2018 at 10:00 AM

 

where in the Bible does it say that LGBTQ+ is not welcome. I’m Honestly wondering why so many people are against LGBTQ+. The bible does say to “Love thy Neighbor as yourself” Mark 12:31. So why are you against this?

~ A Memeber of The Lutheran Church

 

Hmm… Let’s look at the first sentence:

 

where in the Bible does it say that LGBTQ+ is not welcome.”

 

Let’s be CLEAR what LGBTQ+ represents:

 

LGBTQ+ is an acronym for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer/Questioning, and others. (LGBTQ+ Terminology; University of Central FloridaSocial Justice and AdvocacyStudent Development and Enrollment Services)

 

In order to not be accused too much for source bigotry, note the above quote is from a university that is fully supportive of the homosexual lifestyle as a natural act as opposed to an unnatural act. You can go to the above pdf for the pro-gay terminology, but I am going to use other sources either neutral or pro-Biblical.

 

(L)esbian:

 

a woman who is sexually attracted to other women :a female homosexual (Merriam-Webster Learner’s Dictionary)

 

… where did the term “lesbians” come from. For starters, it did not come from the Bible. It is believed the term came from the reference to residents living on the island of Lesbos. This island, the third largest one in the Aegean Sea, was home in the early 7th century B.C. to a female poet named Sappho. She was known for writing about her passionate relationships with other females. (What does the Bible say about LESBIANS?BibleStudy.org)

 

(G)ay:

 

  1. of, relating to, or exhibiting sexual desire or behavior directedtoward a person or persons of one’s own sex; homosexual: a gay couple.

 

  1. of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.

 

  1. Slang: Often Disparaging and Offensive. awkward, stupid, or bad; lame: This game is boring and really, really gay. (Dictionary.com)

 

It should first be noted that the KJV Bible does not use the word gay in its text. The word itself comes from the Middle English word “gai” which came into existence around 1275 to 1325 A.D. (dictionary.com). It originally meant something that was fast, sudden, merry or showy. The use of the word gay as a synonym for a homosexual began sometime around the late 1930s and 40s. (What does the Bible say about being Gay?BibleStudy.org)

 

(B)isexual:

 

Sexually attracted not exclusively to people of one particular gender; attracted to both men and women. (OxfordDictionaries.org)

 

Though the Bible does not directly speak about bisexuality, it frequently addresses issues related to sexual ethics. A look at some of these principles offers clarity regarding God’s view of the practice of bisexuality.

 

First, sexual relationships were created by God to take place within the context of marriage between a man and a woman. Genesis 2:24 teaches, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” Though the Bible records other forms of relationships, it only specifically presents one man and one woman enjoying sexual relations within marriage as God’s design.

 

Second, since bisexuality includes sexual relationships outside of marriage, it is also excluded as a form of sexual immorality. First Corinthians 6:18 clearly teaches, “Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.”

 

Third, bisexuality is also excluded from Christian practice since it includes same sex relationships that are prohibited in the Bible. In the Old Testament, same sex activity was called an abomination (Leviticus 18:22). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks directly of marriage (and sexual relations) between one man and one woman in marriage (Matthew 19). The apostle Paul mentioned that some of the believers in Corinth had been involved in same sex relations before becoming believers, saying, “And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11). Same sex activity is clearly excluded from the lifestyle of those who follow Christ. This would certainly also include bisexual relations. (Does the Bible say anything about bisexuality? Is being bisexual a sin?CompellingTruth.org)

 

(T)rans or Transgender:

 

used to describe someone who feels that they are not the same gender (= sex) as the one they had or were said to have at birth (Cambridge Dictionary)

 

Someone who is transgender has a gender identity which does not fully correspond to the sex assigned to them at birth. (CollinsDictionary.com)

 

 

The biggest claim of the transgender movement is that a man who thinks he’s a woman can really be a woman, and vice versa. You see this in many ways — from preferred pronouns, sex reassignment surgeries, and demands to use the restroom of perceived rather than given gender.

 

The problem is that this is a philosophical claim that is not true, and can never be true, in any way or form. A man’s chromosomes cannot be engineered into female chromosomes. Altering one’s appearance cosmetically or surgically cannot change the underlying reality of a person’s biological make-up. The psychology of the mind cannot override the facts of a person’s biological markers. The transgender revolution demands that we believe falsehoods about human nature. And truth and falsehood have never been a matter of majority vote, because we know that there is a Creator who has the authority to decide and state what is right and wrong.

