Larson Responds to Militant Atheist


Lee Larson responded awesomely to a profanity-distributing atheist who idiotically denies God’s existence then heaps descriptive profanity on Almighty God. Militant atheists are often illogical. 1) They deny God’s existence. 2) Then help insults on the person of God as if He exists as if the atheist will offend the Almighty.

 

JRH 1/4/18

Please Support NCCR

*****************

Larson Responds to Militant Atheist

January 3, 2018

Lee Larson

G+ Community (Fox News) Faith and Values

 

The fact that you have to resort to foul language tells everyone your level of intellect.

 

God gives purpose to life, He brings love & hope to a dark world. If all you believe is that you are born and then you die your life has no real meaning. As such you are drawn to grab all you can get any way you can get it. That is what our world loves because that makes people very rich, but it also makes it very brutal.

 

My happiness (or perceived happiness) is all that matters, as a result a lot of pain takes place along the way. Just take a look around and you will see it everywhere. Probably in your own life and that is why you have a hard time believing in God, the Creator of all things, visible and invisible.

 

I pray someday that you will experience a P.A.C.K. (Planned Act of Christian Kindness) event. When you least expect it, someone reaches out to you with an act of kindness wanting, even refusing, to accept anything in return, and letting you know that this is the Lord loving on you at this unusual time & place.

 

Like the free gift or service provided you and comes a reminder that this is what the grace of God through Jesus Christ is like, something you cannot buy or earn at any price. Jesus already took the punishment for your sins when He willingly died on the Cross for the redemption of all sins.

 

For that is the only way that we may stand in the Presence of our perfect Creator on that final day. There is good and evil in our world, there is light and there is darkness, there are things we can see and there are things that we cannot see. Things that we can explain and things that far exceed our human capacity of understanding. So why is it so hard to believe that the immense complexity of our own being as well as that of our world and the vastness of space exists because of an all-powerful and loving God?

 

One that provided us with His living Word in the Scriptures, One that came in person in the form of His Son to bring His Word to life so that we may believe, and One that sent His Spirit to dwell within us so that we may feel His very Presence and know true love, peace, and hope in eternal life with Him.

 

God bless!

_____________________

Edited for clarity by John R. Houk

I pray the editing meets with Lee Larson’s approval.

To view the atheist’s original post and the following comments including Larson’s post go HERE.

 

Miracles Happen During Christmas


John R. Houk

© January 1, 2018

 

Most of Christendom celebrates Christmas on December 25 according to the Gregorian calendar. Using Wikipedia as a stat source, there are about 2.42 billion Christians globally. Of those nearly 2.5 billion Christians, roughly 225–300 million are Eastern Orthodox Christians. This makes the Eastern Orthodox Church the second largest communion of Christians behind the number one Roman Catholic Church.

 

I mention this Orthodox Christians do not celebrate Christmas according to the Gregorian calendar (named for Pope Gregory XIII), but rather according the Julian calendar (named for Julius Caesar). The Julian calendar celebrates Christmas on December 25, but when compared to the Gregorian calendar, that date falls on about January 7. Ergo, if you are an Eastern Orthodox Christian you have six days until Christmas January 7, 2018.

 

How are you liking a bit of calendar history this New Years Day 2018? I am a bit of an amateur historian and wanted to set up a Christmas story about General George Patton of WWII fame.

 

In the 1970 movie about Patton I found quite amusing pertaining to ordering the 3rd Army Chaplain to pray for fair weather to kill Nazi Germans and rescue the army boys of Bastogne surrounded by the Nazi army who demanded an American surrender. (The commander – General McAulliffe – of the American troops famously replied, “NUTS!”)

 

VIDEO: The Good Weather Prayer WW2

 

In the movie General Patton was so excited about answered prayer penned by Chaplain O’Neill, he wanted to pin a medal on him.  Patton’s adjutant, Colonel Harkins, later reminisced about Patton’s jubilation that he recalls this memory:

 

 

General Patton again called me to his office. He wore a smile from ear to ear. He said, “God damn! Look at the weather. That O’Neill sure did some potent praying. Get him up here. I want to pin a medal on him.”

 

The Chaplain came up the next day. The weather was still clear when we walked into General Patton’s office. The General rose, came from behind his desk with hand out-stretched and said, “Chaplain, you’re the most popular man in this Headquarters. You sure stand in good with the Lord and the soldiers.” The General then pinned a Bronze Star Medal on Chaplain O’Neill.

 

(When Patton Enlisted the Entire Third Army to Pray for Fair Weather; Quote from book “Patton: Blood, Guts, and Prayer” by Michael Keane; HistoryOnTheNet.com; © 2012)

 

Prayer Christmas Card from to 3rd Army

 

The point of informing Believers of the Risen Savior that a huge chunk of Christians has yet to observe Christmas is this. This Christmas story about General Patton needing prayer to win a battle against evil-wicked Nazis with racial-supremacist motives to conquer the Western world shows God Almighty favors those more in line with His Will than those outside of His Will. KEEP IN MIND Hitler had the genocidal aim to cleanse the Earth all of the Jewish faith. (Pay attention Muslim Jew-haters and White Supremacist Jew-haters.)

 

Below is the article I discovered via a Tea Party USA email pointing the way to Joe For America (of Joe the Plumber fame).

 

JRH 1/1/18

Please Support NCCR

********************

‘Christmas Card’ Gen. Patton Gave US Troops May Be Manliest Ever Created

 

By NANCY HAYES 

DECEMBER 27, 2017

Joe For America

 

It’s amazing when you look back in time over Christmas and our soldiers, what a vital role prayer has played. Especially in 1944, when General Patton needed prayer for fair weather he expressed it in his Christmas card that was circulated among the troops to over 486 chaplains and the entire Third Army.

 

Patton looms large over American political history, especially after George C. Scott’s masterful screen performance as the World War II general.

 

Few scenes in American cinematic history are as iconic as Scott, in character, pacing before the American flag and delivering a speech to his men.

 

Then Lieutenant General George Patton

 

And yet, for all of Hollywood’s hero-making, the real man was even more of a legend — and this Christmas card of prayer proves just that.

 

During the holiday season of 1944, Patton’s Third Army was bogged down in its advance against the Germans.

 

According to WND, Patton was delayed as he was trying to reach Bastogne, a town in southern Belgium held by 15,000 American troops but encircled by over 50,000 Nazi soldiers bearing down on it.

 

Unfortunately, due to the weather, Gen. Patton didn’t have the air cover he needed to relieve the 15,000 brave American troops holding off the Germans.

 

That’s when he decided to rely on the power of prayer.

 

From History on the Net,

 

In early December 1944, the headquarters of the Third Army was in the Caserne Molifor, an old French military barracks in Nancy in the region of Lorraine, a ninety-minute train ride from Paris. At eleven o’clock on the morning of December 8, Patton telephoned the head chaplain, Monsignor James H. O’Neill: “This is General Patton; do you have a good prayer for weather? We must do something about those rains if we are to win the war.”

 

One account of what happened after Patton’s telephone call to O’Neill is related by Colonel Paul Harkins, Patton’s deputy chief of staff. It appears as a footnote in War As I Knew It, a book based on Patton’s diaries and published in 1947, after his death.

 

On or about the fourteenth of December, 1944, General Patton called Chaplain O’Neill, Third Army Chaplain, and myself into his office in Third Headquarters at Nancy. The conversation went something like this:

 

General Patton: “Chaplain, I want you to publish a prayer for good weather. I’m tired of these soldiers having to fight mud and floods as well as Germans. See if we can’t get God to work on our side.”

 

Chaplain O’Neill: “Sir, it’s going to take a pretty thick rug for that kind of praying.”

 

General Patton: “I don’t care if it takes a flying carpet. I want the praying done.”

 

Chaplain O’Neill: “Yes, sir. May I say, General, that it usually isn’t a customary thing among men of my profession to pray for clear weather to kill fellow men.”

 

General Patton: “Chaplain, are you trying to teach me theology or are you the Chaplain of the Third Army? I want a prayer.”

 

Chaplain O’Neill: “Yes, sir.”

 

Outside, the Chaplain said, “Whew, that’s a tough one! What do you think he wants?” It was perfectly clear to me. The General wanted a prayer—he wanted one right now— and he wanted it published to the Command.

 

The Army Engineer was called in, and we finally decided that our field topographical company could print the prayer on a small-sized card, making enough copies for distribution to the army. It being near Christmas, we also asked General Patton to include a Christmas greeting to the troops on the same card with the prayer. The General agreed, wrote a short greeting, and the card was made up, published, and distributed to the troops on the twenty-second of December.

 

It was distributed to each one of the 250,000 troops under his command in the Third Army, and had all of the men pray this simple prayer:

 

Prayer Christmas Card to 3rd Army

 

“Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend,” it read.

 

“Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies, and establish Thy justice among men and nations. Amen.”

 

On the reverse side, Patton wrote, “To each officer and soldier in the Third United States Army, I wish a Merry Christmas. I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty, and skill in battle. We march in our might to complete victory. May God’s blessings rest upon each of you on this Christmas Day. — G.S. Patton, Jr., Lieutenant General, Commanding, Third United States Army.”

 

And it worked.

 

The next day, the weather cleared, Patton’s Third Army made its way into Bastogne to relieve the 101st Airborne, stymie the Nazis, and … well, you know the rest.

 

Talk about a Christmas card and the power of prayer! Even Patton knew the importance of prayer in war during Christmas.

 

For all those who serve our country and are away from your families – God Bless You! and THANK YOU for serving our country!

 

Resource: Western Journalism, History on the Net

___________________

Miracles Happen During Christmas

John R. Houk

© January 1, 2018

_________________

‘Christmas Card’ Gen. Patton Gave US Troops May Be Manliest Ever Created

 

About Joe For America

 

I was born in Toledo in 1973, and graduated from Springfield High School – right around the corner from where I live today.

 

Like many young men graduating from high school, I enlisted in the Air Force looking for adventure, career, and a way to serve the country I love. The Air Force taught me practical skills like plumbing, which is what I did while stationed on bases in Alaska and North Dakota.

 

After being honorably discharged from the Air Force, I continued to work as a plumber for several years. I was also employed by a communications firm, working my way up from Data Entry Assistant to a Communications Engineer.

 

In 2008, my life changed when Barack Obama came into my front yard on a campaign stop. I asked him why he wanted to raise taxes, and he said that he wanted to “spread the wealth.” Since then READ THE REST

 

Do You Judge Word of Faith?


John R. Houk

© December 27, 2017

 

Jyrki Soini has been a great Internet friend for some time. Jyrki knows that my Christian persuasion derives from Pentecostal-Charismatic-Word of Faith. Which tends to be non-denominationally Protestant yet not always. Indeed, there are some denominational Protestants and Roman Catholics that have incorporated Charismatic faith into their belief system understanding the issue is merely recognizing Holy Spirit Baptism (The Holy Spirit and His Gifts – Chapter 5 The Holy Spirit Upon: His Infilling Power; By Kenneth E. Hagin) and the operation of the Holy Spirit gifts are as significant today as they were when first manifested after Pentecost in the Upper Room.

 

There is a large swath of Christians so offended by the operation of the Holy Spirit that those Christians have called it “of the devil” or “demonic” or “Satanic”. In a bit of irony there are Pentecostals that call Charismatics excessive hence heretical. There Word of Faith people that say the same as Pentecostals about Charismatics yet are displeased with the Pentecostal tendency toward exclusivity. On a personal level, I tend to identify with Word of Faith which is no more heretical than the Bible is. I guess Jews that don’t believe Jesus is the Messiah and Muslims that acknowledge Jews and Christians as deluded folk, would consider dependence on the Bible as heretical.

 

To be honest there is an extremely valid reason for the existence of Word of Faith criticism from those that have taken on the role of defender of the faith.

 

Those that awakened to the efficacy of the Word of God (the Bible) believe the Bible is as present TODAY as it ever has been. Word of Faith simply means acting on the Word as a lifestyle belief system. The difficulty of taking a stand to live the Bible is it requires discipline and a steadfastness.

 

Way too many people that have taken on the Word of Faith mantle have become lazy Believers. The lazy person is too willing to rely on the actions of others which may not be centered on the Bible but are motivated by the old fashioned unredeemed Old Man flesh. The lazy Believer thus believes the person that warps the Word for self-benefit. You can believe this: You don’t have to be a big-name preacher to manipulate a lazy Believer with a warped sense of the Word of God.

 

The original founders of the Word of Faith preach Faith in the Word which did include a prosperity message. For lazy Believers prosperity in the Word began to line up Biblical warping. Thus second-tier leaders of faith found a way to make a buck off the backs of the lazy who would believe anything to acquire a quick fix for a dire financial situation. PERHAPS even incurring their dire financial circumstances purposely out of the idiocy that they believed God would fix their mess-up.

