Genesis-Creation and Redemption


Creator of Heavens and Earth

John R. Houk

© September 15, 2013

 

If you visited my blogs in the past you are aware that I am a Christian Right kind of guy. What the Bible says is what I believe. Now saying that I am going to state something that will make some disagreeable and others agreeable. I am not a the-earth-was-created-6000-years-ago kind of guy.

 

During the period of 1650 to 1654 Protestant Bishop James Ussher published his studies of the age of the Earth as chronicled literally in the Bible. His published conclusion was that God created the Earth in 4004 BC (Before Christ). Ussher’s scholarship based on the literal time data derived from the Bible is actually quite brilliant.

 

I however, do not believe time periods in the Bible – or at least in the Old Testament – are not literal according to material linear time. You see I do believe God made Creation ex nihilo by speaking His handiwork into existence. BUT I believe God’s twinkling of the eye is not something that can be measured accurately in human corporeal understanding. The Eternal dimension of God’s dwelling is immeasurable.

 

The Genesis Creation epic God has allowed us to see in His Word, I believe, is not in the realm of 24 hour human understanding.

 

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[a] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3: 8-9 NKJV)

 

This tells me that human linear time does not measure up to God’s plan as it pertains to human reasoning. And the one day/thousand years comparison then should not be taken literally either. Although I don’t think it is impossible for God Almighty to make creation in 24 hour periods; however that which humans can measure seems to indicate that God did not take that path. So I am not going to commit myself to believing creation happened in terms of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of years or whatever human concept of time.

 

Now granted the context of 2 Peter 3: 8-9 is that God is not slack in completing the Redemption plan of humanity. The first instalment of Redemption is that the Blood of Christ Redeems the human spirit by changing the old man corrupted by Adam’s Fall is created anew becoming a new person in Christ Jesus – behold old things have passed away and our human spirit is a new creation. Jesus Christ is coming back to Redeem humanity fully. Not just the human spirit but soul and body as well. The context in the Second Epistle of Peter is the coming Full Redemption of humanity; nevertheless it is an indication that our God who lives outside of time made his Creation according to an Eternal existence which in the material world could be measured in any number of ways that the Word of God tries to simplify for human comprehension.

 

Now I have quite probably taken too long to get to the point. I just read an article on WND which is a promotion of a movie production that is entitled “Genesis 3D”. The movie is the Creationism view is valid because it is the Word of God and Evolution is fallacious because it is thought of a man’s theory; viz., Charles Darwin.

 

 

I am a Creationist except for that 6000 year human measured chronology thing. Evolutionism is a theory that STILL is not a proven fact. The only verifiable data on Evolution is that changing environment can change the genetics of an organism as observed in short termed experimental evidence. Using short term evidence for long term conclusions is a stretch in which science utilizes predictions and conjectural constructs for a preconceived conclusion.

 

I will stick with the Word of God which to those who Believe by Faith know is Truth.

 

1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

 

3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. (Hebrews 11: 1-3 NKJV)

 

By “faith” God framed existence ex nihilo by His Spoken Word. Human theory cannot definitively paint a picture of existence’s beginnings when that theory is outside of the Word of God. AND as much as the proponents of science proclaims the theory is the truth, science has NEVER found the observable evidence that makes a validating connection to Evolutionary theory.

 

Here is the Truth as disseminated by the Word of God:

 

1 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

 

3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

 

9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that it was good.

 

11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.

 

14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

 

20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

 

24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

 

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

 

29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

 

2 1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

 

4 This is the history[a] of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.

 

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. (Genesis 1; 2: 1-7 NKJV)

 

JRH 9/15/13

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Dialogue of Faith and Creation


Creator of Heaven & Earth 3

John R. Houk

© February 16, 2011

 

I am posting the middle of a dialogue between my son Adam and me. I should have kept the dialogue from the beginning but I had no idea these thoughts we go on for this long.

 

The theme is Creationism which we both believe in; however Adam is in line with most Creationists that the earth is only 6,000 years old, I believe the earth is in the billions of years old. Creationists would call this a sell-out to the Word of God, but I believe was not limited to a small time frame in the realm of natural law which God. Adam is very adamant in his position yet refrains from the hostility many Creationists would display. Incidentally I don’t begrudge Creationist hostility to an idea they would consider as part of the godless Theory of Evolution. People of the Christian faith have been the object of ridicule by the Western scientific community for generations because of the insistence of objective facts to formulate an objective solution while ignoring the subjective paradigm of faith.