 

… (5 Things Every Christian Must Know About the Transgender Debate; By Andrew T. Walker; TheGoodBook.com; 7/28/17)

 

(Q)Queer/Questioning:

 

Dictionary.com has 12 definitions for “Queer.” The definitions are divided between adjective, noun, verb and the slang of those grammatical divisions. Under adjective, there are four definitions of “queer” that were normal before the homosexual lifestyle appropriated the term. My focus is what dictionary.com calls slang –

 

5. [Adjective] Slang.

a. Usually Disparaging and Offensive. (of a person) gay or lesbian.

b. noting or relating to a sexual orientation or gender identity that falls outside the heterosexual mainstream or the gender binary: queer subcultures.

 

10. [noun] Slang.

a. Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to a a person who is gay or lesbian.

b. a person whose sexual orientation or gender identity falls outside the heterosexual mainstream or the gender binary.

 

Merriam-Webster.com:

 

2. d. often disparaging + offensive

 

(1) : sexually attracted to members of the same sex : homosexualgay

(2) : of, relating to, or used by homosexuals : gay 4b

 

“(Q)ueer/Questioning” is a bit difficult to locate via a Biblical perspective. Search engines typically go the homosexual issue when looking for a Biblical perspective of the term. Hence, I’ll use the definitions from the pro-homosexual “LGBTQ+ Terminology”:

 

Queer

 

  1. An umbrella term for the LGBTQ+ community (ex: the queer community).

 

  1. A sexual orientation that is intentionally left vague. Many people identify as queer because they feel that no other sexuality term applies to them. People who identify as queer might also do so for political reasons: to specifically and publically [sic] reject society’s prevailing view of sexuality. Some people experience “queer” as a slur, so use this term with care.

 

Questioning-

 

Being unsure of your gender identity, being unsure of your sexual orientation, or both. Many people go through a stage of questioning during their lives, sometimes several times. This can be because they learn new words that fit them better, or it can be that their actual feelings of gender or attraction change over time.

 

Evidently the homosexual community keeps adding initials to their acronym as indicated by the last character “+”.The “LGBTQ+ Terminology” pdf translates the “+” as “and others”. Unfortunately, the “and others” is not addressed in the terminology pdf. There are plenty of terms however that a Biblical Christian more than likely have an unfamiliarity.

 

The Urban Dictionary defines “+” as “  meaning other sexualitys such as pansexual, asexual and omnisexual extra.”

 

Pansexuality according to Merriam-Webster:

 

1: of, relating to, or characterized by sexual desire or attraction that is not limited to people of a particular gender identity or sexual orientation

 

  • Pansexualpeople are attracted to all kinds of people, regardless of their gender, sex or presentation. —Farhana Khan

 

Also: not solely homosexual or heterosexual

 

  • The famous 0-6 scale … was devised to chart sexual proclivities, from purely heterosexual (0) to purely homosexual (6). Kinsey felt humans are pansexual(most falling somewhere between 0 and 6), and restrictions imposed by society and religion lead to sexual maladjustments. —Lisa C. Hickman

 

2: tending to suffuse all experience and conduct with erotic feeling

 

  • Although Whitman’s impulses were homoerotic, he was pansexual in the sense that he could find the driving force of something such as sex in almost everything …  —Peter Craven

 

— pansexual noun

 

  • pansexualis someone who can be attracted to males, females, transgender people and those who identify as non-binary (not female or male). —Mel Evans

 

Evidently “pansexual” and “omnisexual” are similar yet distinct. Check out this explanation from Affinity Magazine:

 

Throughout pride month I saw the terms pansexual and omnisexual being used interchangeably. However, they are not synonyms of each other (thus being why they each have their own day during pride month); there is a big difference between the two that needs to be acknowledged.

 

 

Both pansexual and omnisexual are rather new words in relation to labeling sexualities, but both stem from different languages. The prefix pan- comes from the Greek word ‘pan’ meaning all, while the prefix omni- comes from the Latin word ‘omni’, which also means all. But despite the fact that both of the terms contain a prefix meaning ‘all’, there is still a key difference between the two.

 

The key difference being the fact that pansexuality is the attraction to people regardless of gender, meaning that they could date a man, a woman, someone identifying as non-binary or anyone else without said person’s gender playing a part in whether they date them or have the capacity to love them. Whereas omnisexual is the attraction to anyone despite their gender, meaning they could also date a man, a woman, someone identifying as non-binary or anyone else, while noticing their gender but not caring how they identify. (What Is The Difference Between Pansexuality And Omnisexuality? By PIPPA LACEY; Affinity Magazine; 7/11/17)

 

WHAT in the godless world are these guys trying to justify as natural!!!????