 

The self-appointed defenders of the faith thus fell from being centered on the Bible by lumping the faithful with 2nd tier faith preachers who shared the Bible more as business rather than as a gift to spread the Good News that Jesus the Christ came in the guise of sinless flesh to be Crucified as the sacrificial Lamb of God to Redeem all humanity that choose to believe Christ died for them and three days later, arose bodily as fully human and fully God by faith enabling Believers to rejoin the Presence of God lost by the disobedience of Adam and Eve.

 

The Apostle Paul writes under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit about a similar situation of preachers sharing Jesus for gain, contrasting good preachers sharing the gift of Redemption in Christ:

 

[Blog Editor: Disciplined Life]

 

And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment, 10 that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ, 11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

 

Christ Is Preached

 

12 But I want you to know, brethren, that the things which happened to me have actually turned out for the furtherance of the gospel, 13 so that it has become evident to the whole palace guard, and to all the rest, that my chains are in Christ; 14 and most of the brethren in the Lord, having become confident by my chains, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.

 

15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: 16 The former[a] preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice. (Philippians 1: 9-18 NKJV)

 

Now there are some Bible-believing preachers that chose a Christ-lifestyle of faith in God’s Word that came from some fairly poverty-stricken circumstances. These people did not “blab and grab” or “name and claim” as their critics point out with the planks in their eyes. Rather they learned a disciplined life of trust in God through Christ and professed a life that fit the circumstances they faced. The true meaning of confession brings possession is not greed, but the bringing about the purposes that bring people to Salvation in the Risen Savior Jesus Christ.

 

As the demand increased for a faith preacher to share the Good News of Jesus, plenty answered the and began to emerge for those hungered to receive ministry as provision came into existence to build the redeemed. Some of these early faith preachers who did awesome work for Christ are some of the most criticized by the self-appointed defenders of the faith.

 

Let’s look at the person called the father of the Word of Faith movement by critics and admirers alike – Kenneth E. Hagin. I was Born Again under the teaching books that came from Kenneth Hagin, Charles Capps and Kenneth Copeland. Hagin and Capps have since passed on to glory (regardless of their judgmental critics). Ken Copeland is still going strong. In the mid-1970s when I read their books and comparing their teaching with the Bible, I departed a life devoted to sin (although I had no conviction of sin until I realized I was living in darkness) and decided to be a pilgrim progressing in the knowledge of a Salvation provided by the Redeemer lighting the way to the Presence of God.

 

Here is a Ken Hagin biography devoid of his critics who have judged him a preacher of Satan rather than Christ:

 

Biography Of Kenneth E. Hagin

By Bp-Relate

September 16, 2016

Believers Portal

 

Kenneth Erwin Hagin was an influential American Charismatic preacher born on August 20, 1917 in McKinney, Texas to the family of Lillie Viola Drake Hagin and Jess Hagin. He was so small and lifeless that the doctor thought that he was stillborn.

 

Personal Life

 

He was married to Oretha Rooker. They had two children, a son, Kenneth Wayne Hagin, who is presently the pastor of Rhema Bible Church and President of Kenneth Hagin Ministries, and a daughter, Patricia Harrison. She is the widow of the late Doyle “Buddy’ Harrison and is the owner and publisher of Harrison House, located in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

 

According to Hagin’s testimony, he was sickly as a child, suffering from a deformed heart and what was believed to be an incurable blood disease. He became bedfast at age 15 and was not expected to live. In April 1933 during a dramatic conversion experience, he reported dying three times in 10 minutes, each time seeing the horrors of hell and then returning to life. But in August 1934, he was miraculously healed, raised off a deathbed by the power of God and the revelation of faith in God’s Word. Jesus appeared to Rev. Hagin eight times over the next several years in visions that changed the course of his ministry.

 

Two years later he preached his first sermon as the pastor of a small community church in Roland, Texas, 9 miles from McKinney.

 

In 1967, he began a regular radio broadcast that continues today as Rhema for Today.

 

His favorite scripture was Mark 11:23: “For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed and be thou cast into the sea, and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass, he shall have whatsoever he saith”.

 

Many of his followers often called him “Dad Hagin”, “Papa Hagin”, and more commonly “Brother Hagin”. He is also often referred to as the “father” (or “granddaddy”) of the “Word of Faith” movement. Hagin never received any formal theological training, however, he received an honorary doctorate from Oral Roberts University in the 1970s.

 

Ministry

 

Hagin began an itinerant ministry as a Bible teacher and evangelist in 1949. He was also a part of the Voice of Healing Revival in the U.S. in the 40s and 50s together with Oral Roberts, Gordon Lindsay and T. L. Osborn. In 1963, Kenneth E. Hagin Evangelistic Association was incorporated, and in 1966, the ministry offices moved to Tulsa, Oklahoma. That same year, he taught for the first time on radio — on KSKY in Dallas. In 1967, he began a regular radio broadcast that continues today as Faith Seminar of the Air. Teaching by his son, Rev. Kenneth Wayne Hagin, is also heard on the program.

 

Since its inception in 1963, his organization grew to include numerous media outreaches and ministries. These are:

 

  • Faith Library Publications – with 65 million book copies in circulation

 

  • “RHEMA Praise” – a weekly television program on the Trinity Broadcasting Network

 

  • “Faith Seminar of the Air” – a radio program heard on many stations nationwide and on the Internet

 

  • “The Word of Faith” – a free monthly magazine with roughly 600,000 subscribers

 

  • crusades conducted throughout the nation

 

  • RHEMA Correspondence Bible School

 

  • the RHEMA Prayer and Healing Center, located on the Rhema campus in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma

 

RHEMA Bible Training College

 

In 1974 Rev. Hagin founded what is now Rhema Bible Training College (RBTC). RBTC is an unaccredited Bible institute located on 110 acres (0.45 km2) in Broken Arrow, a suburb of Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. The curriculum is taught from a Charismatic/Pentecostal heritage. There are seven ministry concentrations specializing in Children’s Ministry, Youth Ministry, Evangelism, Pastoral Care, Missions, Biblical Studies, and Supportive Ministry.

 

The school has campuses in many countries of the world including Austria, Brazil, Colombia, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Mexico, Peru, Romania, Singapore, South Africa, the South Pacific, Thailand, Nigeria, Zambia, Egypt, and the Philippines.

 

RBTC also has over 40,000 graduates who reside and minister in more than 100 countries.

 

In 1979, he founded the Prayer and Healing Center there to provide a place for the sick to come to “have the opportunity to build their faith.” Its Healing School continues to be held free of charge twice daily on the RHEMA campus.

 

After Kenneth E. Hagin’s death in 2003, his son Kenneth W. Hagin continued to run the RBTC.

 

See List Of Books By Kenneth Hagin [Blog Editor: I received a warning from Google the link https://www.believersportal.com/list-books-kenneth-e-hagin/ has too many redirects to be trusted in my browser. Ergo, here is a direct link to examine Kenneth E. Hagin books: https://www.rhema.org/store/books.html?author=9]

 

Others

 

Until shortly before his death on September 19, 2003 at the age of 86, Rev. Hagin continued to travel and teach throughout the United States and into Canada conducting All Faiths’ Crusades and other special meetings.
 Known as the “father of the modern faith movement,” Rev. Hagin was a dynamic preacher, teacher, and prophet. His teachings and books are filled with vivid stories that show God’s power and truth working in his life and the lives of others. He will be remembered not only as a great minister but as a great family man—for his family was his heart. He was there at every milestone ready to talk, to answer, to pray. He was a man whose belly laugh filled the room at the sight of one of his grandchildren or great-grandchildren.

 

In full disclosure, I am a graduate of RHEMA attending from 1982 – 1984. In those days the school’s name was RHEMA Bible Training Center. At the present many classes have been cleared as credited for further college education (much like a Junior or Community College) with the name of RHEMA Bible Training College.

 

In the days I attended school, Brother Hagin taught students personally – two days a week for first year students and three days a week for second year students.

 

I have to tell you. Kenneth Hagin always told the students to NOT take his word for anything but check it out with the Bible. And, Hagin realized that human beings are fallible. With fallibility comes opinionated conclusions that might not line up with the Word of God. Hence, one of Kenneth Hagin’s favorite sayings when listening to anyone preaching or teaching – including himself – was this: “Be as smart as an old cow. Eat the hay and spit out the sticks.”

 

In case you miss the meaning: Take in what is good for you and spit out what is bad for you using the Bible as your measuring stick. In computer programing talk one might say, “Good Programing produces good results. Garbage Programming produces garbage results.”

 

By the time I graduated in 1984, Brother Hagin and his teaching staff recognized the message of faith in the Word of God was beginning to be abused by too many who used the Word to manipulate people for selfish ends. He actually had a class which I unfortunately can’t remember its course title now, but explored past preachers that utilized faith to win souls or heal the sick. Many of these past preachers started out awesome but wrong choices or bad decisions warped their good beginnings with unfortunate endings. 1984 was a long time ago I’ll address some of those giants of faith that I can remember but certainly not all.

 

John Alexander Dowie 1847-1907

 

Dowie was born in Scotland. He became a devoted Christian in childhood. The Dowie family moved to Australia. As an adult he went back to Scotland for a theological education. After which he moved back to Australia. His ministry became focused on divine healing.

 

After a while the John Alexander Dowie family moved to the USA with a successful healing ministry.

 

Historically, Dowie is an important figure in the divine healing movement of the last two centuries. David Harrell, who chronicled the healing revivals in America, calls Dowie “the father of healing revivalism in America.”2 This title does not imply that Dowie was the sole originator of the modern healing revival, but rather that his influence was so widespread that he is deserving of the title “father.” Dayton acknowledges that Dowie was a major source of Pentecostal doctrines of healing and that these doctrines grew out of the already existent Holiness teaching yet “being restated in a more distinctly Pentecostal vein.”3 While the Holiness teachings on healing from Charles Cullis, Boardman, A. B. Simpson, Gordon, and Andrew Murray played a role in the Pentecostal ministry of healing, none had quite the same effect as Dowie. Those who were influenced by Dowie include: F. F. Bosworth, John G. Lake, Charles Parham, and Lilian B. Yeomans, as well as various missionaries who went around the world with Dowie’s theological perspective on healing. Bosworth, Lake, and others later joined the Azusa Street Revival in Los Angeles. Walter Hollenweger estimates that Dowie “exercised a considerable influence to the early Pentecostal movement.”4

 

… Through the establishment of his International Divine Healing Association, Dowie was able to spread his teachings throughout America and around the world. In a 1892 publication titled, Talks with Ministers being Two Addresses on Divine Healing, Dowie introduces his theology of healing based on two “cardinal” doctrines.

 

First – That ‘Jesus, the Christ, is the same yesterday, to-day [sic] and forever,’ and being so, He is unchanged in power and in will. … Second – That Disease, like Sin, is God’s enemy, and the devil’s work, and can never be God’s will. Peter said in the household of the Centurion Cornelius, Acts 10:38: ‘God anointed Jesus Christ with the Holy Ghost and with power; who went about doing good and HEALING ALL THAT WERE OPPRESSED OF THE DEVIL, for God was with Him.’7 These two doctrines are the foundation of Dowie’s theology of divine healing.

 

 

The element of faith was important for Dowie, for he would not pray for one who did not believe in divine healing.11 However, the focus was never on faith, but on God. Dowie writes, “While faith is a very precious grace, yet it is only the medium of the communication of God’s infinite love and power, and we must never put it in the place of God, Himself.”12 Dowie was so adamant about this that he shunned the term “faith healing,” in preference of “divine healing,” because it is healing by God, and not faith. Theologically, he expresses it as, “Divine Healing, or ‘Healing through Faith in Jesus;’ not healing BY faith, but THROUGH faith; through faith in Jesus, by the power of God.”13 Faith, prayers, laying on of hands all have Christ as their focus, because in Dowie’s theological scheme, Christ is the healer.

 

 

His two cardinal doctrines are valid, but they are not without criticism. The first doctrine, that Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever is not refutable. This is the stronger of his two doctrines. … If the gift of healing is to be claimed, it is much more clear to state that this gift is often manifested by the Spirit, but it is as He wills. Dowie’s theology is better yet. It places the focus on the Lord as the one who heals. This also keeps the sick person’s attention on the Healer and not the instrument.

 

Dowie’s second doctrine, that sickness is evil, an effect of sin and a work of the Devil, is plausible, but Dowie goes far to the extreme. I concede that sickness is a result of sin, and that it is a work of the Devil. … Sin hinders relationship with God, while sickness does not. Granted, sickness is a result of sin, but the two are not the same. Thus, it is still plausible that God could allow some one to remain sick for a higher purpose. READ ENTIRETY (John Alexander Dowie – The Father of Healing Revivalism in America; By Derek Vreeland; HopeFaithPrayer.com)

 

The above excerpt paints a rosy picture of Dowie with only a bit of criticism. Unfortunately, the man who plugged into what the Bible says about a divine health lifestyle, allowed selfish pride, self-aggrandized power and a lifestyle suggesting greed to overtake him.

