‘Worse than expected’: IG’s coming report expected to be ‘fairly damning indictment’ of Comey’s FBI


James Gagliano – CNN Reporter

 

WHAT! A CNN reporter says his sources report that IG Michael Horowitz will be releasing a “damning indictment” of FBI Seventh Floor, i.e. the FBI managing elitists.

 

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‘Worse than expected’: IG’s coming report expected to be ‘fairly damning indictment’ of Comey’s FBI

 

By Tom Tillison

May 10, 2018

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James Gagliano, a law enforcement analyst for CNN, took to Twitter Wednesday to share that sources tell him the soon-to-be released Department of Justice Inspector General report is “worse than expected.” according to his sources.

 

The retired FBI supervisory special agent added that the report is “a fairly damning indictment of FBI’s seventh floor during the [James] Comey era.”

 

“Sources with knowledge of the impending DOJ Inspector General Report confirm that it will be a fairly damning indictment of FBI’s seventh floor during the Comey era. “It’s worse than expected,” seems to be the consistent theme …,” Gagliano tweeted.

 

 

 

The seventh floor is where senior officials at the FBI call home, such as fired FBI Director James Comey and his fired deputy director, Andrew McCabe, according to The Washington Times.

 

Did we mention that Gagliano is a CNN analyst?

 

Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz released a damning report last month that accused McCabe of “lack of candor” about his authorization of leaks to the media, behavior that the report said “constituted misconduct.”

 

 

 

Horowitz also forwarded  criminal referral for McCabe to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington D.C.

 

The reaction on social media centered around the question of whether the country will see “equal justice” following the release of the inspector general’s report, though some suggested the FBI may need to do some refurbishing on the 7th floor.

 

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CNN’s Undisclosed Ties To Fusion GPS


Fusion GPS has been used by both Dems and GOP as a source of Oppo Research by political candidates. Fusion GPS is not alone in this political function. Oppo Research is essentially mudslinging that might be the truth but often is mixed with half-truths. If there is a half-truth, then there is a half-lie.

 

Pertaining to Fusion GPS and President Trump, Oppo Research was first requested by a yet undisclosed Republican candidate for the GOP nomination for President (perhaps via Washington Free Beacon). The MSM reports this but fails to inform readers – whoever that candidate was – dropped their involvement with Fusion GPS when Donald Trump wrapped up the GOP nomination.

 

THEN Fusion GPS shopped out the Oppo Research to the Dems. That is where the now proven fraudulent so-called Trump Dossier was fabricated by an ex-MI6 British agent (Christopher Steele) probably with Russian help.

 

Now unsurprisingly, it is being reported Fusion GPS has a close relationship with the Communist News Network – aka CNN, the very network that has been pushing Fake News Trump/Russia collusion rather telling the truth of Crooked Hillary/DNC/Fusion GPS/Russian collusion in the November 2016 U.S. election.

 

JRH 10/29/17 (Hat Tip: Digg Deeper Email from Digg.com)

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CNN’s Undisclosed Ties To Fusion GPS

 

By CHUCK ROSS AND PETER HASSON

10/28/2017 1:07 AM 

The Daily Caller

 

CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

 

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

 

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

 

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

 

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.

 

Photos posted to Facebook underscore the personal closeness between Perez and the Fusion GPS operatives. One photo posted by Perez shows King, who left the Journal for Fusion in December 2016, and another man posing for a picture at The Bullpen, an outdoor bar right outside of the Washington Nationals’ stadium.

 

The Bullpen is a popular fan destination before baseball games. King is shown wearing a shirt with the Nationals name and logo across the front. The photo was posted in August 2016, four months before King joined Fusion GPS.

 

Neil King is seen on the left, in a photo posted by CNN reporter Evan Perez. (Screenshot/Facebook)

 

Another photo, from September 2015, shows Perez, King and Fusion co-founder Peter Fritsch.

 

Screenshot/Facebook

 

In 2011, the same year that Fritsch co-founded Fusion, Perez posted two photos on Facebook from an apparent fishing trip with Fritsch. The photos show the Wall Street Journal alum holding a fishing rod and standing ankle-deep in a lake. In one of the photos, Fritsch can be seen flipping the camera his middle finger.

 

Screenshot/Facebook

 

Screenshot/Facebook

 

At no point in Perez’s reporting did he disclose his close ties to the Fusion GPS operatives.

 

The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board sounded the alarm about its former reporters in a remarkable editorial earlier this month, accusing Beltway media of being complicit in a coverup with Fusion. “Americans don’t need a Justice Department coverup abetted by Glenn Simpson’s media buddies,” the editors wrote in a scathing takedown of the firm.

 

Simpson’s wife, Mary Jacoby, bragged about his role in the dossier in a lengthy June 2017 Facebook post reviewed by The Daily Caller.

 

Jacoby claimed that “some people still don’t realize what Glenn’s role was in exposing Putin’s control of Donald Trump,” referencing the dossier’s thesis. The dossier claimed that Russians had evidence of damaging information on Trump that they would use to blackmail him, an explosive accusation for which there remains no public evidence.

 

CNN’s coverage of the dossier has been relatively soft. CNN anchor Jake Tapper, usually known for his aggressive coverage, gave Fusion a pass while reporting on the story Wednesday evening.

 

“Certainly some of the more lurid charges in that dossier remain uncorroborated, but some of the details have been proven accurate,” Tapper said. But the newsman failed to mention reporting he did back in January that called the dossier’s credibility into question.

 

On Jan. 10, the day that BuzzFeed published the dossier, Tapper cited a government source who told him that a key claim in the dossier about Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, was false. The dossier alleged that Cohen traveled to Prague last August to meet with Kremlin operatives. But Tapper reported that government officials believed that a different Michael Cohen had actually traveled to the Czech Republic. Tapper has not acknowledge[d] that reporting since that initial segment. (RELATED: Jake Tapper’s Dodgy Dossier Reporting)

 

CNN’s reporting on the dossier has similarly muddied the waters with incorrect information on multiple other occasions.

 

CNN did not respond to The Daily Caller’s request for comment about Perez’s ties to Fusion’s partners.

 

Fusion GPS, currently at the center of the Russia investigation, has a reputation for working misinformation into the media for political clients.

 

Thor Halvorssen, founder of the Human Rights Foundation, described Fusion GPS as “highly paid smear experts” in written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. He says that the firm went after him several years ago because he criticized a corrupt Venezuelan company Derwick Associates that counted Fusion as a client.

 

Alek Boyd, a former associate of Halvorssen’s, says he was also targeted in a similar smear campaign because he drew attention to Derwick’s alleged financial misdeeds. He said he also faced false allegations of being a pedophile, sexual deviant and drug addict.

 

“Fusion is basically a pen-for-hire shop, whose owners are prepared to concoct completely spurious stories that are fed to media contacts developed over years of legitimate work in reputable outlets,” Boyd told TheDC.

 

Bill Browder, a renowned human rights activist and top Putin enemy, offered similar testimony before the committee.

 

Browder described how Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, the same attorney that met with Donald Trump Jr. last year, used Fusion GPS to conduct a smear campaign against him.

 

“Veselnitskaya, through Baker Hostetler, hired Glenn Simpson of the firm Fusion GPS to conduct a smear campaign against me and Sergei Magnitsky in advance of congressional hearings on the Global Magnitsky Act,” Browder stated in his written testimony.

 

“He contacted a number of major newspapers and other publications to spread false information that Sergei Magnitsky was not murdered, was not a whistle-blower, and was instead a criminal. They also spread false information that my presentations to lawmakers around the world were untrue,” Browder said.

 

Browder’s testimony drew bipartisan praise, with California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, praising Browder’s account as “some of the best testimony I’ve ever heard.”

 

CNN has faced scrutiny in the past for its reporting on the Russia probe. Two prominent CNN reporters and an editor were forced to leave the network after repeated mistakes in covering the Russia probe, including one report that CNN retracted entirely(RELATED: CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Humiliates Colleague Over Quality Of Her Sources)

 

This article has been updated to include Tapper’s full quote, in which he neglected to mention his previous reporting calling the dossier’s credibility into question.

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CNN Caught Distorting News AGAIN!


John R. Houk

© July 1, 2017

 

CNN (aka the Communist News Network or Fake News Network) is not only a Left Stream Media leader in hate-Trump stories (NBC/MSNBC is right up there) it also is one the largest purveyors of Fake News against President Trump.

 

As such Project Veritas has exposed CNN – AGAIN – to disseminating Fake News with the agenda of making President Trump and CNN panelist Billy Baer appear as liars about voter fraud to the favor of the Dem Party.

 

First, a quote from Project Veritas about this toward the end of a post on their website:

 

Carr’s “direct co-workers,” are from the program New Day, hosted by Alisyn Camerota and Chris Cuomo, which hosted an eight-minute panel discussion featuring six Trump supporters.

 

Leaked audio from the segment–an hour and a half long–was provided to Project Veritas.

 

The audio proved that CNN had selectively edited the segment to make the Trump voters appear as conspiracy theorists.

 

In reality, the context of their arguments was omitted to feed CNN’s Anti-Trump narrative. (American Pravda Part 3: CNN Selectively Edits, Hates Trump, and Think Voters Are Stupid; By Nicholas Evangelista; Project Veritas; 6/30/17)

 

Next, I will cross post the email alert from James O’Keefe of Project Veritas followed by the James O’Keefe tweet that has 2-minutes and 19-seconds of the 8-minute CNN/Camerota Panel.

 

As of the moment I was looking for corroboration, I could only find a USSA News story that utilizes InfoWars/Prison Planet as part of their source. (A source too often unjustly accused of fake Conspiracy Theories yet in many cases a quite justified accusation.) I am cross posting the USSA News story because it has the same footage the O’Keefe tweet has but with an added extra minute.

 

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CNN caught AGAIN

 

By James O’Keefe

Sent 6/30/2017 1:34 PM

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This morning, I released another Project Veritas video—where CNN anchor Alisyn Camerota engages in some questionable “selective editing,” in order to make a pro-Trump panelist look like a conspiracy theorist.

 

  1. Watch this video immediately.

 

  1. Tweet this video to President Trump (@RealDonaldTrump)—showing him that the American people are standing behind him when it comes to combating CNN’s fake news.

 

In the video, Alisyn Camerota skeptically asks a panelist, Billy Baer, if there’s any proof of President Trump’s claims that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election.

Baer says he doesn’t personally have any concrete proof—and the video cuts off his answer, making him look like a conspiracy theorist.

But, in the full audio obtained by Project Veritas, CNN cuts out Baer’s next sentence: where he references a Project Veritas video that exposed how easy it is to fraudulently obtain a ballot, at polling places all across the country.

When we say that CNN is peddling “fake news,” we don’t just mean they’re making up stories. They’re also twisting words, taking opinions out of context, and misrepresenting the facts in order to build a narrative that doesn’t exist.

If we’re going to stop fake news at CNN, we’re counting on your help right now.

Watch this video immediately, and then tweet it to @RealDonaldTrump—so he knows exactly how many Americans are joining him in the fight against fake news.

Thanks for your help.

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CNN Accused Of Editing Out Eyewitness Testimony Of Voter Fraud

 

Posted by Tea Party Conservative

June 30, 2017

USSA News

 

CNN has been accused of deceptively editing a statement from an interviewee to omit the part where he describes the voter fraud he personally witnessed when he worked as a poll watcher.

 

As Infowars reports, the accusation stems from Project Veritas’ latest video exposing the inner workings of CNN.

 

In the Project Veritas video, the organization’s head James O’Keefe refers to an eight minute segment CNN aired on March 30.

 

That segment involved a forum of Americans discussing their views on President Donald Trump.

 

One of those Americans was William Baer, who stated that during his time as a poll watcher, he saw people being bussed in to polling stations.

 

If Baer’s remarks were to be proven true, they would give credence to President Donald Trump’s concerns about voter fraud in the 2016 election, which Democrats have been very quick to denounce.

 

Unfortunately, according to O’Keefe, Baer’s full explanation for what he saw never made it to air.

 

O’Keefe’s report contains the raw audio of the March 30 segment which shows that Baer’s explanation – during which he states that, during his time as a poll watcher in New Jersey, he personally witnessed lax voter registration standards that would make it very easy to commit voter fraud – was cut out from the piece completely.