 

16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal. (2 Cor. 4: 16-18 NKJV)

 

7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. (2 Cor. 5: 7 NKJV)

 

I should note that Adam is a grad student in Physics at Texas Tech. Here is the dialogue:

 

JRH 2/16/11

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Adam

RE: The young faint Sun paradox and the age of the solar system

February 15, 2011 1:41 PM

 

Also note that whether creation has been around billions of years or thousands of years only limits physical temporal existence and has no bearing on God’s temporal influence.  Because God is infinite he has no beginning or end so whether we existed billions of years or thousands of years is at his pleasure?  In other words a young universe doesn’t have any effect on God’s infinite eternal existence nor does an old universe. 

 

I would even go further to suggest whether the universe is young or old is still not even close to a blink of the eye in comparison to the infinite existence of God.  Because of this I believe to require the universe to be old because it makes sense that something that vast must be old is a limit on God’s power.  I approached the age of the universe with this concept in mind.  Starting by not limiting God to have a young or old universe but to having the universe at whatever age God wanted it.  Then I went through scripture and the empirical evidence I have found over the last say 5 years and came to the conclusion that it is more likely that the universe is young.  I also believe that a young universe is a much larger testimony to God’s limitless power than anything, because to just snap such vastness in existence at such speed is amazing and awesome. 

 

Here is something that even strengthened my belief in a young universe.  God does not want to leave room for error in his existence.  Scripture lets us know that existence itself is evidence enough for God’s existence.  To make an old universe leaves room for the Evolutionist theory as it requires vast amounts of time to be true.  To have a young universe removes any possibility whatsoever for random creation of existence.

 

And the scripture as evidence

 

Romans 1:20 KJV

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

 

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JRH

Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:21 AM

RE: The young faint Sun paradox and the age of the solar system

 

From God’s infinite perception toward temporal existence as it exists after the Fall I completely agree with you. Adam was created an eternal being outside the plain of temporal existence. When Adam realized he was naked it was not because nibbling on the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil awakened his intellect that he was walking around in the nude. Rather it was the realization that his clothing of glory of the eternal realm was gone because by eternal standards he died just as God told Adam would happen if he ate that fruit. Adam and Eve’s embarrassment was beyond just knowing they no longer had any clothes, the embarrassment was in knowing their Divine clothing of glory was gone. In selling their God-given lease to Satan they became temporal beings and the Earth became a cursed existence in the temporal realm. Part of the Future aspects of Redemption will be further than a new Creation of our human spirit that exists in this temporal realm with the hope of glory in the future. Full Redemption occurs after the 1,000 year reign of Christ and Satan’s final defeat. Then God will Re-Create a New Earth and a New Heaven and the two will become one as Christ is in the Father and the Father is in Christ and Christ is in humanity by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Humanity will again wear the clothes of glory and enter eternal existence as God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

 

Whether God’s Creation was 6,000 years ago (unlikely) or billions or years ago (more likely) man became limited in comprehending God’s eternal existence; thus the Bible is not written for God’s perception, rather the Bible is written for humanity to have a shot at perceiving God which is near impossible without Christ. Humanity’s Fallen finite temporal existence has difficulty perceiving God’s eternal infinite existence.

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Adam

Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:04 PM

RE: The young faint Sun paradox and the age of the solar system

 

Here’s a question for you.  Why do you say 6000 years is unlikely while billions of years ago are more likely?  Is it because today’s society is so ingrained in the doctrine of old earth that maybe it has been so long stated that it has been imprinted on you?  I have presented many evidences that have been discovered and what I would say has been repressed from being publicized.  Would you not agree with me that a young Earth is more likely to show God’s magnificent and eternal power as it is not limited by a human standard that would require a long time for creation to be made? 

 

I also pulled out the verse below (i.e. Romans 1: 20 above in this post) that was uncommented on that points out that God left plenty of evidence of his awesomeness that would lead me further to believe that God might set things up to make it impossible for anything other than him to create it.  A young Earth would do just that as it would remove all possibilities that science has for a universe without God; thus leaving even further proof of his awesomeness and glory.  To go further I believe that temporal existence was created on the first day, and that even though Adam was a spiritual being he did exist in a temporal universe.  I believe before the first day, time did not exist and time might possibly not exist again after Satan’s final defeat, but I give room for time still existing because even though God makes a new earth and heaven he doesn’t imply the retraction of time.  I don’t really think it makes a difference and that I will understand that part when the time comes.  I agree with everything you said below except what you say on time.

 

On a side note I have come to believe that God exists beyond the temporal as I believe he sees all of time at once, which is evidence by the fact that prophecy is even given.  Whatever is going to happen then has already happened.  This proposes a problem for many scientists as they believe that this interprets that no one has free will.  But that is not true, just because God sees all of time does not remove free will as we are bound by time.  I might state differently if we could perceive every moment of our existence on this temporal field and never changed any decisions.  If upon the final defeat we moved into a timeless existence that is much more complicated and beyond my ability to understand.  But there is something I still understand; we will still have free will.