 

Dowie was of the opinion that government should be operated as a theocracy based on Biblical tenets. That sounds altruistically great to the Biblical Christian. However, Dowie’s theocracy, just as many past and present theocracies, when managed by man or men (how’s that for some good old-fashioned chauvinism? 😊) execute a governance that is flawed. The only theocracy that will ever be effective will be when King Jesus returns to fully complete the Redemption of all that is on Earth.

 

Dowie founded a suburb city outside of Chicago called Zion City. The formation of Zion was with good motives, but men called the shots and Dowie received all the benefits of power. What’s the old saying about “power”:

 

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

Power corrupted Dowie:

 

One of the most interesting Christian biographies is that of John Alexander Dowie. His biography reveals how a person can stray from God’s plan for our lives… He was obviously a servant of God who led thousands of people to receive salvation and healing; but in the latter part of his life Dowie’s activities were not so focused on serving the will of God. He strayed from the path.

 

Building an earthly kingdom. One of the most obvious mistakes made by Dowie was that he did not stick with his original calling. One example of this is the city of Zion, which he began to build in the latter part of his life. He began to build an earthly kingdom instead of concentrating on his original calling: salvation and healing. Before that, he was for a brief period of time active in politics.

 

 

Dowie’s mistake was that when he began to build an earthly kingdom, his spiritual work died down. He did not remember that we have been called to spread the Gospel, not to found the kingdom of God on the Earth too early. …

 

The wrong illusions about himself. The errors of Dowie did not end with his attempt to build an earthly kingdom. In addition to the building, he began to imagine that he was Elijah. This took place when some people talked to him about the issue. He dismissed the idea at first, just as he was supposed to do, but it stuck in his mind to develop, until he finally accepted it, received it and proclaimed it truth. Later on he also proclaimed himself as the first apostle, which is a perfect example of strayed thinking. …

 

Criticizing others. One of Dowie’s faults in the latter part of his life was that he began to criticize other servants of God. He began to attack them and his sermons became mere criticizims [sic] of his enemies. He was especially hostile towards Maria Woodworth-Etter, through whom thousands of people had been saved and healed. He preached against Etter whenever he had the opportunity, even though he had supported her before and said that her actions were from God.

 

There are probably three reasons for Dowie’s behaviour and his criticizing others, a pattern of behaviour into which many others have lapsed.

 

Jealousy is probably one reason why some begin to criticize others. …

 

 

The wrong gift of distinguishing between spirits is the second reason why some begin criticizing others. …

 

 

The lack of love. The third reason for criticizing is simply a lack of love. The atmosphere towards those who think outside the box and towards official Christianity is always critical and judgmental in places where there is a lack of love. In these cases, attention is paid to unessential issues and differences between people, but appreciation of people is forgotten.  READ ENTIRETY (Matter From Guidance: CHAPTER 7 – The biographies teach; By Jari Iivanainen; Jari Iivanainen’s Websites)

 

If you choose to join the critics of people that began with listening to God then are blinded by the self of the flesh or choose a wrong path because the self listens to flattery, then remember this:

 

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. (Matthew 7: 1-5 NKJV)

 

Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, writes about sex-sin not dealt with among the Congregation of Believers. If one horribly misses God, one is separated from God’s Presence. If the “miss” is bad enough, I am convinced what Paul wrote about sex-sin could happen to anyone:

 

And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.[a] (1 Corinthians 5: 2-5 NKJV)

 

William Branham 1909-1965 – was a bit in the same boat of being tune with God Biblically yet going off into the ditch later in life:

 

Note: Some consign William Branham to ‘false prophet’ status, giving him a rather ruthless historical review. This is a kinder, balanced text that does not skimp on his errors. A friend whom I know who lived during the Latter Rain movement and observed it’s fall into heresy, and who was not a disciple of Branham, have testified to me that this may be the best brief review of Branham’s life they have ever read.

 

 

William Branham was an evangelist this century who was mightily used of God for a number of years. In fact, there can be little doubt that he was endued with power to a degree that has rarely been seen since the days of the apostles. And there is still a great deal of controversy surrounding his life, death and teachings. To some of his most ardent followers (who are still around today), he seemed to assume almost semi-divine status, a damaging and tragic fallacy that has frightened many sound Christians away from studying his life. On the other hand, even in his heyday some believers were skeptical [sic] and suspicious of the tremendous power and unusual signs and miracles that accompanied his ministry. There can be little doubt that Branham went astray in his ministry in the latter part of his life. (The fact that God took him home early, and that the cause of death was a car-crash in which his body became horribly tangled in the wreck, though he lingered on for a few more days – bears this out). However, it is my belief, and the belief of many who have studied his life, that in his early years he was one of the most anointed men of God that has ever lived in modern times.

 

As Gordon Lindsay wrote in his 1952 biography of Branham’s early life and ministry:  “The story of the life of William Branham is so out of this world and beyond the ordinary that were there not available a host of infallible proofs which document and attest its authenticity, one might well be excused for considering it far-fetched and incredible.” (G. Lindsay, ‘William Branham – A man sent from God’, pg 9). Even his birth and childhood had unusual aspects to them. Born in 1909 in Kentucky, his family soon shifted to the state of Indiana, where they eventually settled not far from Jeffersonville. Branham’s family were the “poorest of the poor”. …

 

 

Afterwards when Branham was baptizing 130 converts in the Ohio River, a heavenly light, like a blazing star, appeared above him just as he was about to baptize the seventeenth person. This was witnessed by the vast 4000-strong congregation that stood on the banks of the river looking on. Some of them ran for fear, while others shouted or fainted. A report of this unusual event appeared in the local newspaper shortly afterwards. It has also been reported that a voice spoke from within the light, saying, “As John the Baptist was sent to forerun the first coming of the Lord, so you are sent to forerun His second coming…”  What is certain is that a heavenly light was seen, and it seems likely also that something along these lines was spoken over him.

 

 

The amazing thing about this series of seven visions is that they were given at a time (June 1933) when Branham had no way at all of coming to these conclusions through mere guesswork. In 1933 Germany was by no means ready for war, Russia was by no means a dominant world power, and Communism was a relatively minor force in the world. Some of the details given in the visions were just too extraordinary to pass off as mere coincidence. (See ‘The Acts of the Prophet’ by Pearry Green, pg 48-51, for a fuller description). Also, the fact is that these visions were given to an uneducated, simple man in the back-blocks of Indiana, a man who had little understanding at all of political complexities. And the fact that at least five of these visions have now been precisely fulfilled, means that we should surely take the others seriously also.

 

 

“Now, coming through the light, I saw the feet of a man coming toward me, as naturally as you would walk to me. He appeared to be a man who, in human weight, would weigh about two hundred pounds, clothed in a white robe. He had a smooth face, no beard, dark hair down to his shoulders, of rather dark-complexion, with a very pleasant countenance, and coming closer, his eyes caught with mine. Seeing how fearful I was, he began to speak. ‘Fear not. I am sent from the Presence of Almighty God to tell you that your peculiar life and your misunderstood ways have been to indicate that God has sent you to take a gift of divine healing to the peoples of the world. IF YOU WILL BE SINCERE, AND CAN GET THE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOU, NOTHING SHALL STAND BEFORE YOUR PRAYER, NOT EVEN CANCER.'” (Pg 76-77).

 

The angel told Branham that he would now have two special signs or gifts operating in his life, given to him by God. The first would enable him to detect or discern illnesses in people – a visible violent reaction in his left hand which would make it red and swollen whenever it came into contact with sickness. The second sign would be a gift that would enable him to discern the thoughts and deeds in the past life of the individual – specific sins that needed to be repented of, etc. It was often found that as Branham challenged people over such specific sins, and they confessed them to God, they would regularly be healed of whatever ailed them even before he had a chance to lay hands on them.

 

This angelic visitation marked the beginning of Branham’s incredible international miracle ministry, and also led directly to the great American Healing Revival of 1947 through 1955, in which many well-known ministries were raised up, and thousands upon thousands of people were saved and healed. …

 

Right to the end of his life, William Branham was renowned for his transparency, his simplicity and his genuine humility. No doubt this was due in part to his early life of hardship, brokenness and poverty – a great advantage when it came to his eventual ministry. I have read several of his early sermons, and they often appeared to be little more than personal testimonies accompanied by a simple (yet effective) gospel message. There was little sign of the somewhat strange, divisive and controversial teachings of his latter years. …

 

Over the following months and years, Branham travelled widely in the USA, and also to Europe and South Africa, etc. Thousands came from far and wide to hear him preach and to witness the many outstanding healings, miracles and ‘words of knowledge’ that accompanied his ministry. Often, he would call out the name, city of origin and background information of people in the audience whom he had never met, who had come to hear his preaching or to be healed. …

 

… And the mighty 1954 Argentina Revival under Tommy Hicks (with meetings of up to 400,000 people) also had strong links with this Revival. Even amongst the better-known evangelists who came into prominence at that time (such as Oral Roberts, T.L. Osborne, A.A. Allen, Jack Coe, etc), William Branham was acknowledged as something special – something extraordinary. …

 

Later in the 1950’s, when a number of healing evangelists were drifting into showmanship, hype, ‘prosperity’ doctrines and begging for money, Branham would have none of it. He was unchanged in his attitude toward these kinds of excesses right to the very end. …

 

However, there were crucial weaknesses in the practices and ministry of William Branham, which tragically began to manifest themselves in the mid-1950’s. In 1955, largely through his own carelessness and lack of good management, Branham fell into financial difficulty. He had always been nonchalant, almost naive, toward all business matters. “He sometimes missed scheduled meetings and was totally unconcerned about business details. Some of his business associates came to feel that he was culpably irresponsible. … Branham’s difficulties became more complicated in 1956 when the Internal Revenue Service filed a tax evasion suit against him… The unsophisticated Branham, apparently little interested in personal wealth, had made no systematic effort to account for the thousands of dollars that flowed through his ministry.” (Ibid, pg 39-40). For the remainder of his life, Branham worked under the burden of a $40,000.00 debt to the IRS. (Which was an enormous amount of money in those days).

 

 

By 1958, William Branham (along with many of the other healing evangelists) was deeply re-assessing his ministry. It was clear that the great Healing Revival was now well and truly over, and there can be little doubt that the decline in Branham’s own ministry had contributed to this. You can never afford to lose such a leader in any move of God, as history clearly shows. It was after this that Branham began to gradually withdraw into his own little circle, where he had an adoring and loyal following. (Essentially this circle was made up of “Oneness” or ‘Jesus-Only’ Pentecostals). And instead of his previous unwillingness to speak about contentious or divisive ‘minor’ issues, he now gradually began to emphasize such things more and more in his preaching. Slowly, these teachings became ever-more alarming and extreme.

 

As early as 1957, Branham had received a dream in which he was ministering in a ‘white disk’ above a pyramid. A voice from heaven proclaimed that no other man could stand in the disk “unless he die or be killed”, and that Branham was “the only one who can and will stand there.” Branham apparently considered this dream to be of ‘spiritual significance’. (Ibid, pg 41). By the 1960’s, he had clearly become convinced that he was the end-times “Elijah” and the true “Messenger of the Covenant”. And the adoring followers in his tight little circle were certainly not going to contradict him. A number of writers believe that it was when Branham took a ‘teaching’ ministry upon himself that he fell into error. It is clear that he had been anointed and commissioned by God to have a prophetic / evangelistic ministry, but never one of teaching. And as soon as he got into this area of teaching doctrine, he began to trespass into realms to which God had never called him, thus opening himself up to ever-increasing deception. It has been reported that towards the end, some of his teachings almost bordered on the occult. However, the original sign-giftings that God had given him never left him, right up until the time of his death in 1965.

 

 

A full TWO YEARS before Branham died, Kenneth Hagin, who was renowned for his accurate prophetic ministry at that time, was given a prophecy about Branham which he took to Gordon Lindsay. The prophecy read: “‘At the end of 1965, He who now stands in the forefront of the healing ministry as a prophet will be taken out of the way. He’ll make a false step and Satan shall destroy his life, but his spirit will be saved, and his works will follow him. Ere 1966 shall come, he shall be gone.’

 

 

Two years later, when driving to Tucson, Arizona, William Branham was involved in a head-on collision with a drunk driver. His wife was badly injured in the smash, and Branham’s body was horribly tangled in the wreck. He lingered on for a few days in hospital, though his head became terribly swollen and a tube was placed in his throat to assist his breathing. William Branham died on Christmas Eve, 1965, just before the turn of the year, exactly as the prophecy had predicted. Once more – “How have the mighty fallen”. Satan had again succeeded in ‘taking out’ one of God’s great servants. …

 

THE LESSONS WE MUST LEARN

 

…  History clearly demonstrates that the greater the power, the greater the potential for subtle pride and error to enter in. READ ENTIRETY (THE ENIGMA OF WILLIAM BRANHAM; By Andrew Strom; HarvestNet.org; This page has been loaded  07/25/1999)

 

The above excerpt mentions some names that were a part of the Healing Movement days all of which faced controversy largely by critics of healing miracles, but some actually messed up with their God-given ministry or lifestyle. One name Kenneth E. Hagin spoke of with sadness was Jack Coe.