 

“The piece suggests that Baer did not have a legitimate answer to [CNN host Alisyn] Camerota’s question – in actuality the answer was cut because it didn’t fit their narrative – this is a textbook lie of omission,” claims James O’Keefe.

 

See the relevant segment of Project Veritas’ latest video – including the leaked audio from the moment Baer provides eyewitness testimony – below.

 

 

 

News of CNN’s obvious selective editing comes as the battle concerning whether or not President Donald Trump is correct to be concerned about voter fraud rages on.

 

Earlier today, CNN had Kentucky’s Democratic Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes on air to accuse President Donald Trump of attempting to justify his lies with his voter fraud panel’s recent request for information to aid in its investigation.

 

 

 

The Baltimore Sun quotes Democratic Baltimore County Executive Kevin Kamenetz as stating, “President Trump’s voter fraud investigation is an attempt to suppress and disenfranchise voters, plain and simple.”

 

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The Baltimore Sun

 

USA Today

 

Infowars

 

Fox News

 

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Irony – Napolitano Vindicated by CNN


John R. Houk

© April 15, 2017

 

Judge Andrew Napolitano said he had sources the British GCHQ was helping Obama spy on Donald Trump. The irony is Left Stream media CNN found the same info from their sources. I wonder if the Judge’s sources and CNN’s sources were the same.

 

There is one egregious lack of Mainstream Media (MSM) that bothers me and should bother you immensely as an American citizen. The MSM is in full cover Barack Hussein Obama’s gluteus maximus for spying on President Donald Trump before and directly after he won POTUS on November 2016. This includes a host of Crooked Hillary acolytes.

 

What do these Leftist Dems have in common:

 

Hillary, Barack, Biden (in his own insane way), Jarett, Rice, Rhodes, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Podesta, Brazile, Mook, Palmieri, Wasserman-Schultz and other similar deviant political operatives”.

 

You should be astonished, rather you should be thinking – “I KNEW IT!”

 

My sources tell me there was a clear conspiracy to spy on the Trump camp to steal the presidency. … deviant political operatives who were working overtime to steal the election. Not Trump colluding with Russia.” (Obama Spygate: How Obama And Hillary Almost Stole The American Presidency; By Bill Robinson, WESTERN JOURNALISM; ISRAPUNDIT; 4/15/17)

 

I am quite gratified that one of the Leftist cover-ups has found a MSM reversal. CNN (in jest – Communist News Network) has released some information that confirms Judge Andrew Napolitano’s assertion that Obama was also using British Intelligence to spy on Trump. If you recall, Fox News actually suspended Napolitano for exposing this. The good Judge has since had his suspension lifted.

 

The Blaze points out the Left will claim was mere incidental Intelligence gathering. But you have to realize that is a load of horse pucky if you realize the so-called incidental gathering included Trump info. Why would British Intelligence gathering merely share incidental intel or even incidental intel that specifically looked Trump?

 

The answer: Obama was spying!

 

Here’s The Blaze reporting on the CNN revelation of Obama/British Intelligence sharing on Spygate-Trump.

 

British GCHQ building nick-named The Donut

 

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In an astonishing turn of events, CNN has reported that the Obama administration did, in fact, receive intelligence reports from British Intelligence concerning Trump aide’s communications with Russia. Whether or not these reports will pass the litmus test for collusion is yet to be determined. What has been determined is that the Obama administration was in fact spying on Americans.

 

CNN: British intelligence provided Trump-Russian intercepts to US agencies

 

By Carlos Garcia

Apr 13, 2017 8:16 pm

The Blaze

 

CNN reported Thursday that their sources indicate British intelligence services provided U.S. agencies with intercepts they obtained between Trump campaign associates and the Russian government. They say it was “incidental collection,” much like the kind that was captured by U.S. agencies on Trump associates.

 

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what’s known as “incidental collection,” these sources tell CNN.

 

The Trump administration had previously denied a report that they apologized to the British government for including the GCHQ in a list of agencies that former President Obama used to spy on Trump.

 

In March, Fox News’ Judge Napolitano claimed that he had sources telling him Obama had asked foreign intelligence services to spy on Trump.

 

“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI and he didn’t use the Department of Justice,” said Judge Napolitano. “He used GCHQ.”

 

The United Kingdom denied it, Fox News denied they had knowledge of these sources, and they suspended Judge Napolitano, who maintained the truth of his assertion.

 

Trump cited Napolitano’s claim as evidence that he had been surveilled by the Obama administration before the election, an accusation he fired off in a tweet that spurred a congressional investigation into the matter.

 

Trump allies will likely use this report to bolster his claim that he was being surveilled by the prior administration, while critics of the president will point to this as more circumstantial evidence that there was collusion between the Trump camp and the Russians.

 

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My Thoughts on CNN GOP Debate


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© September 17, 2015

I DVRed the CNN GOP debate and watched it this morning. Upon my quick perusal online and on Cable News shows I got the feeling political pundits are giving Carly Fiorina the top spot and that the Dems are calling the debate a farce. Frankly I could care less what Dems think because in all probability the Dems won’t be involved in GOP Primaries and Caucuses. (Although the Dems have a reputation for registering the likes of Mickey Mouse, dead Uncle Joe, dead Aunt Jane, non-citizen/non-registered Illegal Aliens and so forth.)

Here is the order I felt debate winners should have went:

1) Carly Fiorina

2) John Kasich

3) Marco Rubio

4) Mike Huckabee

5) Donald Trump

6) Chris Christie

7) Ted Cruz

8) Ben Carson

9) Scott Walker

10)Jeb Bush

11)Rand Paul

In full disclosure, I don’t think Donald Trump would be an effective President; HOWEVER Mr. Trump’s issue that rings with me is immigration (though maybe not quite as harsh). And frankly Trump’s make America strong and turn the screws to avoid bad deals ranks high with me as well (e.g. Obamacare & Iran Nuke Deal). For volumes of other issues (social & political) I have the feeling Mr. Trump could rub various Conservatives of political power the wrong way thus stalling legislation more than moving legislation along.

I ranked Carly Fiorina first because she displayed strength amongst the big boys, had a specific agenda to make America strong and respected again all surrounded with forthright confidence. I could care less that Ms. Fiorina is a woman. As a candidate she came across as resolute.

I’m a little surprised that John Kasich was given such a low rank by the pundit experts and the various unscientific polls I viewed on the Internet. I felt has campaign thoughts were very well reasoned. For example he wouldn’t simply toss out the Iran Nuke Deal but follow through the so-called snap-back stipulations of the deal when Iran fails on its part (AND MAKE NO MISTAKE – IRAN HAS NO INTENTION OF HONORING the Obama-Kerry deal). Frankly the Kasich reasoning will play better with our European allies who still enjoy our involvement in NATO yet starving for the potential oil Iran might offer.

Marco Rubio provided the best Conservative response among the U.S. Senators that went past the right words but included reasoned passion.

Mike Huckabee didn’t have a lot of time to make some political points, BUT the air time he managed to get was awesome. He was a good Conservative while avoiding the mutual insults that Donald Trump managed to drag his closest rivals into.

I ranked Trump after Huckabee. Let’s be honest. Trump is not number one in the polls because of details, but rather for giving voice to Americans weary of Obama’s screw-ups, immigration policies, all white people are evil – especially cops (e.g. Federal investigation in Ferguson aimed at police rather than an 18 year old thug), the ineffective debacle Americans call Obamacare and Executive Orders that by-pass Congress in a questionable Constitutional manner (e.g. Iran Nuke Deal). Even if Trump couldn’t pull off half of what he says he will do, because he says it, if nominated I will vote for him. In the GOP Primary in my State I’ll be voting for someone else.

I actually liked what Chris Christie said, but there something I can’t put my finger on that seems amenable to the Republican Establishment. Yet I’d vote for him if he was the nominee.

Ted Cruz was my early favorite when he first announced his candidacy for POTUS. AND I still like Senator Cruz a lot; however his debate performance looked more like campaign ad paid for and approved by Ted Cruz for President.

Ben Carson is another person I’d vote for if he won the nomination; however I sense this very nice guy’s neurosurgeon experience may not be enough to run the Executive Branch of the United States of America.

I like Scott Walker but his debate last night was not memorable.

If Jeb Bush won the nomination I’d vote for him. YET Jeb is too friendly on illegal immigrants and he is supportive of federally mandated Common Core. Although I felt the latter years of Jeb’s brother’s policy decisions too often was friendly with Muslims that were more Salafists than a notion of peaceful (e.g. CAIR), President George W. Bush was a hero in projecting strength after 9/11. He invaded Afghanistan for harboring al Qaeda and Usama bin Laden. Even though the intelligence was off on Iraq, G.W. Bush didn’t take chances and toppled a vicious dictator in Saddam Hussein. THE ONLY reason ISIS/Daesh became an Islamic terrorist power in Iraq and Syria has nothing to do with invading Iraq but rather with Obama pulling out of Iraq lock, stock and barrel. Iraq’s religious schism and the distrust of Iraqi Kurds of Arab Sunnis and Shias rise ripe for government disintegration.

I love Senator Rand Paul’s domestic agenda and his anti-abortion stand. However, his national policies of pseudo-isolationism is a Libertarian path that will result in the same outcomes that President Barack Hussein Obama has led America.

Well those are my two cents that I got a feeling a lot of my fellow Conservatives will find fault with; however November 2016 is far off still and the number of candidates will be whittled down substantially especially after the early Primaries and Caucuses.

Here are some polls and/or rankings from either an unscientific Internet vote or a political pundit.

Here is the complete list of results from the Newsmax poll (as of 2:15 PM CT):

Donald Trump 46.26%
Carly Fiorina 20.11%
Sen. Marco Rubio 9.32%
Dr. Ben Carson 9.22%
Sen. Ted Cruz 5.67%
Gov. John Kasich 3.10%
Gov. Chris Christie 2.14%
Gov. Jeb Bush 1.45%
Sen. Rand Paul 1.27%
Gov. Mike Huckabee 1.04%
Gov. Scott Walker 0.41% (Trump Is Runaway Debate Winner Newsmax Poll; By Cathy Burke; Newsmax; 9/17/15 08:40 AM)

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The candidates? Here’s how I’d [i.e. Bobby Eberle] rank them… not necessarily on substance (especially Bush) but rather how they did last night and whether their performance will tend to help them.

1. Carly Fiorina — Easy Pick. She won.
2. Marco Rubio — Passionate answers and showed a grasp of the issues
3. Ted Cruz — Needs to work on his delivery, but every single answer is the best.
4. Jeb Bush — He was more energetic, and people will see it and his name, and he’ll likely move up.
5. Chris Christie — Answered everything well.
6. Mike Huckabee — Great answers, just limited time.
7. Donald Trump — He went in as the frontrunner and didn’t hurt himself. However, he’s going to need to add more substance going forward.
8. Ben Carson
9. Scott Walker
10. John Kasich
11. Rand Paul (GOP Candidates Spar for Three Hours… But Who Won? By Bobby Eberle; GOP USA; 9/17/15 7:13 am)

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Carly Fiorina was the victor by acclamation, having clearly done her homework. It seemed as if she were giving a verbal PowerPoint presentation full of solid information and proposals for actually doing something. She clearly showed she belonged at the prime time debate.

But, contrary to Beltway groupthink, we think Marco Rubio outshined her. Rather than having crammed for an exam, policy was second nature to him. He was so familiar with the material, he did more than recite it — he showed he’d be comfortable leading with it. His mastery of issues put him head and shoulders above anyone else on the stage last night. (GOP Debate Overview and Highlights; By Mark Alexander and Nate Jackson; The Patriot Post; 9/17/15)

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The Winners:

Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina were the two standouts in Wednesday’s debate.

Rubio brought an appealing mix of the common touch and tough talk on foreign policy to the debate stage. Unlike some other candidates, he didn’t seem like he was elbowing his way into the debate, so it “felt” like he was a featured speaker. He sounded like the grownup in the room when he tussled with Trump on foreign policy. …

Fiorina was smart and scrappy. Her Planned Parenthood screed was fantastic. She rightly redirected the focus away from the faux “women’s healthcare” straw man (straw woman?) to the real issue of Planned Parenthood selling chopped-up babies. Other candidates ought to take note. Carly does need to soften her edges a bit because she tends to dial it up to harsh and stay there.