 

As a physicist there is one interesting thing I have learned that you might not know.  Time is a physical parameter that only exists because we are in the physical.  I don’t think time will exist If physical will leave, and because physical was created in the first day time started.

 

From current understanding of relativity time slows down in the presence of mass.  Infinite mass means time stops.  The opposite is true with lack of mass.  Where there is no mass movement is at the speed of light and time stops for that unit while everything else moves at an infinite rate of time.  Also the universe contracts to 0 for anything moving at the speed of light.  This is where relativity has become so complicated it is just too hard for many to think about.  Light at this point is beyond our understanding.  Because if the universe contracts to 0 for something at the speed of light, why does it take any time for light to travel in the first place?  From the perception of light no time has passed for it while the rest of the universe should immediately die because time of everything outside it passes at infinite rate, yet light gets from one place to another without all of existence passing by.  This suggests incompleteness in the understanding of light.  Relativity is incomplete. 

 

Also here comes the incompleteness of Quantum Mechanics for any one that believes in God.  There is a relation called the uncertainty principle.  It states that the uncertainty of position times the uncertainty of momentum cannot be less than a value of h bar over 2.  That’s about .5 *10^-34 Joule seconds.  Basically the uncertainty of position or momentum cannot be 0.  This is obviously wrong because there is no uncertainty in position or momentum when it comes to God so again Quantum Mechanics is also incomplete.  These 2 things are one of the most ingrained and highly accepted things in physics.

 

I am also totally convinced in a young Earth now because of all the evidences that has been presented to me.  It now has become my duty in life to fix these 3 things and 1 outside these 3. 

 

1) Propagate Young Earth science and continue to find more evidences of it.

 

2) Find what is incomplete in Quantum Mechanics that will explain an exact position with exact momentum.

 

3) Define light better than I might be able to do 2 things:

 

1) solve the problems with the relativity principle

 

2) explain why light travels across 13 billion Light years in less than 6000 years. 

 

4) Solve what is wrong with radioactive decay.

 

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JRH

RE: The young faint Sun paradox and the age of the solar system

Wed 2/16/2011 2:22 PM

 

Adam you are a true stubborn Houk, but so am I. I simply cannot accept a short term Creation Theory; however I do believe in the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and all that exists but on a long term basis.

 

A short term Creation points toward the omnipotent supernatural power of God to break natural law which I do believe in. Since I do believe that, when we are both in Heaven you can say, “I told you so.” OR if I am correct I can say, “I told you so.” I believe the long term theory of Creation points to God’s immeasurable eternal existence. As to lingua-physics, my brain shuts off when it comes to mathematical thinking.

 

Love ya Dad

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Note:

I should note I did a bit of editing for both Adam and me. As is often the case emails are not necessarily written for publication, but rather for brevity between individuals. I pray I did not alter any of Adam’s content with my editing.

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Adam D. Houk

12/17/2010 10:32 PM

 

I remember having an argument about the meaning of the word “fact” with a friend of my a few months back.  Basically I stated that a fact is something that has actually happened, not something that has been theorized and or highly accepted amongst many as the truth.  My argument was: Without an actual being to observe it there is no way to show that something is fact because we might later find out down the road there is another perfectly good explanation that fits all experiments and contradicts the current belief which also fits all the experiments.  Without being able to distinguish which is true there is no way of proving one or the other is a fact.

 

Definition of current online Webster’s Dictionary of the word “fact”:

 

1:

a. thing done: as an obsolete: feat

b. crime <accessory after the fact>

c. archaic: action

 

2. archaic: performance, doing

 

3. The quality of being actual – actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>

 

4.

a. Something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact>

b. An actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>

 

5. A piece of information presented as having objective reality — in fact, in truth

 

My 1996 copy written Webster’s Dictionary of the word fact:

 

1. A deed, esp. a criminal deed [an accessory before (or after) the fact]

 

2. A thing that has actually happened or is really true

 

3. Reality; truth

 

4. Something stated to be true – as a matter of fact in reality; also in fact

 

Notice how the 3rd definition was added in the newer version.  By my 1996 version my statement is absolutely true.  In the newest version this thing where people want things to be called “facts” which is best on quality of being actual instead of what is really actual is a matter of redefining our language to fit an agenda that is bent on removing God from this world.  Yes when I had this argument it was because the Big Bang theory has been talked about as a fact when it is not a fact just by the mere impossibility a being actually being there to observe it, a fact is something that you can’t refute.  I can, God created the universe.

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Adam is a Physics Graduate Student at Texas Tech University.