 

Jack Coe 1918-1956(57) –

 

Jack Coe was born in Oklahoma City in 1918, but was abandoned by his parents and raised in an orphanage where he stayed until he was aged 17. He joined the army during World War II, where he experienced a miraculous healing. Thereafter he became a minister and began conducting healing revivals while still a soldier. In early 1944 he was ordained an Assemblies of God minister.

 

His public ministry

He had a dynamic personality and stage presence and soon won the allegiance of thousands. He rented his first tent in 1947 and was an established evangelist when the healing revival broke in 1947. From then on his influential ministry career enjoyed a meteoric rise to national fame, placing Coe as a serious challenge to Oral Roberts as the popular leader of the revival.

 

Coe was a powerful preacher. His messages were peppered with humour, presented boldly and dynamic in their effect. Some found him too controversial and impulsive but thousands of people, both black and white, were attracted to his lovable and tender-hearted personality.

 

But it was his healing ministry that was the main attraction. He would walk down rows of wheelchairs and crutches commanding people to be healed and to walk normally. Not all did, but there were large numbers of afflicted who got out of their wheelchairs, threw their walking aids away, got up off their beds and walked out of the meeting healed.

 

 

In a 1955 revival service in Miami, Florida Coe had told the parents of a three year old boy that he healed their son who had polio.  Coe then told the parents to remove the boy’s leg braces.  However, their son was not cured of polio and removing the braces left the boy in constant pain. As a result, Coe was arrested and charged on February 6, 1956 with practicing medicine without a license, a felony in the state of Florida.

 

He was jailed and released on $5,000 bail. Coe appealed to evangelists all over the world to come to Miami to testify in his defence. Many came to take the witness stand, most notably Gordon Lindsay, Raymond T. Richey, Gayle Jackson and Richard Vinyard. After a two-day trial the judge ruled that he could not “condemn the defendant or anyone who in good faith advocates and practices Divine Healing” and dismissed the case.

 

The trial received national publicity bringing the healing revival to the attention of America. Coe maintained that the trial was the result of a conspiracy between atheists, newsmen and the Churches of Christ, whose ministers were among his main accusers. Their opposition represented the general feeling of many evangelical leaders across the nation.  Some thought that the claim of divine healing was a threat to public health. Others had theological objections.

 

… While preaching in Hot Springs, Arkansas, Coe became critically ill. Like all the itinerant healing evangelists he ran a tortuous schedule and had been careless of his health. He had long been badly overweight. At first people concluded it was sheer exhaustion but then his disease was diagnosed as polio. …

 

Jack Coe died in early 1957 READ ENTIRETY (JACK COE; By Tony Cauchi; The Voice of Healing; 12/2011)

 

Here’s a post about Jack Coe that relates close to what Brother Hagin shared in class about him as a warning to not minister under the influence of the desires of the flesh:

 

An Early End

 

Jack Coe continued to hold healing crusades around the country, facing all sorts of persecution, including being arrested. By 1956, however, he was physically worn out. Doctors reported that he had the body of a ninety-five year old man even though he was only thirty-eight. It is believed that the Lord had told Coe about his early death a year earlier causing him to work that much more relentlessly to spread the Gospel.

 

 

Coe was diagnosed with Polio late in 1956 and was admitted to the hospital where he was unconscious most of the time. On a few occasions, he was able to speak to his wife to make his desires known, and relay that the Lord had said he was ready to take Jack home. Early in 1957, Jack went home to be with the Lord.

 

There is a story that says Coe had been warned of his impending death, due to some health habits, personal habits, and his rigorous schedule. The story says that the Lord had spoken several times to one minister in particular. This prophetic man of the time is said to have heard the warning of the Lord for Jack Coe. And it is said that he obeyed God and went to Coe.

 

RTNKC Note: Kenneth Hagin is the prophet this story speaks of.

  

As the story goes, Coe was told to judge himself in three areas: (1) his love of the brethren; (2) his weight problem; and (3) the love of money. The prophet reportedly told Coe that if he would not judge himself in these areas, he would die early. And Coe did die early. He was only thirty-eight years old when he died.

 

It is important to note that the Coe family strongly refutes that this particular prophet ever spoke to Coe. The family maintains that a member of the Coe family approached the prophet to confront him about this widespread report. According to the Coe family, this prophet said that he never spoke to Coe directly, although he was told by God to do so.

 

READ ENTIRETY (Jack Coe – The Man of Incredible Faith; Reach The Nations Kingdom College)

 

To read more on these pioneers of those that influenced or were a part of the Word of Faith Movement you should read God’s Generals by Roberts Liardon. (In full disclosure, Liardon is not without controversy himself.)

 

Some others that did great things for the Gospel of Christ that I’ll let you the reader search:

 

A.A. Allen died an alcoholic

 

Aimee Semple McPherson: Missionary, Widow, Evangelist, Divorced, Mysterious Kidnapping/Disappearance, WWII Home Heroin – Glowing & All the Pearls-Scandals

 

Kathryn Kuhlman – Tulsa World & God’s Generals & Revivals

 

There are many more.

 

I have looked at the Word of Faith heritage. The inspiration for this incomplete inquiry was Jyrki’s concern with the Prosperity teachings among Word of Faith ministers.

 

Jyrki’s concerns are well founded. It is my opinion that a true Prosperity message either out of greed or wealth derived initially from authentic Gospel transformed into matters of business relegating the Good News to second place.

 

Some of the names mentioned below can be viewed as some of the legends of faith, beginning well yet corrupted by the urges of old man flesh. Even staging non-existent miracles when their anointing was lost more than likely for listening to self rather than to God.

 

Before I send you to Jyrki’s concerns I have found a video recorded of a Kenneth E. Hagin sermon that looks circa 1986 entitled “How to be led by the Spirit 1”. Also, here is a link to a Kenneth E. Hagin book in pdf format entitled “Tongues: Beyond the Upper Room”. Watch the video and read the book without the cherry picking of critics that might be misled by the beam in their own eye. Don’t compare what you see and read with the critics, rather find the full context in the Bible. Remember: Eat the hay, spit out the sticks.

 

Below there is an extremely disappointing video of Paula White. I haven’t listened White in years, but then hear ministry delivered the Good News well. BUT NOW – it is apparent she has fallen into the ministry flesh trap of manipulating money out of donors as if the Good News is for sale rather than a gift from God Almighty via the Redeeming Blood of Christ.

 

VIDEO: 35 Kenneth Hagin – How to be led by the Spirit 1

 

Posted by JehToday

Published on Jan 31, 2013

 

December 1986 Jeh’s video bible School: http://jhlavac.mnsi.net/word/bible/vbs.htm

 

JRH 12/27/17

Please Support NCCR

*********************

Serious

 

Sent by Jyrki Soini

Sent 8/28/2017 7:23 PM

 

Dear John.

I must be honest with you. As you might have noticed I’m against prosperity gospel. I’d like to hear your opinion about that kind of action.

 

Though I’m not a Theologian I try to be a Realist. I hope you don’t get me wrong. I intend not to offend you in any way. I value you and your work pretty much.

 

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/Charismatic%20Movement/prosperity_gospel.htm

Beware of False Prophets Who Teach A Prosperity Gospel

 

By David J. Stewart

 

1st Timothy 6:6, “But godliness with contentment is great gain.”

 

 I am amazed at how accurate the Bible is about everything. I read this Scripture today and it jumped out at me so clearly. We’ve all heard televangelists teach that financial gain is God’s will for everyone’s life; but 1st Timothy 6:5 says only men of corrupt minds, who are destitute of the truth, think that financial successes equates with godliness…

 

1st Timothy 6:5, “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”

 

There you have it, perverse minds think that financial gain is godliness!

 

God says to withdraw thyself from these type of people; namely, Pentecostals and Charismatics who teach a prosperity gospel. ALL televangelists teach that God wants everyone rich in this temporarily earthly life; but they’re the only one’s getting rich, swindling people. A prosperity gospel errantly claims that God wants everyone to be rich; but first you have to give your money to the person preaching.

 

The 700 Club survives on this type of exploitation of the public. They show testimony after testimony of people (I think rigged) who claim that they gave their last $20, and now they  have a better job, two cars, a new home… blah, blah, blah! Pat Robertson is not my hero, I’ll tell you that! The 700 Club is a notorious example of what the prosperity gospel heresy is. That’s all they teach! The entire Ecumenical Movement is saturated with prosperity heresies. The truth is that you may give everything to God and end up poorer, as most people do who send their money to Benny Hinn, The 700 Club, Mike MurdockPeter PopoffDon Stewart and other shysters. Don’t be a fool with God money.

 

Everything that you own belongs to God. We are all living on borrowed time from God. That baby you aborted was lent to you by God, but you destroyed it instead. One Scripture that you’ll never hear from a televangelist is 1st Timothy 6:8 that says, “And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.” No, instead use appeal to your covetousness, with slick words, and before you know it they suckered you in for the long haul, taking your money. This is exactly what God said they would do to people. 2nd Peter 2:3, “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.”

 

Hell will be hot enough, which is where they’re all going! The world is filled with religious phonies who exploit the Gospel for their own greedy gain. God says that their damnation hasn’t been delayed, meaning they are damned this very moment! They have already been judged, found guilty, and will split Hell wide open when they breath their last breath. God’s Law condemns all humanity as guilty (Romans 3:19). This is why Hebrews 9:27 says after death, the judgment, because the second you die you’ll go to either Heaven or Hell. At The Great White Throne of Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15), God will open the Books, no doubt because there will be people who call God unfair and partial

 

The Bible teaches in 1st Timothy 6:6 that Godliness with contentment (i.e., being satisfied with just food and raiment (1st Timothy 6:8), are GREAT GAIN. Amen to that! God is the best investment!

 

Jesus told us in Matthew 6:20 to lay up treasures in Heaven! Souls is the greatest investment! What are you doing to get souls into Heaven? What are you doing to teach others how to get souls into HeavenMatthew 6:21, “For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

 

All we hear nowadays are gimmicks, advertising schemes, high-pressure sales tactics, and that gold is the best investment. They’re all carnally-minded. God is the best investment my friend!!!

 

The following Scripture warns us about false prophets who teach that God wants us all to be wealthy here on earth…

 

1st Timothy 6:4-6, “He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain.”

 

I think this is IMPORTANT. It’s about Paula White and Donald Trump.

 

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/paula-white-heresy/

Paula White Heresy – Exposing Satanism and Witchcraft

 

Paula White did NOT lead Donald Trump to Christ!

 

“A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats.”– C.H. Spurgeon

 

Proverbs 9:13 A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.

Jon Watkins ExposingSatanism.org July 16, 2016

 

After reading several recent articles, I was prompted to address the Jezebel Paula White. In one of the articles she claimed she led Trump to Christ. I know that is not true for two reasons. One being that Trump obviously has not been born again. The other being, you cannot give away something you do not have to give. Paula White does not even know what salvation is, or what it means to be born again, so she could not lead anyone to Christ! “If you do not get Jesus right, it does not matter what else you do get right!” – Mike Muzzerall.

Ms. White believes that Jesus died a sinner, went to the burning side of hell for 3 days, and was at the mercy of Satan until God said enough. He then became the first born again person and came out of hell victorious over Satan! That is the Word of Faith in a nutshell. It is not Scripture and is Blasphemy!

 

Paula White is a Prosperity Preaching Pimp. She is of the feather of fellow Pimps like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, (another Foolish, Silly Woman) Kenneth Copeland, Mike Murdock, and the rest of that clan that which poisons the airwaves via The Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) and The DayStar Network.

 

None of these people know the true gospel. They are not preachers. They are mere Motivational speakers akin to Tony Robbins. They are not teaching truth. They are ignorant proponents of new age sorcery. They have head knowledge of Jesus Christ, but have not been “Born Again” as the Gospel teaches. They are not lead by the Holy Spirit, but by the spirit of Anti-Christ.

 

These people Fleece the Flock and laugh all the way to the bank! 1st Peter 5:2 “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;”

 

Jesus addressing the Scribes and Pharisees, the “Religious Leaders” of the day. Matthew 15:13-14 “But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”

 

White claims her ministry is not based on wealth. “Do I believe that God is a sugar daddy? Not at all,” she claimed. “Find your passion in life and figure out a way to make money,” Source

 

Nowhere in the Bible does scripture support that philosophy. Perhaps James Dobson was giving her tips on how to twist scripture! James Dobson says Donald Trump has recently accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, and that Christians should be praying for him. And then a few days later; James Dobson takes back assertion Trump Is Christian: ‘Do I Know That for Sure? No.’. Couple that with several other disturbing quotes from things Ms. White said in recent interviews, I believe she is just looking for a ride on the coat tails of Trump to further her false doctrine, gain fame, and stuff the coffers. In this video clip she is pimping the 144,000 of Revelation Chapter 7 who will be witnesses in the Tribulation. That scripture has nothing to do with money. She is channeling Lucifer!