Middle of the Pack:

Ted Cruz was brilliant and in command of the facts …

Mike Huckabee’s shining moment was his defense of religious liberty. He noted that GITMO prisoners are afforded more religious accommodations than county clerks in Kentucky. He has a point.

Chris Christie also had a good night and he landed some solid blows in Trump’s direction. But he was crowded out by Carly and Rubio …

Walker had some good moments, but not enough of them. I honestly do not remember one thing he said.

Jeb Bush didn’t do anything to help himself in this debate, but he wasn’t as terrible as he could have been and didn’t cede any of his (already shaky) ground. …

The Losers:

Ben Carson was out of his element. Completely. …

Donald Trump, as usual, was boorish and didn’t give substantive answers to important questions. …

Rand Paul tried to salvage his floundering campaign with appeals to the hardcore libertarians who supported his father, but he was too wonky and not likable.

John Kasich’s answers on foreign policy were bizarre. He seriously defended Obama’s Iran deal. And then he didn’t. Or did he? Who knows? He said two things that are in conflict: a) We shouldn’t trust the Iranians and b) if they cheat, the sanctions should be lifted. … [Blog Editor: I stand with my understanding of Kasich and the Iran Nuke Deal. See above.]

… (Two Winners and Four Losers in CNN’s GOP Debate; By Paula Bolyard; PJ MediaPJ Tatler; 9/17/15 12:46 am)

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Thank you, we have already counted your vote.

Donald Trump 36.66%

Carly Fiorina 30.32%

Marco Rubio 12.41%

Ben Carson 6.25%

Chris Christie 3.92%

Jeb Bush 3.26%

Rand Paul 2.24%

John Kasich 1.87%

Ted Cruz 1.87%

Mike Huckabee 0.75%

Scott Walker 0.45% (Who do you think won the CNN GOP debate? BY CNN WIRES; FOX2now – St. Louis; 9/17/15 9:38 AM [Continuous Poll as of 2:57 PM CT])

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Here is how I [i.e. Brian] would rate the debate performances:

1. Carly Fiorina – I would say Fiorina helped herself the most. She was very articulate and was able multiple times to reel off a litany of specifics on various subjects. She came across as tough and determined. You could see how she could be the person in the Oval Office. I will be shocked if Fiorina does not come out of this debate with a huge boost in the polls.

2. Chris Christie – He was very good tonight, and should get a boost in the polls off of this performance. He was direct and tough, taking on several of his fellow-candidates on issues.

3. Marco Rubio – While he comes across too much as if he is lecturing everyone, Rubio had a good night, focusing on Foreign Policy. He got a lot of time to talk, which should mean more of a lasting impression.

4. Donald Trump – Trump did not really get hurt badly in this debate. I thought he might get really beaten up with everyone gunning for him. But he held his own, made no major gaffes, and should remain a strong candidate. A case could be made for him to be much higher in the debate ranking simply because, as the front-runner, he did no harm.

5. Ted Cruz – He was very good – but got shorted on time. When he did speak, he clearly set himself forth as the true conservative on the stage.

6. Jeb Bush – He had some good moments, but still came across as trying to hard sometimes in the exchanges with Donald Trump. But this was better than his first debate.

7. Rand Paul – He got quite a bit of time to talk and he did well at articulating his more libertarian philosophy. I don’t think it will mean much of a boot in the polls, but he was better tonight than in the first debate.

8. John Kasich – He didn’t get much time to talk and really did nothing to distinguish himself in this debate. He needed to do that.

9. Mike Huckabee – He also didn’t get much talking time, and when he did, he didn’t really connect with what he was saying. He needed to have a “Wow” moment.

10. Scott Walker – I don’t know what has happened to Walker. He seemed so detached and really does not connect with his answers. I think he did himself no good with this debate.

11. Ben Carson – This really shocks me. But Carson truly hurt himself with this debate performance. I don’t know how much play it will get, but Ben Carson actually said George W. Bush should not have attacked Afghanistan after September 11, 2001. … (Rating the Candidates from the CNN GOP Presidential Debate: Fiorina Shines, Trump Holds His Own, Carson Stumbles; Posted by Brian; Freedom’s Lighthouse; 9/17/15)

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Current U.S. Polling

September 16, 2015

Executive Summary

Gravis Marketing, a nonpartisan research firm, conducted a random survey of 1,337 registered Republican voters across the U.S. regarding the performance and opinions of the Republicans that took place in the first Republican Primary debate. The poll has a margin of error of ± 3%. The total may not round to 100% because of rounding. The polls were conducted using IVR technology and weighted by gender. The poll was conducted for One America News Network.

Who do you think won the debate?

Photo OANN Poll of CBN GOP Debate

… (One America News/Gravis Marketing Post Debate; By Doug Kaplan; Scribd.; 9/17/15) [Hat Tip: PJ Tatler]

JRH 9/17/15

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Ferguson – Lamestream Media, Race Baiters and a Closer Truth


Darren Wilson - Receiving Commendation

Officer Darren Wilson Receiving Commendation

 

 

John R. Houk

© August 24, 2014

 

It is becoming increasingly clear the racism that currently exists in Ferguson Missouri is not so much from White policemen but from a crime infested element of Ferguson’s Black community. Oh yeah, I think it is more politically correct to say ‘African-American,’ sorry about that pc police.

 

Anyway, the Lamestream Media went directly to the so-called eyewitnesses for an account because the local police was erring on the side of caution due to the racial volatility of which they were already aware. On the other hand the Ferguson Police has a crummy civil rights record. Other than the demise of Michael Brown a fairly recent incident involving an arrest of Henry Davis occurred. The problem: the Ferguson Police arrested the wrong Henry Davis. Here is a description of what happened to the wrong Henry Davis:

 

The short version: the police beat up Davis, concussing him and causing him to bleed. A lot. Although they had to admit he wasn’t the man named in the warrant — the only reason he was picked up in the first place — he was criminally charged for . . . wait for it . . . getting blood on their uniforms. You ought to read Daly’s piece to get the full flavor of the case. (A Little Ferguson History; By Michael Lumer; Fourth and Fourteenth; 8/16/14)

 

And the perspective local justice corruption gets worse in the case of Henry Davis:

 

A quick check on Pacer reveals that Davis filed a civil lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri in August 2010. During the case, according to Daly, the officers, who deny the excessive force, actually denied that they were bled on, even after being confronted with the signed criminal complaint. It also appears that the district judge found this perjury too minor for a due process violation, which is bizarre. If the officers lied to prosecutors about the damage to their uniforms in order to initiate and maintain the prosecution, Davis ought to be able to proceed to trial on a fabricated evidence/due process claim. The court also decided that the concussion was not a severe enough injury to merit a trial, which is another facially ridiculous ruling. (Ibid.)

 

O yeah, I forgot to mention that Davis was Black. Thus it is quite evident the Black citizens of the city of Ferguson have little to zero faith in the local justice system.

 

And yet again, on the other hand, the conflicting accounts on just how Michael Brown was shot by police and the evidence pointing out the kid was an 18 year old thug, meant he should have been arrested. The Leftist retort that small time robbery (cigars from convenience store) is never an excuse for fatally shooting anyone let alone a person as young as 18 year old Michael Brown although he legally was an adult.

 

According to the 2010 U.S. Census, America’s total population is 299,736,465 (via InfoPlease). In this population breakdown 223,553,265 (72.4% of total) are White and 38,929,319 are Black (12.6% of total).

 

According to FBI 2011 homicide statistics there were 3172 White homicide victims by White perpetrators. Of those 3172 there were 2630 White perpetrators against White victims (or 1.76% of White population). But the ratio between perpetrator and victim among Whites is much larger, viz. 83%.

 

Black perpetrator homicides against White victims are in the numbers (448 – Black) and of course the total victims of Whites which again is 3172. This percentile ratio is 14%. It is my opinion the disparity is made vis-à-vis the high Black crime rate and the greater population among the White majority. The thing that seals this disparity is the Black on Black murder rate. The total number of Black victims of homicide was 2695 back in 2011. The number of perpetrators of Black committed homicides is 2,447. The Black on Black percentage is 91% according to the numbers supplied by the FBI.

 

When a small town policed department with a significant Black population looks at the statistics of the volatility of Black crime, police officers don’t really care on social explanations from either the Left or Right on how Black-American and crime seem to coexist in an alarming manner. AND when the police department is made up of largely White police officers that either show a propensity to use racist attitudes to dispense law enforcement among Black Communities there will be mutual distrust in the motives behind actions observed by White officers and Black residents.

 

It could be some time until the public receives the details that led to Darren Wilson shooting Michael Brown. Nonetheless the Lamestream Media were in unison to place on blame of police brutality straight on Officer Darren Wilson. Why? The reason is because Lamestream reporters descended on Ferguson to find some eyewitnesses because the Ferguson Police Department refused to release details while an ongoing investigation was occurring. Of the course the Black Community interpreted that standard procedure as a cover-up for yet another incident of police brutality that resulted in the death of a Black 18 year old recent High School graduate.

 

The so-called witnesses probably filled more with rumor and innuendo from cop-hating Black companions of Michael Brown either stretched the truth of what they allegedly saw or simply downright lied. After Zimmerman was found not guilty of a racist inspired murder of Trayvon Martin, the Press was more than willing to receive so-called eyewitness accounts that placed Wilson in a negative light and Brown in a positive angelic light. I suspect the Press assumption that Zimmerman was found not guilty back of the lack of actual eyewitnesses other than reviewers of 911 calls and the perceptions of people behind closed doors. Basically Zimmerman’s jury had to sift through Prosecutor and Defense mutual character assassinations to come to a verdict was either guilty or guilty without any reason of doubt. Regardless of the Lamestream Media convicting Zimmerman with words before a jury verdict, it was quite inevitable for a not guilty verdict under the rules of innocent or conviction according to the U.S. Constitution.

 

So when stories began to emerge that conflicted the Brown-murder eyewitnesses’ claim he was shot fleeing with his hands up in the air. The other chain of events reported is that Michael Brown was belligerently walking down the middle of the street refusing Wilson’s order to go to the curb which led to Wilson exiting his car to arrest Brown. As Wilson attempted to place Brown in the squad car Brown began to defiantly beat Wilson in the face after being pulled himself into car by Brown. The police account is Brown acted as if he was reaching for Wilson’s gun but Wilson manages to remove himself from Brown beating his face in. At which time Wilson upholstered his gun telling Brown to surrender. Rather than submitting Brown charged the already face beaten Wilson resulting in the gun being shot six times into the six-foot four-inches of Michael Brown’s body. Depending who read the fatal shot being in Brown’s neck or head.

 

Somebody is lying – either Brown fled arms raised as the Lamestream Media initially reported or Brown charged Wilson in defiance with the Officer’s gun being shot six times of an extremely violent (NOT GENTLE) giant who acted in a homicidal manner. Whichever story is correct convicts or exonerates Wilson no matter the Officer’s racial prejudice – if any.

 

It seems a Left-Right media fracas is emerging along the lines of whose story is the truth about how much physical harm that Darren Wilson received from Brown leading to Wilson shooting Brown.

 

Some initial digging by the Blogger Gateway Pundit reported that Wilson’s orbital (eye) socket was broken by Brown. CNN investigative reporting dismissed the Gateway Pundit story as false. Since the Ferguson incident has become international news British news sources have gotten involved in the investigative reporting for their readers. So it is ironic that the British Daily Mail makes an effort to summarize the Gateway Pundit vs. CNN reporting:

 

·         Officer Darren Wilson did not suffer a broken eye socket as a result of his deadly confrontation, according to latest reports

 

·         On Tuesday it was reported that he had suffered an ‘orbital blowout fracture’

 

·         The officer was taken to a hospital with a badly swollen face following the shooting on August 9, but x-rays came back negative for any serious injury

 

·         Earlier reports had claimed that the officer was almost knocked unconscious by Brown’s blows

 

·         Only six arrests were logged overnight in Ferguson on Thursday as the town witnessed a more peaceful night

 

Officer Darren Wilson did not suffer a broken eye socket as a result of his deadly confrontation with unarmed Ferguson, Missouri, teenager Michael Brown, according to latest reports.