 

These explanations are NOT natural. They are not only unnatural; these explanations literally demonstrate what rebellion against the Creator looks like.

 

So Ren Time (I’d be surprised if this is not a pseudonym), one may not find “LGBTQ+” in the Bible, But those descriptions are definitely written off as ungodly counter-Creator separating from the Presence of God practices.

 

The next question by Ren Time is a bit perplexing to Christians that are fully aware that homosexuality is ungodly but and versed well enough in the Word of God to respond with firm compassion. Ren Time then asks, “The bible does say to “Love thy Neighbor as yourself” Mark 12:31. So why are you against this?

 

In rightly discerning God’s Word, one should discover that under the New Covenant established by the Blood of Jesus in the torturous whipping and Crucifixion of Jesus the price was paid for humanity’s inherited sin bequeathed by Adam by believing Satan in Eden rather obeying God pertaining to the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

 

Christians should love the godly and the ungodly alike. BUT, Christians should NOT support the practices of sin that separates humanity from God’s Presence. That means Christians should freely condemn sin without being the Judge/Executioner of sin. Redemption is about Forgiveness of sin, Acceptance of contrition for sin and Restoration to the Presence of God.

 

This is when such oft used phrases as “Hate the sin and not Sinner” should mean something. It is the place of Christians to use acts of violence against the sinners that practice the various forms of homosexuality especially after the law of the land has legalized the godless practice.

 

The duty of a Christian is to pray for the ungodly just as Jesus did even right from the Cross before spirit left His body:

 

Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

 

And they divided His garments and cast lots. (Luke 23: 34 NKJV)

 

Jesus the Son of God and the son of Man via Mary, even after humanity reared its undeserving head in the death of the Christ on the Cross. For this context take the time to read: Matthew 27: 32-44; Mark 15: 25-32; Luke 23: 32-43 NKJV.

 

So indeed Ren Time, love your neighbor as yourself, but also the heed the rest of the Word of God:

 

17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one [a]jot or one [b]tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5: 17-20 NKJV)

 

Here are some parting Words written in the Word of God about the mission of Jesus Christ the Son of God to a world enveloped in darkness:

 

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it.

 

That[a] was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

 

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [b]own, and His [c]own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [d]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1: 1-5, 9-14 NKJV)

 

JRH 5/22/18

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Larson Responds to Militant Atheist


Lee Larson responded awesomely to a profanity-distributing atheist who idiotically denies God’s existence then heaps descriptive profanity on Almighty God. Militant atheists are often illogical. 1) They deny God’s existence. 2) Then help insults on the person of God as if He exists as if the atheist will offend the Almighty.

 

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Larson Responds to Militant Atheist

January 3, 2018

Lee Larson

G+ Community (Fox News) Faith and Values

 

The fact that you have to resort to foul language tells everyone your level of intellect.

 

God gives purpose to life, He brings love & hope to a dark world. If all you believe is that you are born and then you die your life has no real meaning. As such you are drawn to grab all you can get any way you can get it. That is what our world loves because that makes people very rich, but it also makes it very brutal.

 

My happiness (or perceived happiness) is all that matters, as a result a lot of pain takes place along the way. Just take a look around and you will see it everywhere. Probably in your own life and that is why you have a hard time believing in God, the Creator of all things, visible and invisible.

 

I pray someday that you will experience a P.A.C.K. (Planned Act of Christian Kindness) event. When you least expect it, someone reaches out to you with an act of kindness wanting, even refusing, to accept anything in return, and letting you know that this is the Lord loving on you at this unusual time & place.

 

Like the free gift or service provided you and comes a reminder that this is what the grace of God through Jesus Christ is like, something you cannot buy or earn at any price. Jesus already took the punishment for your sins when He willingly died on the Cross for the redemption of all sins.

 

For that is the only way that we may stand in the Presence of our perfect Creator on that final day. There is good and evil in our world, there is light and there is darkness, there are things we can see and there are things that we cannot see. Things that we can explain and things that far exceed our human capacity of understanding. So why is it so hard to believe that the immense complexity of our own being as well as that of our world and the vastness of space exists because of an all-powerful and loving God?

 

One that provided us with His living Word in the Scriptures, One that came in person in the form of His Son to bring His Word to life so that we may believe, and One that sent His Spirit to dwell within us so that we may feel His very Presence and know true love, peace, and hope in eternal life with Him.

 

God bless!

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Edited for clarity by John R. Houk

I pray the editing meets with Lee Larson’s approval.

To view the atheist’s original post and the following comments including Larson’s post go HERE.