 

I have addressed her “Word of Faith” and “Prosperity Pimping” a bit in earlier articles. Before hashing quotes from an article, consider the following.

 

VIDEO: Trump’s Spiritual Adviser Sells Miracles For $1,114

 

Posted by Secular Talk

Published on Jul 12, 2016

 

Paula White has divorced 2 times and her most recent marriage is to rock and roll musician Jonathan Cain. He is known for his membership in the bands Bad English and Journey. He is most recognized for penning the Journey hits “Don’t Stop Believin,’” “When You Love a Woman” and “Who’s Crying Now.” See that info here. How long will she stay married this time? Only time will tell!

Paula White-Jonathan Cain– Halloween red riding hood & bad wolf

 

Not only does she not know understand salvation, she has no idea what God says about divorce. Especially for a “practicing” Christian! Those two facts are disturbing enough, but what really disturbs me is the fact that she celebrates Halloween. Witches and Satanists consider that day to be one of the most holy days of the year. This picture, of Paula and her hubby, was taken as they celebrated Halloween 2015. She is dressed as little red riding hood and he as the big bad wolf.

 

How appropriate, as scripture says, in Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

 

In an interview with the Communists at Politico, White spoke some revealing words to those with discernment. The agenda of Atheists, Satanists and Witches at Politico is merely to mock and bring shame on Jesus Christ and Christians. I have no problem with them exposing fools like Paula White and others. They do their job well in that area. Of course, little effort is required when highlighting a false prophet like Paula White and others or her ilk. I constantly try to bait them by sending them my articles. I send them to all those God hating liberal news outlets. To no avail. They avoid the True Gospel of Jesus Christ that comes from this ministry. They are attuned to their overlord Satan who alerts them! Some excerpts from the interview are as follows:

 

“I can absolutely tell you that Mr. Trump has a relationship with God. He is a Christian, he accepts Jesus as his Lord and savior,” White said in a rare interview with POLITICO, reflecting on a relationship with the New York tycoon that has now spanned more than 14 years. The two first connected when Trump, who was watching Christian television, saw her onscreen and called her, saying she was “fantastic.”

 

According to her own words she has known Trump for 14 yrs. […..] relationship with the New York tycoon that has now spanned more than 14 years. So in those 14 years I can guarantee you that she shared the true Gospel with him. No, all she ever did was preach that prosperity crap in his ear, trying to ease his mind that God wants him to get richer! I don’t want to rehash what I have already written about Trump and the Quotes that have come out of HIS OWN Mouth, you can view those here: See Donald Trump an unsaved Rich Man.

 

“On her next trip to New York, the Florida-based White met with him, marking the start of a close, cross-country friendship. “Over the years, that [relationship] grew stronger and stronger,” she said of her ties to Trump. “I was in New York for many years. He has a very open-door policy. If I was in town, [he’d say], ‘Hey Paula, come by, hang out with friends, family.’ He’d allow me to sit in his office, be a part of his life, his world.”

 

White tells stories of walking up Fifth Avenue in New York with Trump and watching the real estate mogul cross the street to shake hands with construction workers. And there was the time he was showing her a new golf course in California and got out of the golf cart to thank a Latino man who was taking care of his sand traps. White, who still owns a unit at a Trump property in New York, said his employees at his buildings were loyal to him. To her, this serves as evidence that the cussing, controversial Trump is ultimately a man of God.”

 

Walking down the street being nice to people and shaking their hand does not make you a “man of God” Miss White! And on Mr. Trumps cussing:

 

Proverbs 4:24 “Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.”

 

Luke 6:45 “A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”

 

Ephesians 4:29 “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.”

 

Ephesians 5:4 “Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.”

 

James 3:10 “Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.”

 

Come on Paula, it is time to get beyond those prosperity and blessing scriptures you covet. Find out who is really bestowing those so called blessings you think are from God upon you. Read ALL of the scripture and find out what God really thinks and commands. You will find YOU Silly woman, that unless you repent and change your ways, you are doomed to Hell!!

 

2nd Timothy 3:6-7 “For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

 

“There’s a lot of people that have influenced Mr. Trump’s life,” she said. “One thing I can tell you, which absolutely might be new to some of the media, new to some people, but God is not new to Mr. Trump. He absolutely has a heart and a hunger and a relationship with God.”

 

Those hounds of Hell do not know what it is to have a relationship with God, so how can they say that!

 

Matthew 5:6 “Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.” 

 

What is righteousness Paula? Do you know? It is right standing with God according to HIS Word. Not the twisted words you are your money hungry cohorts profess!

 

What did Jesus tell the Woman at the Well? “Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again” John Chapter 4

 

I have a saying I coined some years ago, and is as follows:
If you go to the store to buy Meat, don’t run to the Milk Section or the Junk Food Aisle looking for it. 

The Meat Section is the True Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Milk Section is likened to those who will not preach on sin and Hell, just a feel good message.

The Junk Food Isle is the outright false doctrine AKA the prosperity gospel, name it and claim it, the purpose driven life, the Unitarians, the Chrislams, the Noahides, the Judizers, the Hebraic Roots movement and other false teachings!! Feasting on just Milk and Junk will eventually cause you great harm!!

 

“But she has also emphasized her wealth in her preaching and public appearances, causing critics to deride her as one who pushes “prosperity gospel,” a doctrine that says God wants people to be rich — and that more traditional religious leaders frown upon.

 

“Paula White is a charlatan and recognized as a heretic by every orthodox Christian, of whatever tribe,” read a recent tweet from Russell Moore, a prominent Southern Baptist leader and vocal Trump critic, who wasn’t available for an interview.”

 

If Trump does win the election and he is taking spiritual advice from this group of fools, we will be in no better shape than we would be if Hillary Clinton gets in and practices her Witchcraft. The end result will be God executing HIS wrath upon this Country, in either case! Mr. Trump, purge these Hounds of Hell from around you. Fire them! I can point you to several Godly Men and Women who will advise you properly and Biblically!

_________________________

Do You Judge Word of Faith?

John R. Houk

© December 27, 2017

 

Of interest:

 

How Can People Have the Wrong Motive for Giving to a Ministry?

 

Have We Misjudged the Word-Faith Movement?

________________________

Serious

 

Shared by Jyrki Soini

 

In the Chain of Human Events


Save The Peace Cross

 

Intro to ‘In the Chain of Human Events

John R. Houk

Intro date: 11/20/17

By Justin O. Smith

 

Justin Smith writes about Secular Humanist atheists winning a 4th Circuit Appellate Court case against Veterans that demanded the Peace Cross in Bladensburg, MD be removed from public property because it is just too Christian for those subscribing to what is essentially a Humanist religion that denies the existence of God Almighty the Creator.

 

Here are a couple of Secular Humanist quotes that the 4th Circuit essentially embraced:

 

“There is no place in the Humanist worldview for either immortality or God in the valid meanings of those terms. Humanism contends that instead of the gods creating the cosmos, the cosmos, in the individualized form of human beings giving rein to their imagination, created the gods.” (Corliss Lamont, The Philosophy of Humanism, (New York: Frederick Ungar, 1982) p. 145.)

 

“The classroom must and will become an area of conflict between the old and the new— the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with its adjacent evils and misery and the new faith of Humanism, resplendent in its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian idea of ‘Love thy Neighbor’ will finally be achieved.” (John J. Dunphy, “A Religion for a New Age,” The Humanist, January/February 1983, 26.)

 

Both of these quotes are found on the PDF: WORLDVIEW-SECULAR HUMANISM FACT SHEET; Summit Ministries; © 2016 – 2 pgs.)

 

SEE ALSO:

 

Conservapedia: Humanism

 

Conservapedia: Secular humanism

 

JRH 11/20/17

Please Support NCCR

****************

In the Chain of Human Events

 

By Justin O. Smith

Sent 11/18/2017 7:36 PM

 

To you from failing hands we throw the torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die we shall not sleep, though poppies grow in Flanders fields” — Lt Colonel John McCrae / Second Battle of Ypres

 

The forty foot tall Peace Cross in Bladensburg, Maryland, at the intersection of Maryland Route 450 and US Alternative Route 1 and just five miles from the U.S. Supreme Court, in the Court’s cross-hairs, is the object of the American Civil Liberties Union’s and atheists’ hatred, along with their hatred for many other inherently Christian Latin crosses in America, and it is also the source of incoherent confusion for too many federal judges. If the American people do not battle most fiercely to reverse the 4th Circuit Court’s recent ruling on October 18th, that found the Peace Cross presence on public land to be unconstitutional, these anti-American groups will boldly continue their purge of anything in the public square that remotely resembles religion; and, liberty and freedom cannot long survive, unless Americans once and for all definitively crush these advocates of a public arena free from God.

 

Started in 1918 and completed in 1925 using contributions from private donors and the American Legion, the Peace Cross honors 49 men from Prince George’s County, who died in WWI. It was erected on July 13th, 1925, and it has stood as a memorial and a gathering place for the community for 92 years, inscribed with the words VALOR, ENDURANCE, COURAGE and DEVOTION.

 

A two-to-one vote by a three judge panel overturned the Maryland District Court’s previous 2015 decision, that the use of a cross as a military symbol of courage, sacrifice and remembrance, does not mean the state sponsors a particular religion. The plaintiffs, American Humanist Association (AHA), alleged that the cross unconstitutionally endorsed Christianity, and the Court determined the memorial “excessively entangles the government in religion”, as they justified their decision through the fallacious notion of “separation of church and state”.

 

Chief Justice Roger Gregory wrote the dissent [***Blog Editor: Entire Dissent Below] and noted that the Establishment Clause does not require “purging” religion from the public square, but requires only governmental “neutrality” on religion. He added, “In my view, the court’s ruling confuses maintenance of a highway median and a monument in a state park with excessive religious entanglement.”

 

The First Amendment [Faith-Freedom.com & Wallbuilders] compels government not to eradicate religion from the public arena, and although it forbids the establishment of a state religion, it doesn’t forbid the sponsorship of religion. If the expression of religious beliefs is an inherent God-designed part of human nature, as the Declaration of Independence proclaims, then government acting to remove religion from the public square would have seemed to our Founding Fathers to be acting in a manner antithetical to our founding principles.

 

Even should the Peace Cross be solely a Christian symbol and not also a war memorial, the argument offered by the AHA is quite a stretch. Establishing a state religion is a deliberate act by the government, as in the manner the world witnessed the USSR implement militant atheism. It doesn’t happen through scattered memorials, that were erected by private groups long ago to remember the fallen.

 

However, the courts have not been consistent on this issue. In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled that the five foot cross erected in 1934 on Sunrise Rock, in the Mojave National Reserve, and also honoring Veterans, did not violate the Constitution; but in 2012, the Supreme Court let stand a lower court’s notion that the 43 foot tall Mount Soledad Memorial Cross, in La Jolla, California, was a violation of the First Amendment.

 

The Bladensburg Peace Cross, listed in the National Registry of Historical Places, is one of the few WWI monuments in the United States. It was erected during a time when the Cross was a commonly understood symbol of suffering, sacrifice and hope.

 

When exactly did the Peace Cross begin to violate the Constitution? Never.

 

In 92 years, the Cross remained unchanged, but America’s judges became intolerant activists after the 1947 Everson case. Leftist activist judges at all levels of the judiciary, who wallow in a sewer of anti-Americanism, have advanced the flawed premises of the anti-Christian bigots from groups like the AHA, and they have violated the Constitution in impermissible fashion, by interfering with the free exercise rights of people, who simply sought to acknowledge their Christian heritage and honor their war dead.

 

The First Liberty Institute and other defenders of the Peace Cross fear, that if the 4th Circuit refuses their request for the full court to reconsider the case, a dangerous precedent will be set. This will endanger other national treasures, such as the 24 foot Cross of Sacrifice, which was a gift from Canada that has stood in Arlington Cemetery for 90 years. The Argonne Cross, also at Arlington, marks the graves of more than two thousand Americans, whose remains were interred in 1920 from battlefield cemeteries in Europe.

 

The American Humanist Association has also sued the city of Pensacola, Florida over a cross that has stood in Bayview Park for 75 years, built on the eve of WWII. Pensacola Mayor Ashton Hayward describes the cross as “an integral part of my town’s fabric, a symbol to our local citizens — religious and nonreligious — of our proud history of coming together during hard times.” This case is on its way to the 11th Circuit Court.

 

Immediately after the October 18th ruling against the Peace Cross, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan wrote a letter to his attorney general directing him to support a legal challenge against the ruling. In part it read: “The conclusion that this memorial honoring Veterans violates the (Constitution’s) Establishment Clause offends common sense, is an affront to all Veterans, and should not be allowed to stand. I believe very strongly, that this cherished community memorial does not violate the Constitution. Your office will be Maryland’s legal voice in this important litigation.