 

In recent days, reports had emerged stating that Wilson, 28, was badly beaten and left with serious facial injuries following the fatal shooting in the St Louis suburb, including an eye socket fracture.

 

On Tuesday, The Gateway Pundit reported that the officer had suffered an ‘orbital blowout fracture’.


But CNN reported on Thursday that although the officer was taken to a hospital with a badly swollen face following the shooting on August 9, x-rays came back negative for any serious injury.

 

Earlier reports had claimed that the officer was almost knocked unconscious by Brown’s blows, according to the source.


A police source told Fox: ‘The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side. He was beaten very severely.’

 

The source continued: ‘They ignored him [Wilson] and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move. They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face.’


A police source has confirmed to MailOnline that Wilson was taken to hospital and treated for facial injuries sustained during the Brown incident but would not elaborate on the severity or nature of those injuries.

 

Last week, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Wilson had suffered swelling to the side of his face but gave few details of the injuries.

 

Wilson, a six-year veteran of the Ferguson force with a clean record, has not been arrested or charged with any crime.

 

He is on paid leave pending the outcome of the investigation and is under 24-hour guard after death threats were aimed at him.

 

Wilson is ‘traumatized, scared for his life and his family’ along with being deeply concerned that a grand jury, which met for the first time on Wednesday, will make an example out of him, the source told Fox.


Daily Mail has more including photos and videos in this story (Police officer who shot Michael Brown did NOT suffer a broken eye socket but he did go to hospital with a swollen face after deadly altercation; By DAVID MCCORMACK; Mail Online; 9/21/14 17:26 EST – Updated 9/22/14 1:02 EST)

 

Gateway Pundit is sticking with their original story:

 

On Tuesday The Gateway Pundit reported from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.

 

Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

 

 

Now this…
The Gateway Pundit confirmed from a third local source close to Wilson that Officer Darren Wilson did indeed suffer a broken eye socket.

 

 

This morning [i.e. 9/22/14] The Washington Post also reported that Officer Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket–

 

CNN really needs to be more responsible with such sensitive information. READ ENTIRETY (NOW THERE ARE FOUR SOURCES: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered Fractured Eye Socket; By Jim Hoft; Gateway Pundit; 9/22/14 9:17 AM)

 

And finally I am excerpting a One Citizen Speaking post that fairly well expresses my opinion on the shooting … so far. I say so far because like I said public data will not occur until the Ferguson Police or whoever ends up in charge of the investigation releases them. That might not happen until after a murder trial is imposed on Darren Wilson because after all – the Lamestream Media, professional race baiters and much of the Black Community are still calling for Darren Wilson blood.

 

Enough is enough!

 

I am tired of seeing the mainstream media feature black racists, agitators, communists, and self-serving race-baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson spouting nonsense that defies common sense and offends the sensibilities.

 

One, Michael Brown’s death was self-inflicted the moment he decided to challenge authority and present his 6’4” 292-pound body as an existential, in-your-face, threat to Officer Darren Wilson. There appears to be no intent on the part of the police officer to do anything except get two idiots who were walking down the middle of a street back on the curb.

 

Two, the outrage over the release of convenience store crime photos showing someone appearing to be Michael Brown in a strong-arm burglary of a convenience store in the proximity of the fatal encounter. Various sources have confirmed that it was Brown and his companion that took a box of cigars out of the convenience store without payment – and it became strong-arm burglary (rather than shoplifting) the minute he attempted to intimidate the clerk with his physical presence and put his hands on the clerk. This is relevant because the first things defense attorneys will demand is the police officer’s record including any use of force complaints – no matter how old. This is to establish a pattern and practice of using unjustified force.

 

Three, the police officer may not have known about the theft from the convenience store, so he was just hassling someone for “walking while black.” Not only were the two suspects walking down the middle of the street (an infraction), but they also refused the lawful orders of a police officer to “get out of the street.” But why this is a bogus issue is common sense. While the police officer may have not known – or possibly suspected — that a more serious crime had been committed, Michael Brown certainly was aware of his criminal acts, and that may have been motivation for his assault on the officer. Yes, there is little or no doubt – including medical treatment records – that the officer was injured during the altercation.

 

Four, the idea that “unarmed” equals innocent, defenseless, or incapable of causing great bodily injury, is an outright lie. Here is a recent case in Los Angeles when an “unarmed” domestic violence suspect assaulted an officer that resulted in grave bodily injury …

 

 

Five, that the mainstream media took the word of an unfiltered, unvetted thug who was there in the convenience store at the time of the strong-arm robbery over the presumption of innocence of a police officer until he was proven guilty or facts to the contrary surfaced was disgusting and un-American. This thug’s narrative that Michael Brown was shot in the back while trying to surrender appears to be suspect by the preliminary autopsy notes of noted forensic pathologist Michael Baden who noted that all of the shots appeared to come from the front.

 

 

Six, that Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder would attempt to enter a local police matter and spin the story for political advantage – places the officer at much greater risk of over-zealous prosecution and the conjuring-up of evidence that doesn’t exist or that may have alternative explanation. We have seen a number of Obamacons openly thumb their nose at the American justice system to gin-up a media-worthy event or political result. I do not believe Attorney General Eric Holder is honest and ethical – or can be trusted with this inquiry.

 

Seven, that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has somehow gained wisdom and enlightenment to put forth the following piece in Time Magazine is to demonstrate why progressive socialist democrats are bereft of common sense and are perhaps the most dangerous among us …

 

 

Atrocity? A thug apparently attacks a police officer after committing a criminal act and is shot dead – and that’s an atrocity? Just another act of systemic racism? An example of class warfare? In what alternative universe does a basketball player, albeit a champion basketball player, have access to all of the facts and comes to the conclusion we are viewing an atrocity, another act of systemic racism and class warfare? This is an example of the clear and present danger idiots who have gained some measure of celebrity pose to society when they opine on social events.

 

Eight, a peaceful protest ends being peaceful when Molotov cocktails are used or shots are fired. It doesn’t matter what group initiates the hostile action, the police cannot allow anyone, peaceful or not, to remain at risk in the area. To do so would be police malfeasance.

 

Nine, to allow looting, rioting, and the destruction of private property in order to prevent further rioting or to avoid appearing racist is wrong.

 

Ten, when you hear “no justice, no peace” who are hearing the words of racists, activists, and others who are willing to condemn and convict someone without knowing the facts. …

 

Eleven, and if you want to see a case of blatant self-promotion from the mother of another thug, you need go no farther than the liberal Time Magazine piece by Trayvon Martin’s mother.

 

 

I hate that you and your family must join this exclusive yet growing group of parents and relatives who have lost loved ones to senseless gun violence. Of particular concern is that so many of these gun violence cases involve children far too young. But Michael is much more than a police/gun violence case; Michael is your son. …

 

Further complicating the pain and loss in this tragedy is the fact that the killer of your son is alive, known, and currently free. In fact, he is on paid administrative leave. <Source>

 

Excuse me! Is this the mother who was looking for a big payday from the death of her son – even before Zimmerman was charged with a crime? Is this the innocent child that was visiting his father while serving a ten-day suspension from school? A man-child killed due to a self-initiated confrontation with a neighborhood watch captain that did everything right when he called the police and was then attacked by the physically imposing Trayvon Martin?

 

She didn’t lose her son to senseless gun violence, her son precipitated the confrontation by attacking George Zimmerman and forcing him to use lethal force to save his life.

 

Her statement that …

 

 

Bottom line …

The racists, race-baiters, race-hustlers, and agitators don’t give a damn about Michael Brown or those in the Ferguson community. They are there for self-promotion and possibly a payday. It pains me to see a community suddenly fall prey to these race-mongering bastards – and I include President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, Governor Jay Nixon, and the other political asswipes who are attempting to spin the story for political advantage. As for the communist rabble-rousers like the New Black Panther Party, one wonders why some in the black community – including law enforcement authorities – have not demanded that they be charged with a crime in rally a crowd to call for Officer Wilson’s death.

 

The progressive socialist democrats are continuing to divide America into … READ ENTIRETY (FERGUSON: POLICE OFFICER DARREN WILSON HOSED BY BLACK RACISTS, AGITATORS, AND PROGRESSIVE MEDIA? By Steve the One Citizen Speaking; 8/19/14 04:49 AM)

 

JRH 8/24/14 (Hat Tip: Noisy Room)

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Other Sources I examined:

 

Breitbart Big Government: ORIGINAL WITNESSES’ ‘HANDS UP’ BROWN STORIES FALLING APART

 

Gulag Bound: ‘There’s an Epidemic of Racial Violence in America, Alright;’ Bill Whittle on Black Racism

 

VIDEO – Truth Revolts Originals: BILL WHITTLE: FERGUSON AND THE REAL RACE WAR

 

 

The Raw Story: CNN source ‘unequivocally’ disputes report that Ferguson officer suffered broken bone

 

Hot Air: Fox News source: Wilson was “beaten very severely” before shooting Michael Brown

 

Walid Shoebat Accusers use Half-Truth Data to Condemn Him


Walid Shoebat 2

John R. Houk

© September 21, 2012

 

I just read a comment on my post “Kamal Saleem is all about Christianity even it Insults Islam”. I have two primary blogs that I post at: SlantRight 2.0 and NCCR. The comment was posted at the NCCR blog. The commenter identifies himself as Ali Sina Goldenberg. I am fairly certain the name is a pseudonym. The name is a combination of a famous (or infamous depending on if you are a Muslim or not) ex-Muslim from Faith Freedom International which is an expose Islam website. “Goldenberg” suggests a Jewish familial background. So the irony is the mixture of an ex-Muslim atheist and a Jewish familial name.

 

The commenter wanted to correct my thoughts on those involved on producing the Mohammed Movie that the Obama Administration blames for all the attacks on U.S. Embassies across the Muslim dominated world. I think the Commenter could have better used a different post in which I address the Mohammed Movie more directly.  Here is the NCCR post in which in part I talk about the Mohammed Movie producers: Islam Insults Christianity. (SlantRight 2.0 version)

 

 

The post the Commenter decided to correct me with focuses on ex-terrorist turned Christian Kamal Saleem. Perhaps the Commenter chose the Saleem post because of his assertion that he is an ex-terrorist. Evidently the Commenter associates Kamal Saleem with Walid Shoebat. Shoebat also claims to be an ex-Muslim terrorist with a Palestinian pedigree. There are many pundits out there that accuse Shoebat of being a hoaxster making a living on a false pedigree of terrorist converted to Christianity and dedicated to exposing the darker side of Islam. I am not one of those that accuse Shoebat of being a fake AND I have listened to Kamal Saleem and he is definitely a man anointed to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

The most famous pundit that I am aware of that is also a slanted right writer is Debbie Schlussel:

 

[TO MY READERS: I originally wrote the column below in February. But I sat on it and didn’t publish it because I feel bad about exposing even this fraud and creep, Walid Shoebat, despite the fact that he’s plagiarized from me and harassed me under a fake name using his own e-mail address, and despite the fact that his equally shady manager, Keith Davies, fits a similar bill and has–along with Shoebat–taken to trashing me.


But now that The Jerusalem Post has also exposed the fraudulence and fakery of Mr. Shoebat, I’ve decided I cannot remain silent on who he really is and his behavior, any longer. After harassing me, he tried to appear with me at a 9/11 event in Dearborn, and I realized I can no longer hold back. I’ve thought long and hard about it, but it must be done. The record must be set straight
.]

Years ago, when I first heard of Walid Shoebat–the man who claims to have been a Palestinian Islamic terrorist–I liked his story. Since then, I praised him in more than one entry on this site. That was a mistake.

 

In the back of my mind, I always doubted his story. It’s not that I don’t believe Muslim terrorists can convert to Christianity and see the error of their ways. I personally know of a scant few who have, indeed, done that. And there are several former Muslims–Ayan Hirsi Ali (never a terrorist) comes to mind–and enlightened Arabs who are great orators with an important message so many more need to hear.