 

While it may seem like a win each time a legal team saves one of these crosses, by illustrating its importance as a war memorial and settling for a land transfer, as performed by Congressman Duncan Hunter in the Mount Soledad Cross case, rejecting the distinct religious value the Cross has traditionally held in Christianity is not the proper direction. Our soldiers died protecting the rights that are defining characteristics of our democratic Republic and, specifically, our First Amendment. And with our religious liberties central to this issue, Congress must provide clarity to an establishment jurisprudence in shambles.

 

The idea that the public display of a Christian cross on public land should be forbidden is deeply anti-American. Our country’s topography is indelibly marked by crosses, so where does this all end for the AHA and militant atheists in their unhinged agenda to remove any semblance of religious symbolism from the public sphere?

 

Where will the atheists ever draw the line?

 

Regardless of who likes it or not, America was founded by a people, who were 98 percent Christian well into the 19th Century, and they intended America to be a Christian nation tolerant of all other religions. The first calls for America’s independence, in 1769, were issued by a group of young writers from Yale College, who were fiercely Christian, led by John Trumbull and Timothy Dwight.

 

John Quincy Adams, the sixth U.S. president, wrote: “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked to the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human governance upon the first precepts of Christianity.”

 

George Washington declared: “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.”

 

This attack on the Peace Cross is also an attack on America and an attempt to undermine the idea of America, predicated on each individual’s inherent right that lies deep within our heart and soul to have individual recourse to a power greater than the state. This is a war against our Christian faith and our shared memories that we must win, if we wish to prevent America’s descent toward the darkest days of antiquity and preserve for America’s Children the Heritage of Liberty our Founding Fathers left for us.

 

By Justin O. Smith

______________________

*** Chief Judge Roger Gregory dissent begin page 34 of PDF

 

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FOURTH CIRCUIT

No. 15-2597

 

AMERICAN HUMANIST ASSOCIATION; STEVEN LOWE; FRED EDWORDS; BISHOP MCNEILL, — Plaintiffs – Appellants,

 

v.

 

MARYLAND-NATIONAL CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION, — Defendant – Appellee,

 

THE AMERICAN LEGION; THE AMERICAN LEGION DEPARTMENT OF MARYLAND; THE AMERICAN LEGION COLMAR MANOR POST 131, — Intervenors/Defendants – Appellees,

 

=================

 

[Blog Editor: Chief Judge Roger Gregory dissent begin page 34 of PDF]

 

GREGORY, Chief Judge, concurring in part and dissenting in part:

 

I agree with the majority’s holding that Appellants have standing under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 to bring this action for a violation of the Establishment Clause. But I disagree with the majority’s ultimate conclusion that the display and maintenance of the war memorial in this case violates the Establishment Clause. I therefore respectfully dissent in part.

 

I.

 

The Establishment Clause provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” U.S. Const. amend. I. To properly understand and apply the Establishment Clause, it must be viewed “in the light of its history and the evils it was designed forever to suppress.” Everson v. Bd. of Educ., 330 U.S. 1, 14–15 (1947). The early colonization of America was a time marked with religious persecution. Immigrating settlers fled religious suppression in Europe only to be met with similar treatment in America. “[M]en and women of varied faiths who happened to be in a minority in a particular locality were persecuted because they steadfastly persisted in worshipping God only as their own consciences dictated.” Id. at 10. Those regarded as nonconformists were required “to support government-sponsored churches whose ministers preached inflammatory sermons designed to strengthen and consolidate the established faith by generating a burning hatred against dissenters.” Id.

 

The Establishment Clause was intended to combat the practice of “compel[ling individuals] to support and attend government favored churches.” Id. at 8; accord Myers v. Loudoun Cty. Pub. Sch., 418 F.3d 395, 402 (4th Cir. 2005). The Clause’s historical setting reveals that “[i]ts first and most immediate purpose rested on the belief that a union of government and religion tends to destroy government and to degrade religion.” Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421, 431 (1962). The realization of its goal meant that the government must “‘neither engage in nor compel religious practices,’ that it must ‘effect no favoritism among sects or between religion and nonreligion,’ and that it must ‘work deterrence of no religious belief.’” Van Orden v. Perry, 545 U.S. 677, 698 (2005) (Breyer, J., concurring) (plurality opinion) (quoting Abington School Dist. v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203, 305 (1963) (Goldberg, J., concurring)).

 

But the Clause does not require the government “to purge from the public sphere” any reference to religion. Id. at 699. “Such absolutism is not only inconsistent with our national traditions, but would also tend to promote the kind of social conflict the Establishment Clause seeks to avoid.” Id. (citations omitted). While neutrality may be the “touchstone” of the Establishment Clause, it more so serves as a “sense of direction” than a determinative test. McCreary Cty. v. Am. Civil Liberties Union, 454 U.S. 844 (2005). We cannot view neutrality as some sort of “brooding and pervasive devotion to the secular and a passive, or even active, hostility to the religious.” Schempp, 374 U.S. at 306 (Goldberg, J., concurring). Thus, in reviewing the challenged war memorial, this Court must seek general rather than absolute neutrality. We do so by engaging in the three-factor analysis delineated in Lemon v. Kurtzman (the “Lemon test”), which requires that the memorial have a secular purpose; have a principal or primary effect that neither advances, inhibits, nor endorses religion; and not foster “an excessive government entanglement with religion.” 403 U.S. 602, 612–13 (1971). The memorial “must satisfy each of the Lemon test’s three criteria” to pass constitutional muster. Lambeth v. Bd. of Comm’rs of Davidson Cty., 407 F.3d 266, 269 (4th Cir. 2005) (citing Mellen v. Bunting, 327 F.3d 355, 367 (4th Cir. 2003)).

 

A.

 

I will briefly reiterate the operative facts. In Bladensburg, Maryland, in a median at the intersection of Maryland Route 450 and U.S. Route 1, stands a war memorial consisting of a forty-foot-tall concrete Latin cross (the “Memorial”). The Memorial and the median are currently owned by Appellee Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission (the “Commission”). Intervenor-Appellee American Legion’s symbol is displayed in the middle of the cross on both faces. The cross sits on a base and includes a plaque that lists the names of the forty-nine Prince George’s County residents who died in World War I. J.A. 1891. The plaque also states, “THIS MEMORIAL CROSS DEDICATED TO THE HEROES OF PRINCE GEORGE’S COUNTY MARYLAND WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE GREAT WAR FOR THE LIBERTY OF THE WORLD,” and includes a quotation from President Woodrow Wilson. Id. Also, each face of the base is inscribed with one of four words: “VALOR,” “ENDURANCE,” “COURAGE,” and “DEVOTION.” J.A. 1963.

 

In 1918, a group of private citizens led the charge to construct and finance the Memorial. The donors signed a pledge stating that they, “trusting in God, the Supreme Ruler of the universe,” pledged their faith in the forty-nine war dead, whose spirits guided them “through life in the way of godliness, justice, and liberty.” J.A. 1168. The group also circulated a fundraising flyer stating,

 

Here, those who come to the Nation’s Capital to view the wonders of its architecture and the sacred places where their laws are made and administered may, before this Cross, rededicate[] themselves to the principles of their fathers and renew the fires of patriotism and loyalty to the nation which prompted these young men to rally to the defense of the right. And here the friends and loved ones of those who were in the great conflict will pass daily over a highway memorializing their boys who made the supreme sacrifice.

 

J.A. 2303.

 

A groundbreaking ceremony was held for the Memorial and for Maryland Route 450 (then known as the National Defense Highway) in late 1919. Several local officials spoke about the fallen soldiers and how both the Memorial and highway would commemorate their bravery and sacrifice. But the private group ultimately failed to raise enough money to construct the Memorial and abandoned the project. The local post of the American Legion, a congressionally chartered veterans service organization, then took up the task and completed the Memorial on July 25, 1925. That day, the post held a ceremony which included multiple speeches regarding the Memorial’s representation of the men who died fighting for this country and an invocation and benediction delivered by local clergymen.

 

Over time, additional monuments honoring veterans were built near the Memorial (known as the “Veterans Memorial Park”). Because the Memorial sits in the middle of a median and is separated by a busy highway intersection, the closest additional monument is about 200 feet away. Since the Memorial’s completion, numerous events have been hosted there to celebrate Memorial Day, Veterans Day, the Fourth of July, and the remembrance of September 11th. These ceremonies usually include an invocation and benediction, but the record demonstrates that only three Sunday religious services were held at the Memorial—all of which occurred in August 1931. J.A. 347.

 

Due to increasing traffic on the highway surrounding it, the Commission acquired the Memorial and the median where it is located from the American Legion in March 1961. Since that time, the Commission has spent approximately $117,000 to maintain and repair the Memorial. In 2008, it set aside an additional $100,000 for renovations, of which only $5,000 has been spent as of 2015. J.A. 562–65. On February 25, 2014, more than fifty years after the Memorial passed into state ownership, Appellants initiated this suit against the Commission under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 alleging a violation of the Establishment Clause.

 

B.

 

By concluding that the Memorial violates the Establishment Clause, the majority employed the Lemon test “with due consideration given to the factors outlined in Van Orden.” Maj. Op. at 16. In Van Orden, a plurality of the Supreme Court determined that the Lemon test was not useful when evaluating a “passive monument.” 545 U.S. at 686. Instead, the Court’s analysis was “driven both by the nature of the monument and by our Nation’s history.” Id. As the majority recognizes, Justice Breyer’s concurrence is the controlling opinion in Van Orden. Maj. Op. at 14. Justice Breyer states that the Court’s Establishment Clause tests, such as Lemon, cannot readily explain the Clause’s tolerance of religious activities in “borderline cases,” as there is “no single mechanical formula that can accurately draw the constitutional line in every case.” Van Orden, 454 U.S. at 699– 700 (Breyer, J., concurring). “If the relation between government and religion is one of separation, but not of mutual hostility and suspicion, one will inevitably find difficult borderline cases.” Id. at 700. Instead of applying Lemon to the challenged Ten Commandments display, Justice Breyer exercised his “legal judgment” and evaluated the context of the display and how the undeniably religious text of the Commandments was used. Id. at 700–04. His concurrence, however, also noted that Lemon provides a “useful guidepost[]—and might well lead to the same result”—for “no exact formula can dictate a resolution to such fact-intensive cases.” Id. at 700.

 

Relying on Lemon, and drawing guidance from Van Orden, the majority determined that the Commission articulated a legitimate secular purpose for displaying the Memorial. Nevertheless, the majority concluded that the Memorial failed Lemon’s second and third factors, finding that a reasonable observer would conclude that the Memorial has the primary effect of endorsing religion and the Commission’s maintenance of the Memorial constitutes excessive entanglement with religion. In my view, the majority misapplies Lemon and Van Orden to the extent that it subordinates the Memorial’s secular history and elements while focusing on the obvious religious nature of Latin crosses themselves; constructs a reasonable observer who ignores certain elements of the Memorial and reaches unreasonable conclusions; and confuses maintenance of a highway median and monument in a state park with excessive religious entanglement.

 

III.

 

Because Appellants do not challenge the district court’s finding that the Commission has demonstrated a secular purpose for displaying and maintaining the Memorial (the first Lemon factor), I will discuss in turn the majority’s evaluation of the second and third Lemon factors—whether the Memorial has the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion and whether the government is excessively entangled with religion.

 

A.

 

Under Lemon’s second factor, we must determine “whether a particular display, with religious content, would cause a reasonable observer to fairly understand it in its particular setting as impermissibly advancing or endorsing religion.” Lambeth, 407 F.3d at 271. This reasonable observer inquiry “requires the hypothetical construct of an objective observer who knows all of the pertinent facts and circumstances surrounding the [display] and its placement.” Salazar v. Buono, 559 U.S. 700, 721 (2010) (plurality opinion). We should not ask “whether there is any person who could find an endorsement of religion, whether some people may be offended by the display, or whether some reasonable person might think the State endorses religion.” Capitol Square Review & Advisory Bd. v. Pinette, 515 U.S. 753, 780 (1995) (O’Connor, J., concurring) (internal quotation marks omitted). Instead, we must determine “whether . . . the display’s principal or primary effect is to advance or inhibit religion; or, put differently, whether an informed, reasonable observer would view the display as an endorsement of religion.” Lambeth, 407 F.3d at 272.

 

It is undeniable that the Latin cross is the “preeminent symbol of Christianity.” Maj. Op. at 18. But we must be careful not to “focus exclusively on the religious component” of a display, as that “would inevitably lead to its invalidation under the Establishment Clause.” Lambeth, 407 F.3d at 271 (quoting Lynch v. Donnelly, 465 U.S. 668, 680 (1984)). Indeed, the Supreme Court “has consistently concluded that displays with religious content—but also with a legitimate secular use—may be permissible under the Establishment Clause.” Id. (citing Cty. of Allegheny v. Am. Civil Liberties Union, 492 U.S. 573, 579 (1989)). A reasonable observer would be aware that the cross is “not merely a reaffirmation of Christian beliefs,” for it is “often used to honor and respect those whose heroic acts, noble contributions, and patient striving help secure an honored place in history for this Nation and its people.” Buono, 559 U.S. at 721.

 

Despite the religious nature of the Latin cross, a reasonable observer must also adequately consider the Memorial’s physical setting, history, and usage. The Memorial was created to commemorate the forty-nine soldiers who lost their lives in World War I, as explicitly stated on the plaque attached to its base. See J.A. 1891 (“THIS MEMORIAL CROSS DEDICATED TO THE HEROES OF PRINCE GEORGE’S COUNTY MARYLAND WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN THE GREAT WAR FOR THE LIBERTY OF THE WORLD.”). The plaque also includes a quotation from President Woodrow Wilson stating, “The right is more precious than peace. We shall fight for the things we have always carried nearest our hearts. To such a task we dedicate our lives.” Id. Each face of the cross includes the American Legion seal and each face of the base is inscribed with one of four words: “VALOR,” “ENDURANCE,” “COURAGE,” and “DEVOTION.” J.A. 1963. The Memorial has functioned as a war memorial for its entire history, and it sits among other secular monuments in Veterans Memorial Park, though it is separated from the other monuments by intersecting highways.

 

The majority concludes that the size of the Latin cross making up the Memorial overwhelms these secular elements. In the majority’s view, the Memorial is unconstitutional based predominantly on the size of the cross, and neither its secular features nor history could overcome the presumption. But such a conclusion is contrary to our constitutional directive. We must fairly weigh the appearance, context, and factual background of the challenged display when deciding the constitutional question. See Lynch, 465 U.S. at 679–80; Cty. of Allegheny, 492 U.S. at 598–600. Although a reasonable observer would properly notice the Memorial’s large size, she would also take into account the plaque, the American Legion symbol, the four-word inscription, its ninety-year history as a war memorial, and its presence within a vast state park dedicated to veterans of other wars. Would the majority’s version of a reasonable observer be satisfied and better equipped to evaluate the Memorial’s history and context if the cross were smaller? Perhaps if it were the same size as the other monuments in the park? Though Establishment Clause cases require a fact-intensive analysis, we must bear in mind our responsibility to provide the government and public with notice of actions that violate the Constitution. What guiding principle can be gleaned from the majority’s focus on the cross’s size? Understandably, the majority’s decision would lead to per se findings that all large crosses are unconstitutional despite any amount of secular history and context, in contravention of Establishment Clause jurisprudence.

 

The majority also makes much of the Memorial’s isolation from the other monuments in Veterans Memorial Park, as it sits in the median of a now busy highway, making it difficult to access. But a reasonable observer would note that the Memorial was placed there as part of the concurrent creation of the National Defense Highway to commemorate the soldiers of World War I, not as a means of endorsing religion. And, though Veterans Memorial Park does not include any other religious symbols as memorials, there is no evidence that the state formally foreclosed the possibility of erecting any other religious symbol. Also, the reasonable observer would note that the Memorial’s physical setting does not lend itself to any religious worship. Van Orden, 545 U.S. at 702 (stating that religious display’s location in large park containing other monuments suggested “little or nothing sacred,” as it illustrated residents’ historical ideals and “did not readily lend itself to meditation or any other religious activity”).

 

Additionally, due to the Memorial’s location, the majority explains that a reasonable observer would not be able to easily examine the Memorial’s secular elements. Maj. Op. at 23. This is because the Memorial “is located in a high-traffic area and passers-by would likely be unable to read the plaque,” which is small and badly weathered. Id. at 23. However, the reasonable observer’s knowledge is not “limited to the information gleaned simply from viewing the challenged display.” Pinette, 515 U.S. at 780–81 (O’Connor, J., concurring). That the average person in the community may have difficulty viewing all of the secular elements of the Memorial while stuck in traffic or driving at high speeds is of no consequence, for the reasonable observer “is not to be identified with any ordinary individual, . . . but is rather a personification of a community ideal of reasonable behavior” who is “deemed aware of the history and context of the community and forum in which the religious display appears.” Id. at 779–80 (internal quotation marks and citations omitted). Thus, the reasonable observer’s ability to consider these secular elements is by no means diminished.

 

Further, quoting Trunk v. City of San Diego, 629 F.3d 1099, 1116 n.18 (9th Cir. 2011), the majority states that the large size and isolation of the Memorial “evokes a message of aggrandizement and universalization of religion, and not the message of individual memorialization and remembrance that is presented by a field of gravestones.” Maj. Op. at 22. In Trunk, the Ninth Circuit considered a forty-three-foot free-standing cross and veterans memorial erected in a state park. 629 F.3d at 1101. The court evaluated the history of the Latin cross generally, its use as a war memorial, the history of the particular war memorial at issue, and its physical setting. Id. at 1102–05, 1110–24. The cross in Trunk had no secular elements; instead, it was unadorned and without any physical indication that it was a war memorial until after litigation was initiated to remove it. Id. at 1101–02; see also Smith v. Cty. of Albemarle, 895 F.2d 953, 958 (4th Cir. 1990) (concluding that crèche, unassociated with any secular symbols, prominently displayed in front of government building, and unaccompanied by any other religious or nonreligious displays, conveyed message of governmental endorsement of religion). The court concluded that a reasonable observer would perceive the presence of the cross as the federal government’s endorsement of Christianity, due in part to its long history of serving as a site of religious observance, with no indication of any secular purpose for almost three decades. Id. at 1125.

 

But here, the Memorial has always served as a war memorial, has been adorned with secular elements for its entire history, and sits among other memorials in Veterans Memorial Park. The Memorial’s predominant use has been for Veterans Day and Memorial Day celebrations, although three religious services were conducted at the Memorial nearly ninety years ago. Also, the invocations and benedictions performed at the annual veterans celebrations are not enough to cause a reasonable observer to perceive the Memorial as an endorsement of Christianity in light of its overwhelmingly secular history and context. Further, guidance from Van Orden provides that the Memorial’s ninety-year existence and fifty-year government ownership without litigation is a strong indication that the reasonable observer perceived its secular message. See 545 U.S. at 702–03 (stating that challenged monument’s presence on government property for forty years provided determinative factor that it conveyed predominately secular message). The Memorial stands at a busy intersection, yet this case is the first time the Memorial has been challenged as unconstitutional. Those fifty years strongly suggest “that few individuals, whatever their system of beliefs, are likely to have understood the [Memorial] as amounting, in any significantly detrimental way, to a government effort . . . primarily to promote religion over nonreligion,” or to “engage in,” “compel,” or deter any religious practice or beliefs. Id. at 702 (quoting Schempp, 374 U.S. at 305 (Goldberg, J., concurring)); see also Buono, 559 U.S. at 716 (“Time also has played its role. [After] nearly seven decades[,] . . . the cross and the cause it commemorated had become entwined in the public consciousness.”). This significant passage of time must factor into the Court’s analysis and “help[] us understand that as a practical matter of degree [the Memorial] is unlikely to prove divisive.” Van Orden, 545 U.S. at 702.

 

With the foregoing facts, circumstances, and principles in mind, I conclude that a reasonable observer would understand that the Memorial, while displaying a religious symbol, is a war memorial built to celebrate the forty-nine Prince George’s County residents who gave their lives in battle. Such an observer would not understand the effect of the Commission’s display of the Memorial—with such a commemorative past and set among other memorials in a large state park—to be a divisive message promoting Christianity over any other religion or nonreligion. A cross near a busy intersection “need not be taken as a statement of governmental support for sectarian beliefs. The Constitution does not oblige government to avoid any public acknowledgment of religion’s role in society. Rather, it leaves room to accommodate divergent values within a constitutionally permissible framework.” Buono, 559 U.S. at 718–19 (citations omitted). We must be careful not to push the Establishment Clause beyond its purpose in search of complete neutrality. “[U]ntutored devotion to the concept of neutrality can lead to invocation or approval of results which partake not simply of that noninterference and noninvolvement with the religious which the Constitution commands,” but of extreme commitment to the secular, “or even active, hostility to the religious.” Van Orden, 545 U.S. at 699 (quoting Schempp, 374 U.S. at 306 (Goldberg, J., concurring)). Finding that a reasonable observer would perceive the Memorial as an endorsement of Christianity would require that we pursue a level of neutrality beyond our constitutional mandate. I therefore conclude that the Memorial does not violate the second factor of the Lemon test.

 

B.

 

The Lemon test’s final factor asks whether the challenged display has created an “excessive entanglement” between government and religion. Lambeth, 407 F.3d at 272– 73. “The kind of excessive entanglement of government and religion precluded by Lemon is characterized by ‘comprehensive, discriminating, and continuing state surveillance.’” Id. at 273 (quoting Lemon, 403 U.S. at 619). This inquiry is one of “kind and degree,” Lynch, 465 U.S. at 684, “and because some interaction between church and state is inevitable, the Supreme Court has reaffirmed that the ‘[e]ntanglement must be “excessive” before it runs afoul of the Establishment Clause,’” Koenick v. Felton, 190 F.3d 259, 268 (4th Cir. 1999) (quoting Agostini v. Felton, 521 U.S. 203, 233 (1997)).

 

The majority concludes that the Memorial fosters excessive entanglement because of the Commission’s ownership and maintenance of the Memorial. But the Commission’s maintenance of the Memorial and the land surrounding it could hardly be considered the sort of state surveillance that Lemon intends to prohibit. See Lemon, 403 U.S. at 615–20 (concluding that challenged action excessively entangled state with religion by requiring state to supplement salaries for teachers in parochial schools); see also Mellen, 327 F.3d at 375 (determining that public university’s supper prayer violated Lemon’s third prong because school officials “composed, mandated, and monitored a daily prayer”). Rather, the Commission is merely maintaining a monument within a state park and a median in between intersecting highways that must be well lit for public safety reasons. There is no evidence that the Commission consults with any churches or religious organizations to determine who may access the Memorial for events. Nor is there evidence that the Commission is required to be involved in any church-related activities to maintain the Memorial.

 

Further, the majority observes that “any use of public funds to promote religious doctrines violates the Establishment Clause.” Bowen v. Kendrick, 487 U.S. 589, 623 (1988) (O’Connor, J., concurring). But, in Agostini, the Supreme Court held that a federally funded program that paid public school teachers to teach disadvantaged children in parochial schools did not cause an excessive entanglement between church and state. 521 U.S. at 234–35. Likewise, the Commission’s use of $122,000 over the course of fifty-plus years for lighting and upkeep is not a promotion of any religious doctrine, as the Memorial is a historical monument honoring veterans.

 

I therefore conclude that the Memorial does not violate the third factor of the Lemon test.

 

*         *         *                              

 

This Memorial stands in witness to the VALOR, ENDURANCE, COURAGE, and DEVOTION of the forty-nine residents of Prince George’s County, Maryland “who lost their lives in the Great War for the liberty of the world.” I cannot agree that a monument so conceived and dedicated and that bears such witness violates the letter or spirit of the very Constitution these heroes died to defend. Accordingly, I would affirm the district court’s judgment.

______________

Edited by John R. Houk

Source links as well as text embraced by brackets are by the Editor.

 

© Justin O. Smith

Matt Barber: 27 church members slain were Martyrs for Christ


Jesus said:

 

12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask[a]anything in My name, I will do it. (John 14: 12-14 NKJV)

Have you heard of or perhaps remember Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD? Dr. Klingenschmitt served as a Navy Chaplain. In 2006 Dr. Klingenschmitt prayed “in Jesus’ Name” as the Lord Jesus told His disciples to do.

 

Klingenschmitt, as WND has reported, has fought an extended battle with the Navy over its restrictions on religious expression by its chaplains. He appeared and delivered a public prayer “in Jesus’ name” at a White House rally last winter and was court-martialed for that. The Navy convicted him of failing to follow a lawful order because his superior didn’t want him praying “in Jesus’ name.” (NAVY DISMISSES CHAPLAIN WHO PRAYED ‘IN JESUS’ NAME’; By BOB UNRUH; WND; 01/12/2007 1:00 AM)

 

Dr. Klingenschmitt chose to obey the Lord over an absurd Navy order and got his walking papers for doing so. The silver lining was Congress passed legislation to pray in the Name of Jesus in 2007 (Ibid.). The bad news was the Navy never reinstated his commission as a Chaplain.

 

Anyone that stands with the principles of over any civil employer, government employer and/or military employer; is awesome.

 

In saying all that, I received Dr. Klingenschmitt’s newsletter today. The subject matter is about the Sutherland Springs Massacre, the victims’ faith and an interview with Matt Barber over the atrocity.

A heads up: the good chaplain fund raises by suggesting you join a mass fax of which money is required to send.

 

JRH 11/9/17

Please Support NCCR

******************

Matt Barber: 27 church members slain were Martyrs for Christ

 

From Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD

Sent 11/9/2017 7:18 AM

Sent via Pray in Jesus Name Project

 

Please select here to sign urgent petition, and we will fax all 100 Senators (saving you time!) to PROTECT MILITARY CHAPLAINS RIGHT TO PRAY “IN JESUS’ NAME” or according to their conscience.  Or sign free option here.