It’s that I simply didn’t find Shoebat credible. And his behavior toward me is that of an unstable, insecure man who is upset that his shaky claims are being doubted. It’s a case of trusting my instincts, and my instincts told me this man oozing arrogance, bravado, swagger, and not much else was a fraud–that this was a business for him, showmanship. And he never provided a shred of proof that he did what he said he did in his former life. (Debbie Schlussel; Excerpted from “Enough, Walid Shoebat: Why is Sean Hannity’s Fake Terrorist Harassing Me?” September 16, 2008, – 11:34 am)

 

Schlussel is not a happy camper with Shoebat. She even uses the most conservative newspaper in Jerusalem as a source.

 

Back in 2008 I examined Schlussel’s accusations against Shoebat (and Kamal Saleem was included a bit). In 2008 I decided to err on the side of believing Shoebat although I did admit that there were some of Schlussel’s accusations not answered adequately by Shoebat. Then in 2011 I posted information that discredited CNN fake accusations because a significant of the CNN info was just plain false: “Defending Walid Shoebat against CNN and Muslim Apologists.”

 

I feel obligated to take another look at Shoebat now that the Commenter that identifies himself as Ali Sina Goldenberg question Shoebat’s integrity in reporting the Mohammed Movie story. Below Walid Shoebat and Keith Davies answer point by point their accusers and I have to tell you their rebuttal works for me.

 

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

By Walid Shoebat (about the author)

February 6, 2008 at 14:20:15

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This article is published by opednews.com as an accomodation (sic) to allow Mr. Shoebat respond to an article about him by Eileen Fleming. Unfortunately, our website does not support arabic script, so you will see, where it was used, meaningless characters. (opednews.com)

 

The wisest man in history once said “be good to those who despise you.” In this article I will follow this instruction and personally thank Eileen Fleming who wrote for the Arabisto.com published also on OpeEdNews.com 1 in a smear campaign against myself and the United States Air Force for inviting me to speak against terrorism.

 

Fleming blames the Air Force academy for not doing due-diligence about me since she just came up with damning evidence about my credibility as a terrorist. But before I present this case, two questions that beg answers:

 

1—How could the Air Force be responsible for not examining her ‘facts’ especially since she presented her article after this invitation was known publicly?

 

2—Why should anyone have a problem fighting Islamic terrorism? Unless of course, such people cloak this evil phenomenon as a proper revolution to thwart the ‘evil’ occupiers like the United States and Israel.

 

Now to my case, I have been denied even my identity, to many I was a “Christian Lebanese Falangist,” a person who “never lived in Palestine,” “was never Muslim,” “no one knows him in Palestine,” “nothing can be confirmed of his origin, name, or identity,” “a fabrication,” “liar,” “imposter,” “Zionist paid agent,” “doing it for the money,” “Islamophobe disguised as X-terrorist,” and of course “racist.”

 

Yet it doesn’t matter what my critics do, it always benefits the cause of the truth since for years I have been confronted by media and Muslims to provide evidence to prove my identity, origin, Islamic connection and terror credentials which I shunned away. Now the claims regarding my credentials and the due-diligence that anyone needs is in Fleming’s own damning article. She was the reporter I prayed for years to come through, she obtained testimonies from my own Muslim family. Now I have a solid confirmation to my identity, origin, trouble with violence, connection to terrorist relatives and even imprisonment verification. Now I can put such accusations all behind.

 

THANK YOU EILEEN FLEMING.

 

The common phrase from the story of Joseph in Quran 12:26 and as we commonly say in the Middle East وشهد شاهد من اهلها “a family witness” that vindicated Joseph of lying should now apply to my case. While Fleming stated in her half done investigation article:

 

“Walid’s entire biography is a manufactured fabrication. His handlers have taken one point and have twisted it and built up a fictional story.”

 

But before I poke so many holes in her article including her valued witnesses which included only one name–Kamal Younis. I do believe that Fleming was honest on one point, that she did interview a few family members of mine since Kamal could have not known many details of my life in the U.S. But why the rest of her witnesses never gave their names?

 

Well, there are two reasons for this:

 

1—They fear retribution for being related to this infidel Walid Shoebat.

 

2—They fear retribution from American law for crimes committed by certain family members in the U.S. as you will see.

 

Let’s start with Kamal Younis’ testimony who is the brother of the prominent attorney Jawad Younis جواد يونس who defended Abu Zubaydah, a Palestinian living in Pakistan who is believed to be a key aide to Mr Bin Laden. Jawad was convicted by Israel in the good old days for his involvement and support for terrorism with the P.L.O. Mr.. Jawad Younis is known to have only one hand. His other hand was made out of plastic, but it didn’t have a hook.

 

Was Jawad a pirate as well?

 

Well, not exactly, his arm was blown off in his youth while messing with explosives. What was Jawad doing playing with explosives? I leave this to your imagination. Of course, they would claim that Jews planted booby traps in fountain pens to maim Arab kids. Jews would also poison candy, later this evolved that Jews lace Cadbury chocolate with Mad Cow disease. Jawad Younis the brother of Kamal Younis later becomes a prominent figure in exile in Jordan, yet the leopard doesn’t change it’s spots, Jawad as an attorney that defends Al-Qaeda operatives and even send a letter alongside of other delegates to congratulate Nasrallah the terror king pin of Hizbullah for his attacks on Israel.

 

So why didn’t Ms. Fleming contact the other side before publishing her story? Well it’s simple, she knows that I would have been glad to offer evidence to thrash her dishonest reporting which she knows she would never publish, but I will, point by point:

 

1—“His bio claims that his grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar (chieftain) of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem. Beit Sahour is adjacent to Bethlehem, not a part of Bethlehem.”

 

Had Fleming checked the Municipality of Bethlehem’s official website she would see the official statement made by Bethlehem’s municipality:

 

تعتبر بيت لحم مركزاً لقضاء يحمل اسمها ويضم مدينتين هما بيت جالا وبيت ساحور

In English “Bethlehem is considered to be a jurisdiction that it’s name [Bethlehem] holds and includes two cities—Beit Jala and Beit Sahur.” 2

 

In other words, Beit Sahur as well as Beit Jala are also Bethlehem. Is Fleming’s article correct and Bethlehem’s Municipality in error?

 

Yet this is a minor card, the rest of her deck of cards will fall. So one out, 17 more points to go.

 

2—“Walid’s bio claims his grandfather was a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler. Walid’s grandfather never even met him and was a peaceful man.”

 

Did I ever say that my grandfather (sic) was not a “peaceful man”? my book which was written way before Fleming’s silly discoveries stated “My grandfather liked everyone, and he had no problem selling land to Jewish or Christian immigrants. The village had much land with only a handful of families that immigrated in the last decade prior to the 1948 war.”

 

3 Kamal’s statement also confirms what I stated in my book, Beit Sahur had a handful of families. A land that was empty prior to my great grand father (sic). Jews never stole such lands, they bought them. My grand father (sic) sold land to the Jewish National Fund as did many prominent Arab leaders. 4 This fact is so well documented in Fasl Al-Maqal, owned by Arab-Israeli parliament deputy Azmi Beshara. Why didn’t my family deny this? He sold a parcel called Umm Al-Asafeer which was later sent back to the family after Oslo. Why did her article never mention this? Or any denial of this by my family? It’s because everyone knew it’s true. Their leader and Mukhtar sold land to Zionists.

 

I should also know the history of my grand father (sic) more then Mr. Kamal Younis (full name Kamal Younis Jum’a) Fleming should check his I.D and be amazed that I know what’s in it, yet he confirmed that my grand father (sic) was the Mukhtar of the Muslims. The land sale to the Jewish National Fund will prove that my grand father (sic) was considered a traitor. Abdul Qader Al-Husseni was appointed by Haj Amin (Adolf Hitler’s puppet) to execute so many chieftains (Mukhtars) in the whole region. Anyone that was considered peaceful or had connection with the Jews were to be executed. Of course, the Hussenis sold land to Jews yet they were immune. My grand father (sic) was one of these who escaped the massacre due to his connection with the family and with his father in law, my great grand father (sic). This story was known in the family and well documented on page 44 in my book. Many were not so lucky. This massacre between 1936 and 1938 carried out by Husseni’s men is so well known and well documented which included Sheikh Daoud Ansari (Imam of Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Ali Nur el Khattib (Al Aqsa Mosque), Sheikh Nusbi Abdal Rahim (Council of Muslim Religious Court), Sheikh Abdul el Badoui (Acre, Palestine), Sheikh El Namouri (Hebron), and Nasr El Din Nassr (Mayor of Hebron). Between Feb. 1937 and Nov. 1938, eleven Mukhtars (community leaders) and their entire families were slain by Amin al Husseni’s men.5

 

Does Fleming desire to deny all this? If Mukhtars were proven beyond doubt to have been executed, and my family never denied this, would you not consider it logical that my grand father (sic) would be on such a hit list? He had a mock trial in Al-khader by Abdul Qader Al-Husseini and was rescued by his father in law Abdullah Ali Awadallah.

 

3—“Walid was born in September of 1960 in Beit Sahour after his American mother and father returned there from America…His older sister and brother were born in the USA”

 

This proves beyond doubt that I was born in Beit Sahur-Bethlehem as I claimed and all the denials of my origin were bogus. In fact I was born the first day my mother arrived, in a lowly place near the Shepherd’s Fields, lower than were Jesus was born (thank God). All this could be verified. In fact, Daniel Pipes of Middle East Forum who reads fluent Arabic examined my birth certificate himself. This can be found on:

 

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/27999

 

Had she cared to verify this she would never have published her article. If she doubts this, I will be willing to resubmit these documents to a trusted government agency.

 

That with many documents to prove not only my connection with that land, but my American family’s connection with Winston Churchill. These can be proven to such extent that Fleming would be ashamed of her flimsy article.

 

4—“and the family lived in Jericho until 1968, then in Saudi Arabia for two years then returned to Beit Sahour.”

 

This proves my testimony having lived during the 1967 Six Day War in Jericho as written in my books.

 

In fact I can prove that Younis has incorrect chronology, I lived in Saudi Arabia were my father worked for the Arab-American Oil Co (ARAMCO) in Ras-Tannura in 1962, then moved to Jericho.

 

5—“In 1976, his sister Mona was coming home from school with her friends and were stopped and beaten up by Israeli soldiers, they nearly broke Mona’s back. This made Walid very angry and shortly thereafter he attended his first demonstration against the occupation.”

 

This incident is correct the typical exaggeration that my sister’s back was nearly broken is false, she had a minor bruise while participating in a demonstration. Since my family’s own testimony proves that my sister is a United States citizen (she was born in the U.S.) I had arranged for my sister Mona to join an airlift from Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War since she was an American, her husband refused to allow her exit from Saudi Arabia. Such ownership of women prohibits them to even go to there (sic) country of origin. Don’t forget, it took my mother 35 years to escape the hell-hole called the Middle East. Would Fleming accept my mother’s testimony? Or will she accept the testimony of terror supporters instead?

 

6—“ In 1977 Walid was caught distributing Palestinian flags and was arrested and held for about two weeks in Mascubia [Russian Compound] Prison, until his mother went to the Embassy and got him released.”

 

This proves that I was in prison as I always claimed. All the rumors that my story cannot be collaborated do not hold any water. Did Fleming, the left wing anti-Christian reporter accept Zionist bribes to do this article and gain me what I have been looking for?

 

Fleming’s article is in fact my ace-in-the-hole. If I am not vindicated from my Zionist bribes accusation, does that mean that Fleming could and should be accused of accepting such bribes to do her story? I can be almost positive that you will later find accusations against Fleming for attesting to my family connection. When that happens, would Fleming join us to fight the half truths she reports?

 

7— “But, when he was in jail he met someone who invited him to join a group against Israel”

 

This further collaborates that I was recruited by Mahmud Al-Mughrabi a known bomb-maker and was in prison as I claimed. Had Fleming did what she accused the Air Force of not doing (proper due diligence) and checked on files in the Russian Compound prison to find both myself, Al-Mughrabi and Abu-Sneineh who served these short term prison time, she would have realized her stupidity to trust and eat out of a pigsty. Let’s not forget, Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi was a very close relative of Dalal Al-Mughrabi who killed more then 30 Israelis in a bus operation.

 

8—“In 1977 Walid and his friends put packages behind a bank, but there were no explosives in it.”

 

Does it make any sense that my entire family since 1977 remembers such and (sic) uneventful event of us placing empty boxes on the roof of a bank?

 

Also, had there been no explosion, why then would the Israelis make arrests? Muhammad El-Atrash was arrested for being close to the area when the explosion happened on top of the roof.. Nidal Shoebat my cousin should testify to this (if he wishes to be honest). Nidal who was an ambulance doctor was also injured when Israelis killed the most wanted terrorist Muhammad Abiyat (also spelled Abayat). I can supply these records which were documented by the United Nations.

 

Why would my family want to testify that Nidal was also a terrorist and risk the Israelis to go after him? Especially since his brother Eiad is wanted by the United States of America for money laundering and for a major fraud scandal of millions of dollars and is currently in hiding from U.S. authorities. This alongside other family members who drained by fraud the social security system collecting Social Security checks while living overseas by manipulating their identities. This is all linked to financial terrorism. Even their citizenships is fraud. Eiad who claimed to be a Mexican Farm worker and applying for citizenship should not be granted citizenship. He was not Mexican but an employee of Cal-Trans and a financial terrorist.

 

Everyone in my Muslim family supports the ideology of Islamic terrorism.

 

Does it make sense in a Palestinian culture of death and terror not to deny certain things?

 

Also, why didn’t my family deny that my other cousin Raed Khalil Awadallah was killed on his way to Ben Yehuda Street to plant a bomb? He too was supposedly innocent and the Israelis sold his inner body parts in the black market after killing him. The intricate lying and manipulating evidence from a people that even the Shahid’s dead body falls off the coffin and walks in on it’s own accord and back in the coffin in a funeral’s precession. All captured on film and all with support of the entire community of a known lie. Is this the type of people who Fleming trusts for a testimony?

 

My family also never denied that his brother Mahmud Khalil Awadallah was sentenced to life for planting bombs, then released by an international deal? These facts are easily obtained.

 

Did Fleming do any due-diligence on any of my accusers?

 

Or only on me?

 

Why the persistence to deny my terror connection? I confess. I did it. Why insist that my confession is a lie? Yet not examine my family who do not confess anything and the evidence of their crimes is overwhelming? Does she care to examine these facts and publish them? She can be my guest.

 

Do I fear the words of slanderers, thieves, and liars? Does Fleming care how she aids and abets the cause of terrorists? Would she include these in her article, or even apologize for her lack of due-diligence?

 

9—“Walid came to the U.S. in 1978”

 

This also proves my claim in all my books, I came to the U.S in 1978.

 

10—“met an Afghani friend and they went into business together, but it didn’t work out, so he moved to Chicago”

 

This also shows the lack of chronology, this is in reverse and wrong. I left to Chicago between 1980-1981, my business with the Afghan was not a failure which was in 1992 way later. I moved to Chicago after leaving my Jewish wife.

 

11—“he moved to Chicago in 1981 where many cousins live and asked for help. He went to Loop College [now Harold Washington College] and was appointed as a foreign student advisor; a position offered him so he could pay his tuition.”

 

This proves my Chicago connection just as I stated in my books. It also proves that there is a Loop College, would the Muslim Student Association of Michigan Ann-Arbor University send an apology for passing leaflets denying my story since they never found a Loop College or a Jamal Said?

 

This also proves that I was a counselor for the Arab Students as I claimed. I believe all this came from Mr. Kamal’s nephew Adnan Younis who was with me during our activism. This also can be collaborated from Mary Edwards (currently Mary Edwards Wertsch), a reporter and a girl friend who served on the team to defend Ziad Abu Eian, a terrorist who killed 3 Israelis, also James Zughbi the director of the Arab-American Institute was on that committee to help this terrorist who was later extradited to Israel to serve his sentence after loosing (sic) his court case in the U.S. Ziad was later released through a deal, then evolved to become in charge of the Palestinian prison system of Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas. Can anyone imagine an inmate and a terrorist running a jail system of the entire Palestinian Authority?

 

12—“The repo man took Walid’s truck and after that he went back to California”

 

The repo man took the truck while I was staying with Mary Edwards in her apartment by the Wrigley Field. Mary was helping on a defense case for Ziad Abu Eian the terrorist.

 

13—“he went back to California. He met a Palestinian girl there and they got married and had a son. But, he beat his wife and that marriage broke up.”

 

Wrong chronology again, I left to Chicago from California and left behind my Jewish wife whom I was abusive to. This is documented in my book “Why We Want To Kill You.” I later married a Palestinian girl from Beit Sahur, this can be proven. Also, I never beat my Arab wife, only the Jewish wife got her fair share of Muslim style beatings. Had I beaten my Arab wife she would have easily won the court case in California when we divorced. In fact, the court awarded my current wife Maria the child and found the pure and perfect Palestinian Muslim girl guilty of abandoning her infant. All this can be verified from court records which I have. In fact I have won every case that I was involved in. If I entertain the thought of suing Fleming for slander, I would probably win. For she wrote:

 

“Walid’s entire biography is a manufactured fabrication. His handlers have taken one point and have twisted it and built up a fictional story.”

 

In fact, I can prove that her story is the one twisted in several areas. Does Flemming care to challenge me? Would she take a challenge from a seasoned and experienced X-terrorist? Will she dare debate me? Dialogue? I seriously doubt it.

 

14—“Walid’s maternal grandparents were wealthy and when they died Walid was to share the inheritance with his sister and brother, but his siblings never received a dime from their grandparent’s estate. And, while his own father was in a nursing home in California Walid took his mother and moved far away from him to another city.”

 

So I inherited so much money? Why then accuse me of doing this for money?

Would Flemming care to investigate and report my American connection? She would find that without a shadow of doubt that my American family connects with a close friendship with Winston Churchill.

 

From my American side—Anti-Hitler

 

From my Arab side—Pro-Hitler

 

Which choice should I make Ms. Flemming?

 

The claim that I took my mother away from my father is inaccurate, this could easily be proven. In fact, my father was denied by his own family after he stabbed Abu-Issa Al-Atrash and opened his stomach. The family publicly abandoned my father and called me to take him to the states. This was the rescue of my mother who was finally able to come home to her beloved country after 35 years of exile and spousal abuse that could be documented in horror books. Should my mother remain with her tormentor? If my father was so peaceful, why did all his brothers abandon him? Even his Muslim son (my brother) abandoned him and refused to help his parents to come to the U.S. I was stuck with all the expenses, I even paid for the damage he caused back in Beit Sahur.

 

The truth is difficult.

 

In fact, I should speak to the Air Force, after all my brother was in the Air Force who trained his Muslim daughter not to salute the American Flag. Why? Because she was told by his Gaza born wife that her country was Palestine, not America. This is the shame that I abandoned.

 

15—“and when they [Walid’s grand parents (sic)] died”

 

My grand father (sic) died. My American grand mother is still living at the age of 94 which also could be verified, may God give her longevity. This proves that Flemming’s witnesses are half-cocked.

 

Here’s the real scoop, the family thinks that since she is an American woman, she should not hold to her wealth and should give it to them before she died. Like a pack of wolves after a frail and weak deer.

 

16—“Walid was to share the inheritance with his sister and brother, but his siblings never received a dime from their grandparent’s estate.”

 

This is typical, the elderly American grand mother (sic) was bombarded by my brother and father continually haranguing the elderly lady who wanted nothing to do with them or any Islamist connection. The Christian side of the family, my mother, grand mother (sic), wife, myself and two children, decided to break up after the threats, spying, and continual insults we received from my father and brother.

 

Now, if someone is still living, how could someone divide their wealth? How can I divide this wealth with my siblings? The woman still lives. What gives these greedy bunch a right to divide someone’s wealth before they die?

 

On the other hand, Fleming failed to contact myself to find out that I have full evidence of land ownership that was stolen by the very people who are complaining. The family offered me an ultimatum—come to Bethlehem Court and denounce my Christian faith, or loose (sic) my land. Does Fleming care to examine my property that was stolen and the inheritance that was denied to me in Bethlehem? I have full documentation—sale deed and land survey.

 

17—“”Walid claimed on CNN that he met Sheikh Jamal and was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and claimed he had been a member of a U.S. sleeper cell terrorist group. All his relatives doubt this greatly, but we do believe he is being paid big money to keep saying bad things about Muslims.”

 

They would not know what happened to me after I left their apartment in Chicago on Lawrence and Kedzy. Adnan Younis was jealous and offended and asked me to move out. Why? Adnan’s girlfriend began to date me instead and he was jealous so he urged the family to ask me to leave. I did, then I left the P.L.O activism to join with Jordanian Ghazi Dhabaybeh, a contact and coordinator of Jamal Said.

 

18—“[Alex] Awad shows problems with his timeline and his poor knowledge of the Christian leaders in Palestine”

 

Would Fleming whose witnesses were lousy keepers of chronology care to share these “problems with his timeline”? There is nothing in either her source clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/issue_pdfs/102/11/News-07-11-09.pdf which I examined in detail, no, not a single line, or in her article to show a single problem with timelines. Does a serious journalist make a claim without providing any evidence? Or maybe Fleming is not a serious journalist.

 

Does she believe Alex Awad who passed newsletters claiming that Israelis are shooting at Beit Jala, yet failing to mention that they were defending Gilo from terrorists who occupied Christian homes in Beit Jala to shoot across the Jewish community of Gilo?

 

Should we believe half truths, and one-sided stories that never gave the other side a chance to challenge the claims she made?

 

Does she or Alex Awad believe in Jesus, the Governor of Judah, The Jewish Messiah? Or the Palestinian Jesus of Alex and Hanan Ashrawi’s own concoction?

 

Fleming states “Discernment and good intelligence is what our troops need, and that is not what they are receiving on February 6, 2008 at the USA Naval Academy, in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in the heart of the western Bible Belt.”

 

Fleming, Alex, or any of her witnesses are welcome to stand against me in a debate over my integrity anytime, either in public or in private, of course after she makes public my article. I doubt they will come forward. For they will only incriminate themselves. Sure I confess my terrorism, yet these deny their support of it. What has been presented proves beyond doubt that:

 

A—That I did live in Beit Sahur-Bethlehem

 

B—I am from an American mother.

 

C—My grand father (sic) was the main chieftain of the Muslims of Beit Sahur-Bethlehem who at his time was dominated by the largest clan “Shoebat” (also spelled Shuaybat), yes there are other minor chieftains.

 

D—That even my name Walid Shoebat is accurate. I realize that in my book it was mistakenly printed by my editor as an assumed name. A fraudulent person would definitely make a name up—I chose not to.

 

E—All the claims of my identity having never lived in “Palestine” being a disguised Falangist and Zionist Jew are bogus, I was telling the truth.

 

So who was the idiot after all?

 

THANK YOU EILEEN FLEMING..

 

1http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_eileen_f_080201_usa_air_force_academ.htm

 

2— [SlantRight Editor: Foot Notes end here at OEN post]

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CNN SMEAR CAMPAIGN—THE MISSING FACTS

What Anderson Cooper did not know

 

Walid Shoebat

July 2011

WalidShoebat.com

 

Anderson Cooper on CNN interviewed his investigative reporter Andrew Griffin regarding the credibility of Walid Shoebat advising Homeland Security.

 

But what Anderson Cooper did not know during this interview were THE FACTS:

 

LIE #1: In Mr. Griffin’s article he wrote: “Neither Shoebat nor his business partner provided any proof of Shoebat’s involvement in terrorism, despite repeated requests”.

 

FACT: There were no repeated requests. What is damaging to CNN’s credibility is that we have all the email exchanges to prove that every request was answered and The Shoebat Foundation did respond to all of CNN’s emails and was even offered several documents including credible witnesses to validate Mr. Shoebat’s account:

 

“We will be willing to provide copies of documents that will answer your questions and witnesses on the condition that you guarantee they are protected and no names or photos or the contents of such documents will be made public. We will have you review these in person”. (see first email below) CNN never complied.

 

LIE #2: CNN claimed that they investigated Mr. Shoebat and had asked several agencies about Shoebat’s past.

 

FACT: On Anderson Cooper 360, Griffin never released any interviews with any official agency; no interviews with any police official, government officials or any recorded calls or any memos or any email correspondence (which we did) that validate any investigation took place with anyone.

 

Unless this is done CNN has no case.

 

We have also learned thru unimpeachable sources that CAIR operatives secretly worked with CNN in carrying out this political assassination of Mr. Shoebat.

 

Additionally, if CNN released the entire interview between Mr. Griffin and Mr. Shoebat it will destroy the whole claim and prove that CAIR’s input was evident. During the interview on tape Griffin claimed that he investigated Mr. Shoebat and found out that records show he was paid $13,000 and that he never have called Bank Leumi Branch in Bethlehem which today doesn’t even exist.

 

In the interview Griffin simply was repeating an article written by CAIR, which falsely claimed that the Shoebat Foundation was paid $13,000. Anderson Cooper should review the entire interview, which is damaging to CNN. What Griffin did was simply rely on an article written by CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) based on an old article in which 3 x-terrorists were paid $13,000 in an event at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Griffin then changed his story to include the correct amount.

 

Griffin later found out that there was no Bank Leumi branch in Bethlehem to call since that branch was closed in which Griffin changed both stories with Cooper and lied intentionally. Griffin also stated that he checked with the Israeli police in Bethlehem when fact is, there is no Israeli police station in Bethlehem and the Palestinian Authorities would have no such records. Griffin later changed the story to say that he called Bank Leumi in Tel Aviv. Fact is, Bank Leumi in Tel Aviv has no such records either. Anyone can call Bank Leumi’s headquarters in Tel Aviv and check. We called ourselves and there are no records in Bank Leumi that tracks terrorist operations during 1976-1977.

 

LIE #3: Griffin claimed that he searched the Israeli prison records and there was nothing under the name Shoebat.

 

FACT:

 

1) Mr. Shoebat’s imprisonment can easily be verified with a click of a button since Mr. Griffin was not the only one investigating Mr. Shoebat’s prison story. Journalist Eileen Fleming who attempted to debunk Mr. Shoebat’s account on an OpedNews.com story had interviewed Shoebat’s family who confirmed that Mr. Shoebat was indeed in prison: “But, when he was in jail he met someone who invited him to join a group against Israel”. All of CNN’s claims were debunked several times over in the past and its (sic) not the first time this happened.

 

2) Even if Mr. Griffin did check prison records, he was searching the wrong name. Had CNN examined our records that were offered to them, it will prove beyond doubt that Mr. Griffin made an error. When Mr. Shoebat was arrested he turned in his U.S. passport and not his birth certificate or I.D. card. His U.S. passport had a different last name.

 

Mr. Shoebat was born in Bethlehem and since his mother was a U.S. citizen he was under her passport as a child. When he matured he held his own passport, which used his mother’s information, which is not under the name “Shoebat”. We offered to clarify all this to CNN (see same email) on the condition to keep the documents private. CNN refused to offer privacy.

 

3) Mr. Shoebat was not in jail for his bombing operation but for planning civil unrest in which he was released without charge since the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem intervened in the case. He later joined a terror cell in Jerusalem. If Mr. Griffin was searching court cases and terrorism charges, he would not find anything. Yet Griffin talked about not finding court records regarding imprisonment for a terrorism case of a bombing operation in Bethlehem Manger Square.

 

LIE #4: CNN claimed that Walid’s cousin confirms that Walid was never a terrorist

 

FACT: CNN failed to ask Daood Hassaan Shoebat if he had any links to terrorists. He did. How could Daood Shoebat, the uncle of famed terrorist Arin Shoebat and Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat be a credible witness since both terrorists can be verified without a shadow of doubt. Arin Shoebat was the renowned mastermind of the dual Operation in which Issa Bdeir detonated a bomb, killing him along with innocent Jewish civilians. Arin survived, hesitating to kill children, a similar account to that of Walid’s, who published his story years prior to Arin’s activity. Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat is on the list of official martyrs. Anyone can use google translate in Arabic can confirm both links in which these names match 100%.

 

LIE #5: Mr. Griffin claimed that there was never a “firebomb” thrown on Bank Leumi and neither was there anything of that sort in Bethlehem Manger Square [during 1976-1977]

 

FACT: Mr. Shoebat never made any claim that he threw a Molotov cocktail on a bank, which completely debunks Mr. Griffin’s entire investigation. Why would anyone remember such a minor event? Mr. Shoebat had a real time bomb assembled by the notorious terrorist Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi whose account can be completely verified through United Nations reports and news agencies (see Lie #7, Point 1).

 

The most damaging to Mr. Griffin’s story is that there was a bombing at the Bank Leumi in Bethlehem’s Manger Square — as described in Mr. Shoebat’s books. What was not published in Walid’s books was a later research that was also documented by the United Nations. Between December 24 and 27, there were two explosions in that area: “Bethlehem (in Manger Square near the Church of the Nativity)” and “Explosive charge went off outside the local Courthouse 27 December 1977 JP. 2 Jan. 1978 Yediot Aharonot, 2 January 1978.”

 

 

LIE #6: Americans are wasting tax dollars in hiring Mr. Shoebat or x-terrorists to explain terrorism.

 

FACT: Police use X-Drug addicts to expose the mindset of drug users in order to combat the epidemic. Why can’t x-terrorists do the same? In fact, most FBI agents that deal with terrorism were involved on the war on drugs and now are transferred to the war on terror. Muslim terrorists are Muslim and it’s impossible to study the mindset without understanding Islam. This is the whole purpose to CNN’s attack.

 

LIE #7: Mr. Shoebat bills himself as an x-terrorist on the basis of a bombing activity of Bank Leumi.

 

FACT: Mr. Shoebat is rarely billed as an x-terrorist on the basis of only bombing Bank Leumi. Mr. Shoebat’s story is billed on the basis of several proven accounts:

 

1) He was recruited into the PLO by prison cellmate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi – which led to the former’s involvement in a bomb plot that targeted several Bank Leumi branches.

 

Several bombings of Bank Leumi are well documented in the United Nations Reports.

 

Al-Mughrabi [1] was Mr. Shoebat’s prison mate and his PLO recruiter: he sent Walid to bomb the Bank Leumi branch in Bethlehem. After his release from the Masqubiyeh, he was considered enough of a danger that Israel assassinated him on October 1, 1985: Israeli F-15B Eagle war planes, in Operation Wooden Leg, hit Arafat’s Tunisia headquarters in retaliation for the PLO’s murder of Israelis in Larnaca, Cyprus one week earlier. (The assassination mission that killed Al-Mughrabi can be pulled up on video [2] via Al-Jazeera.) Arab sources like Middle East Report lamented his death:

 

In pain and sorrow we learn that our friend Mahmud Al-Mughrabi was killed during the October bombing raid in Tunisia. Mahmud was born in Jerusalem in 1960. By the age of 16 he was under detention 12 times and he was one of the first to speak in public about the methods of interrogation of Palestinian detainees used by the General Security Services in Israel. He then gave his permission to being publicly identified as an informant for the Sunday Times expose of Israeli torture in June 1977. In 1984, he managed to escape to Jordan after years of increasingly marginal existence under steadily deteriorating conditions of military occupation.

 

Famed Egyptian terror-apologist Edward Said spoke of Al-Mughrabi:

 

One of the victims of the Tunis bombing was Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi, born in Jerusalem in 1960, under detention twelve times by the age of 16, one of the informants of The Sunday Times to expose of torture in Israel (19 June, 1977) who “managed to escape to Jordan after years of increasingly marginal existence under steadily deteriorating existence of the Israeli occupation”, according to a memorial notice by Israeli Jewish friends that was repeatedly denied publication in Arab newspapers in East Jerusalem by Israeli military censorship.

 

Al-Jazeera and Said are not “Zionist” sources, but Arab.

 

While Walid’s partner in crime and prison cell mate Mahmoud Al-Mughrabi was denied to have ever existed, he was notorious, very real and quite dangerous. He was a secret correspondent for the British Sunday Times – hired to report alleged tortures in the Russian Compound (Jerusalem Central Prison) and his name was published by the United Nations while privately conducting terror plots.

 

2) Close family ties to high as well as low-ranking terrorists, which can be reasonably proven. Walid was well connected to several terrorist members of his own family whom CNN interviewed—preferring to use these—to collaborate a false claim. Yet such interviews only add to his credibility.

 

A—His cousin was – Areen Ahmad Shoebat – the renowned mastermind of the dual Operation Reshon Letzion in which Issa Bdeir detonated a bomb, killing him along with innocent Jewish civilians. Areen survived, hesitating to kill children, a similar account to that of Walid’s, who published his story years prior to Areen’s activity.

 

B—Walid fled to the United States and was mentored under Jamal Said who is said to be an associate of Abdullah the godfather of Al-Qaeda who later was involved with the I.A.P (Islamic Association of Palestine) a branch of Hamas, which gave birth to CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) which CNN is defending.

 

C—Then we have another cousin, exiled terrorist Jawad Younis who became Abu Zubaydah’s lawyer in absentia. Abu Zubaydah ended up in U.S. custody to later testify against 911 ‘mastermind’ Khalid Sheik Muhammad. Jawad is still an Islamist troublemaker in Jordan and an ardent supporter of Hezbollah:

 

“To His Excellency Mr. Nasrallah Secretary General of Hezbullah the Victorious by the will of Allah …We grip our hands with you, and all the Jihadists for the cause of Allah…as you lunge with your souls for the battle of the [Islamic] nation, to fight the demonic forces of America and Zionism, the sons of the great Satan.” Signed as #4 of this delegation Jawad Younis. (Letter of support to Nassrallah, dated 7/19/2006, published July 27th, 2006)

 

D—Another cousin is Raed Khalil Awadallah Shoebat, killed while attempting to plant a bomb at Ben Yehuda Street. Raed Awadallah Shoebat is on the official martyrs list. Anyone can use google translate from Arabic can confirm all the links in which these names match 100% to be Walid’s relatives.

 

E—Another cousin is Mahmoud Khalil Awadallah Shoebat who was imprisoned for years for his terror activity to later be released in a plea bargain. All the Awadallah Shoebat names provided are within the same household of the CNN witness Mr. Daood Awadallah Shoebat seen lying through his teeth.

 

F—Another cousin Eiad Shoebat, has an arrest warrant by the FBI wanted to major financial fraud suspected to be terror related. This involved contra band, passport fraud and major financial embezzlements that could be related to terrorism. This can be confirmed with the FBI. Homeland Security did all the proper due-diligence that CNN never did.

 

C—Walid’s violent acts included street violence and hand-to-hand confrontations with Israeli forces. On one occasion Walid nearly lynched an Israeli soldier, which also can be confirmed by accessing Israeli news archives on March 18th as well as March 30th 1976. The news broadcaster was Karam Zarour (Oded Zarrai) who broadcast the news item on 8 PM news on the Arabic station on Israeli TV. CNN never accessed the archives.

 

D—Walid’s experience in Chicago being active with the PLO as well as the Muslim Brotherhood prior to the inception of the I.A.P (Islamic Association of Palestine) which later gave birth to CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations). It is for this reason CNN and CAIR attack Mr. Shoebat.

  

It is important that when we examine evidence to avoid character assassinations due to political affiliation. CNN has a liberal agenda and we are conservative. Let us put our affiliations aside and pursue the facts. Will CNN be willing to pursue the facts or is there an agenda in line with CAIR’s?

 

Regardless of the facts, many will still doubt and continue the slander, but for those who do, try to refute a single fact we presented, they can’t.

 

[1] Al-Mughrabi: http://www.moghrabi-jerusalem.com/shohdaaa/mahmoud.htm

 

[2] video: http://rachedarfaoui.over-blog.com/article-36803579.html

 

FROM:

Keith Davies

 

TO:

Lister Tim

Message flagged

Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:23 AM

 

Message body

Tim,

 

>It is my role at CNN to check all reporting for attribution and balance

And it is my roll to protect my client. We will be willing to provide copies of documents that will answer your questions and witnesses on the condition that you guarantee they are protected and no names or photos or the contents of such documents will be made public. We will have you review these in person.

 

In other words, such documents, phone calls to witnesses and names must be used to ONLY verify your quest and does not become part of your coverage. You can have your attorney call mine to iron out the details.

 

I also need to know if you are doubting Mr. Griffin’s claim that he called Bank Leumi. We will not go through a one way street in which you demand information and do not confess your mistakes. Mr. Griffin had made several claims which were proven false. Would you like me to point them all out again?

 

They are on film. Even Kathy Johnson claimed that the chant “To Jerusalem we march” during Egypt’s uprising was in Alexandria. Her attempt to refute the fact was also false; it was in Cairo Tahrir Square as Mr. Shoebat stated on camera. Try to find someone that knows what they are talking about instead of telling me about “attribution and balance”.

 

We have been telling the truth so far and provided you with an initial report and will not continue this unless you agree to our request to protect individuals lives and admit your mistakes.

 

Let me know if you agree and we can cooperate TOGETHER or else we should stop our exchange.

 

Keith Davies

From: “Lister, Tim” <Tim.Lister@turner.com>
To: Keith Davies <lalric3@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

Thank-you for your reply. It is my role at CNN to check all reporting for attribution and balance; and to follow up leads that would ensure the most complete coverage of any story.

 

As regards the incident in Bethlehem in 1978, I note that in 3 – F of your original e-mail, you offer contact details for a journalist who has interviewed eyewitnesses. We would be very grateful for those details so as to be able to make every check possible.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

 


From: Keith Davies [mailto:lalric3@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:26 PM
To: Lister, Tim
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

 

Dear Mr. Lister,

 

Thanks for your inquiry regarding the vetting process of Mr. Shoebat. I did not see your email of last Wedneaday (sic) till now. Thanks for following up.

 

When we were first contacted by CNN asking for evidence that corroborates Mr. Shoebat’s life account, we were glad, since we felt that you were serious in doing a joint effort in investigating the story and provided you with our initial detailed report. We also contacted our own sources in Israel to do some checking on what Mr. Drew Griffin erroneously claimed that he “personally contacted Bank Leumi” regarding the bombing which we had our contacts in Israel check to only find out that Mr. Griffin’s account was certainly false and that we believe Mr. Griffin had plagiarized his record.

 

We did not reflect this on the entire CNN team, so in our effort to iron this issue out we filed a complaint in which we referred to evidence as to why we believe that Mr. Griffin was being dishonest (see below). We summarized in our emailed letter that: “your investigators never called the bank but relied on a fraudulent article”.

 

We obtained a disappointing reply from Mr. Feder dated June 13, 2011, which stated that: “We stand by the reporting upon which Ms. Johnston and Mr. Griffin based their questioning.  Your assumptions as to their sources have no basis in fact, and your allegations of lying are false and without basis”.

 

Although the response had no details to corroborate Mr. Griffin’s account, we concluded that you stand by your investigation and chose to provide your viewers with this false information since CNN was not able to corroborate Mr. Griffin’s claim.

 

The reason that we are at a loss is that after reading Mr. Feder’s response, which states that Mr. Griffin is being truthful, then Mr. Shoebat’s account must be according to you false.

 

And now we obtain an email that has valid inquiries from you, which if one reads can conclude that CNN is not fully convinced of Mr. Griffin’s account.

 

If you believe Mr. Griffin’s account, then why even continue this investigation? Why not simply make your story as it stands?

 

We are at a loss here since we still would like to presume our corroborated effort in obtaining the facts to provide your viewers.

 

Sincerely

 

Keith Davies,

The Shoebat Foundation

_____________________

 

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:10 PM

Subject: Your e-mail

 

Dear Mr. Davies,

 

Your May 29 email to Christa Robinson and Mark Whitaker has been forwarded to me for a reply.  We will take your concerns under advisement.

 

We stand by the reporting upon which Ms. Johnston and Mr. Griffin based their questioning.  Your assumptions as to their sources have no basis in fact, and your allegations of lying are false and without basis. Your email has been forwarded to CNN’s attorneys.

 

Dear Mr Whitaker:

 

I am filing a formal complaint against two of your “investigative journalists” Drew Griffin and Kathy Johnston for lying to us when they were questioning Mr. Shoebat (my client) in Rapid City SD. Drew Griffin  one of your journalists stated that he received information from a “trusted source” that Mr Shoebat was paid $13,000 for his speech/lecture for the DHS in Rapid City (This is on Camera ) This “trusted source” was CAIR – Council for American Islamic Relations” which has shown many times in the past a biased hatred for Mr. Shoebat and have made many false accusations against him. Even CAIR in their latest release against Mr. Shoebat stated the  correct amount which came day or two after the event in which somebody at the DHS told them the actual figure, which was $5000.

 

The second lie is more serious in which Drew Griffin as well Kathy Johnston in an email confirmed that “CNN contacted Bank Leumi branch which Walid stated he had bombed in Bethlehem in 1976.”  CNN or your investigators never called the bank but relied on a fraudulent article written by a freelance journalist, in his article stated he contacted THE BANK LEUMI, which was the bank Shoebat had bombed. This freelance journalist had an anti Shoebat agenda and his article was published only in the Op Ed column of the Jerusalem Post which the Newspaper later printed a rebuttal. Further we hired an investigator ourselves and the bank branch in question was closed in 1996. The article written by Jorge Luyken in the Jerusalem Post was written in 2008, 12 years later so he could have never called the bank branch in question. Our investigator also contacted Bank Leumi headquarters in Israel who stated they would never release information like this unless one was a customer of the bank.

 

We would appreciate if you can ask these journalists their “trusted sources” internally so that you can determine whether you wish to expose facts to your audiences or slanted bias, egged on by the propaganda of CAIR whom seems to have an alliance which should not be tolerated by any independent media.

 

We asked Kathy Johnston by email the source of the person at Bank Leumi but she was unwilling to provide based on “protecting sources.” We fail to see how the so called source at the Bank Leumi could be in any danger or hurt for revealing a simple fact.  If CNN is serious about the integrity of its news gathering some questions need to be asked concerning the agenda regarding this story as well as verifying for yourself as leaders of CNN News, the integrity of these journalists. If they lie about us then how can they be trusted with other important stories.

 

I look forward to hearing your comments and findings? please indicate when I should receive a complete response?

 

From: “Lister, Tim” <Tim.Lister@turner.com>
To: lalric3@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:25 AM
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

Checking that you received this e-mail. Very much hope that you can help with the questions below.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

 


From: Lister, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:35 PM
To: ‘lalric3@yahoo.com’
Subject: Walid Shoebat story

 

Dear Mr Davies

 

I am involved in the vetting process for a story concerning Mr Walid Shoebat that has been shot by Drew Griffin. His producer Kathleen Johnston passed on to me your long and detailed e-mail of May 27th.

 

Thank-you for the information you have provided. We are still trying to find the answers to several questions.

 

Can I ask you to provide further details as follows?

 

We are having very little luck tracking down any of the Board members of the Forum for Middle East Understanding. If you have any contact information for board members, I would be very grateful for it. I note from IRS Form 990 from 2009 that Lance Silver is listed. Is he still a board member and are there any others?

 

As regards the incident in Bethlehem in 1978, I note that in 3 – F, you offer contact details for a journalist who has interviewed eyewitnesses. We would be very grateful for those details.

 

Do you have any contact details for James al-Yateem, who is referenced in your e-mail and Mr Shoebat’s blog posting of May 18th this year?

 

Similarly, in 4 – C, we have had no luck in accessing Israeli TV archives (which are very incomplete for that time) or in tracking down anyone by the name of Karam Zarour. Could that name be spelt differently? 

 

Are you able to furnish us with any documentary evidence of Mr Shoebat’s convictions in Israeli court?

 

Can you tell us when Mr Shoebat entered the US ? Were US immigration authorities aware of his record of violence on behalf of the PLO?

 

Thank-you for your time – and for helping us pin down as many details as possible about Mr Shoebat’s experiences and background.

 

Sincerely

 

Tim Lister

Executive Editor, CNN

____________________


Click Here To Read Walid Shoebat’s “Confession”…

 

 

Drew Griffin CNN’s “Investigative Journalist” Who Lead the Smear Campaign at the Full Instigation of CAIR is a Proven Liar….

 

Drew Griffin CNN investigative reporter

 

He is exposed by Bill O’Reilly who has an audience 10 times bigger than CNN, I wonder why?

 

We received an unsolicited email from an unimpeachable source that CAIR was fully involved and helped CNN with this smear. Obviously we cannot reveal the name as it would compromise him, which is frustrating for us. CNN are lying when they denied CAIR’s involvement as they did through the whole story.

We need help from you out there: both to write to Anderson Cooper and CNN about your outrage. Keep emails short and professional.

 

We believe his email is: anderson.cooper@turner.com

head of CNN is: mark.whitaker@cnn.com 

You also might like to scour blogs that attack Walid’s credentials and link a positive comment with a link back to: http://shoebat.com/credentials.php

________________________________

Walid Shoebat Accusers use Half-Truth Data to Condemn Him

John R. Houk

© September 21, 2012

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

Copyright © 2002-2012, OpEdNews

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I Was a Terrorist; In Defense of My Identity, Story and Credentials

 

© Copyright 2002-2010 Top Executive Media. All rights reserved.

[SlantRight Editor: I am guessing the Shoebat guys have not updated the copyright info yet.]

CNN & Tea Party Express are Working Together


  

John R. Houk

© December 17, 2010

 

People have heard of CNN almost from the beginning days of Cable Networking. CNN was the first competition to the (then) Big Three Networks of ABC, CBS & NBC in the news media realm. When one mentioned “CNN” in speaking, one knew that a reputable news conduit was delivering news. This was in the days that people trusted the integrity of the news as most people trust the word of a Doctor today. The Cable News Network was a trusted source of information that also made news more than a drab delivery.

 

Then something happened. A huge amount of the News Media made a noticeable dip towards the Left. Eventually CNN seemed to be among the most Leftwing of the News outlets. Some would argue that MSNBC might be the more Leftist.

 

The thing is that today when one mentions CNN and one is a Conservative, one does not think of the Cable News Network. I am guessing a huge chunk if not the majority think of CNN as the Communist News Network. When one thinks of Conservative News today, one thinks of FOX News. Not only is CNN considered Leftist by Conservatives, I could say that CNN has the image of Anti-Right.

 

I am on the email list of the Tea Party Express which has had its up and down moments within the Tea Party movement primarily due to words by a key Tea Party Express leader construed as using humor in a racist manner. Frankly when I heard the now ill-fated humor I did not think it as horrendous as the Left made of it or that the various other Tea Party organizations made it out to be. Certainly it was made bad taste and perhaps a little juvenile, but hey when comedy shows such as Saturday Night Live uses the race card to poke humor there is little national outrage. I found it very distasteful that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) directly called the Tea Party Movement a racist movement when the main impetus of Tea Partiers was less taxes and less government. At the time I thought the poor taste of Mark Williams’ letter to Lincoln from “colored” people was humorous. However, going back and reading the fictional letter I can see how it was offensive and that a tit-for-tat was not a mature response to the NAACP.

 

Now check this out! The old Communist News Network is hooking up with the Tea Party Express to jointly put on a Presidential debate when Presidential campaigning is in full swing. I am having difficulty wrapping my mind around that. Imagine Left Wing CNN and the Tea Party Express putting together a debate that favors questions that are slanted toward Tea Party Movement thinking.

 

Here is an excerpt from the TPE email I received December 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM.

 

The Tea Party Express is pleased to announce that we have agreed to partner with CNN to host the first-ever Tea Party Presidential Debate for GOP candidates for president.

 

“This is a huge victory for the tea party movement.  Who would have thought even one-year ago that a major media outlet would team up with the tea party movement to host a major presidential debate?” said Amy Kremer, Chairman of the Tea Party Express.

 

The debate will be held Labor Day weekend in 2011 at the site of the GOP presidential convention.

 

“We will not only hold Republican candidates accountable for supporting tea party principles of limited government, but it also helps build further momentum for the tea party movement in getting our message heard to more and more people,” Kremer said.

 

“We will be full partners with CNN, jointly making decisions with them about the debate, and we will ensure that this debate reflects tea party principles, and we appreciate the opportunity to have those values represented over the airwaves of CNN,” Kremer concluded.

 

Below is the CNN article about the collaboration.

 

JRH 12/17/10