 

I just had the privilege of interviewing Christian attorney Matt Barber about the horrific shooting and death of 27 Christians in Texas, killed because of their Christian faith.

Matt Barber explained on our TV show several things:

 

1)  The victims were martyrs for Jesus Christ, including the 14-year old pastor’s daughter.
2)  The atheist shooter Devon Kelley hated Christians and repeatedly said so.
3)  The neighbor hero Stephen Willeford was a first-responder who shot the bad guy.
4)  The left blames the NRA but Kelley was not NRA and Willeford was.
5)  The left shoots Christians and then demands Christians disarm without self-defense.

 

Watch!  Dr. Chaps’ new TV interview with Matt Barber about the Texas shooting

 

Posted by Gordon James Klingenschmitt

Published on Nov 7, 2017

 

Sadly, this is a time of great mourning.

As the Bible says in Ecclesiastes 3, there is a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance… a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.

 

We choose to love and forgive our enemies, and yet as we mourn, we also arm ourselves in self-defense to prepare for the left’s coming war against God and the Church.

If only the shooter Kelley had heard the gospel of Jesus’ love from a chaplain before his bad-conduct discharge.  Let’s petition Congress for chaplains rights to pray “in Jesus’ name”:

Please select here to sign urgent petition, and we will fax all 100 Senators (saving you time!) to PROTECT MILITARY CHAPLAINS RIGHT TO PRAY “IN JESUS’ NAME” or according to their conscience.  Or sign free option here.

Atheist shooter hated Christians, killed 27 in Texas Church

Interviews with those who knew the Texas church shooter now reveal his beliefs.

“According to former classmates of Devin Patrick Kelley, the 26-year-old man who killed 26 people and injured over 20 others in a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas on Sunday was an avowed atheist who mocked those who believed in God,” reports DailyWire.

“DailyMail.com spoke with former classmates who attended New Braunfels High School with Kelley. They all told a similar story: Kelley — who had a history of violence and was given a ‘bad conduct’ discharge from the Air Force — ‘preached atheism,’ acted ‘creepy’ and ‘weird,’ and seemed to hold a ‘very negative’ worldview.

“He had a kid or two, fairly normal, but kinda quiet and lately seemed depressed,” Kelley’s former high school classmate Patrick Boyce told DailyMail.com. “He was the first atheist I met. He went Air Force after high school, got discharged but I don’t know why. I was just shocked [to hear the news].”

 

Devin Patrick Kelley

“Another former classmate, Nina Rose Nava, told the outlet that Kelley ‘was different in school and creeped me out,’ but she added that she ‘never’ would have thought he would do ‘such a horrific thing.’…It’s not something I expected from him. He was an outcast but not a loner. He was popular among other outcast[s].”

“Though Nava said the two hadn’t spoken in person since high school, until recently they had been friends on Facebook. In a post, she said she had ‘just deleted him’ from her Facebook account because she ‘couldn’t stand’ his insulting posts.

“[I]n complete shock! I legit just deleted him off my [Facebook] cause I couldn’t stand his post,” wrote Nava. “He was always talking about how people who believe in God [were] stupid and trying to preach his atheism.”
On Sunday, Kelley — armed with a Ruger rifle and several rounds of ammunition and wearing black tactical gear and a ballistic vest — opened fired during the 11 a.m. service at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, killing 26 and injuring 24, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the history of Texas. His shooting spree came to an end when a heroic armed man got into a shootout with Kelley and forced him into a high speed chase. Kelley died of what authorities believe to be a self-inflicted gun wound.

[Dr. Chaps’ comment:  If only a chaplain had reached this confused man in the Air Force with the power of Jesus’ name.  Atheists like Kelley believe there is no God, no consequence for sin, and no ultimate justice for the victims of this horrific murderer.  They will discover they’re wrong, and there is a God, and His justice will prevail.]

Let’s petition Congress for chaplains rights to pray “in Jesus’ name”:

Please select here to sign urgent petition, and we will fax all 100 Senators (saving you time!) to PROTECT MILITARY CHAPLAINS RIGHT TO PRAY “IN JESUS’ NAME” or according to their conscience.  Or sign free option here.

God Bless you, in Jesus’ name,

 

Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD
_________________________

Donate to Pray in Jesus Name Project

 

Prefer to donate by mail?  Please write:  The Pray In Jesus Name Project, PO Box 77077, Colorado Springs, CO  80970.  

 

Who is Dr. Chaps?   Read bio here.

 

“A voice calling out in the wilderness of this world, Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD is a man on a mission.  As a statesman and Christian activist, ‘Chaps’ wants to liberate the world with no-nonsense messages of truth and prayers of discernment.  Through his strong personal convictions and direct communication style, he reaches into the hearts of people to help them become active disciples of Jesus, through television, prayer, petitioning, political activism, and education, drawing others toward their highest purpose and destiny.”

 

PhD Theology, National TV host, Political Activist, College Faculty, former State Legislator, and the former Navy Chaplain who dared to pray “in Jesus’ name.”

 

Dr. Chaps is TV news anchor of PIJN NEWS, a daily 1/2 hour show that reports the news, discerns the spirits, and prays the scriptures, in Jesus’ name

 

Read full Klingenschmitt Curriculum Vitae and Resume here

 

SUMMARY: Gordon James Klingenschmitt (aka “Dr. Chaps”) is the national TV show host of PIJN NEWS on the NRB network which airs in 54 million homes daily, former State Representative having won election to the Colorado legislature, occasional affiliate faculty at Colorado Christian University, Air Force Academy graduate in Political Science, and made national headlines as the former Navy Chaplain who dared to pray “in Jesus’ name.”   An ordained Pentecostal minister, he earned his PhD in Theology from Regent University and is ranked among “the top 1% most endorsed in United States for Preaching” by Linkedin in 2013.

 

He is now a motivational speaker, telling his true story of READ THE REST

 

There is a Reason for Evil – Prayer Still Defeats Evil


John R. Houk

© November 8, 2017

You’d think even a godless person that knows right from wrong (to the best extant that is even possible) would concur the massacre in a Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs Texas was a horrific incident that should instill national unity rather than divisive comments from Leftists in Hollywood and the MSM, RIGHT?

 

AND I am not even speaking about the idiocy of gun control! After all, it was a former NRA gun instructor (Stephen Willeford) – with a gun – that prevented Devin Kelley from more than 26 or 27 (depending who you read) already butchered with bullets – men, women and children.

 

I am talking about the godless who went public with their thoughts that “prayer” did little for the Christian in Church who were wounded or dead. Instead Leftists demanded gun control would be more effective than prayer to Almighty God. Keep in mind Kelley’s acquisitions of guns happened even though gun laws should have prevented such and gun owner Stephan Willeford more than likely stopped a greater death toll with his gun.

 

A call for more gun control merely enables crooks gain illegal gun acquisitions while keeping guns out of the hands of responsible people.

 

Dems negating prayer by increasing ineffective gun control:

 

Seth Moulton – Dem Rep from Massachusetts:

 

“We are praying – but prayers won’t fix this or prevent it from happening again. … Let’s also pray that you find the courage to do your job.”

 

Richard Blumenthal – Dem Senator from Connecticut:

 

“Horror, heartbreak, shame. Prayers are important but insufficient. After another unspeakable tragedy, Congress must act – or be complicit.”

 

John Lewis – Dem Rep from Georgia:

 

“We must do more than mourn and pray for those murdered in Texas. We must act.”

 

Pramila Jayapal – Dem Rep from Washington State:

 

“They were praying when it happened. They don’t need our prayers. They need us to address gun violence crisis & pass sensible regulation.”

 

(Dem Left quotes from– ‘Thoughts and Prayers Are Not Enough.’ Gun Control Advocates Demand Action After Texas Shooting; By Katie Reilly; Time.com; 11/6/17)

 

Leftist Hollywood

 

Mia Farrow:

 

“prayers and thoughts don’t seem to be working. We NEED reasonable gun laws. Do your job” (quote from — Thoughts and Prayers Are Not Enough.’ Gun Control Advocates Demand Action After Texas Shooting; By Katie Reilly; Time.com; 11/6/17)

 

Wil Wheaton:

 

“Will Wheaton responded to the deadly shooting at First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs on Sunday by tweeting: ‘The murdered victims were in a church. If prayers did anything, they’d still be alive, you worthless sack of s***.’ [The “you” refers to Speaker Ryan] (Wil Wheaton Fire Tweet Lashing Paul Ryan; By CHRIS SPARGO; Daily Mail; 11/6/17 09:13 EST – Updated 14:41 EST)

 

Leftist MSM

 

Joy Reid:

 

“Enough with the “thoughts and prayers already.” The Bible teaches us that faith without works is dead. Do something or say nothing.” (quote from–  ‘Thoughts and Prayers Are Not Enough.’ Gun Control Advocates Demand Action After Texas Shooting; By Katie Reilly; Time.com; 11/6/17)

 

Don Lemon:

 

CNN Tonight host Don Lemon went on a nearly-four-minute-long commentary on Monday emphasizing that he’s not “not anti-thoughts and prayers,” but demanded Congress defeat the NRA and pass gun control measures that wouldn’t have stopped Sunday’s Sutherland Springs church shooting.

Lemon read a few tweets from Republicans following the massacre and then mocked them by repeatedly muttering “thoughts and prayers” under this breath. …

From there, Lemon seemed to discount the notion that prayers aren’t always answered in how one expects and that there’s evil in the world when he bemoaned how “thoughts and prayers” didn’t stop the shooter.

“Thoughts and prayers did not stop an oversight from the justice system which enabled a guy who attacked his stepson and assaulted his wife from getting a gun. Thoughts and prayers didn’t stop a troubled person from buying assault-grade weapons that took the lives of 26 people in an instant,” he added.

Lemon could have stopped there …

Of course, that’s not what Lemon did. He continued by claiming that “[t]his is not at all about the Second Amendment or taking guns out of the hands of responsible gun owners.”

 

“I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment. I’ll say that again. I am firm believer in the Second Amendment. 

If you’ve ever read someone going this far to make clear that you’re not for gun control, here’s a spoiler alert of sorts: This means they’re for gun control.

And sure enough, Lemon went on to float the very notion that he just claimed he’s not advocating for:

But think about this. How many guns and of what caliber does one person need? Does a civilian really need an arsenal? Does a civilian really need body armor? Those are good questions that we should all be asking. Maybe you think they should, but we should at least be asking those questions. Those are the questions our leaders should be debating. Our leaders should be leading, not following. 

… (Lemon Argues Prayer Didn’t Stop Sutherland Springs, Hints Irrelevant Gun Control Would Have; By Curtis Houck; NewsBusters.org; 11/7/17 5:58 PM EST)

Friends this is only a sample of people discrediting prayer and wanting to end the 2nd Amendment Right to protect oneself with gun control that enables greater power to thugs and less power to YOU.

 

People still devoted to the faith of the Word of God – Biblical Faith – comprehend why evil functions in this world. The reason begins with the God’s record of the creation of humanity. The very creation mocked by the irreligious Left as a myth.

 

Genesis presents Creation as a six-day process in which He rested on the seventh (our Saturday). If you are dedicated to Biblical faith you will be part of the theological argument, that God’s Creation was six 24-hour periods. Much to the displeasure of my son, I’m not into the six 24-hour period creation. There are some who discovered verses relating to one-day for God is as 1000-years to we created humans (Psalm 90: 1-4; 2 Peter 3: 8 NKJV).

 

The 1000 years for me explained that God made a natural order. I still believe the Almighty could have blinked and Shazzam, Creation came to be. On a personal, it is my guess the Shazzam method was not God’s modus operandi in Creation. This is why I interpret the 1000-years=1-day to God probably relates to a concept of a long time rather than a specific measurable time. If that messes with your theology, please forgive me. I am not dogmatic about the theory.

 

Getting to Creation and humanity. God made man (as in humanity) male and eventually female. Man was made in the image of God which clue you into a general appearance of the Almighty but not a specific rendering. The Creation man was on the sixth creation epoch:

 

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[a] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

 

31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. (Genesis 1: 26-27, 31 NKJV)

 

It is important to note and dwell on verse 31: “… God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good.”

 

God’s Creation “was” very good. Meaning no sickness, no death, natural disasters, no inherent wickedness on the Earth and so on that would be the opposite of very good. (In Genesis Chapter 2 God reveals the process of male created first then the female. Secular minded scholars will tell you this is another document that was merged in antiquity into our current Bible. I don’t buy scholarly theories that discredit God’s Word.)

 

What in the world happened between “very good” and evil’s existence in our present age? The explanation is in Genesis Chapter 3. You really should read the whole chapter, but for brevity’s sake, here are the highlights:

 

And the woman said to the serpent [serpent=Satan=The Devil], “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’”

 

[THE DECEPTION]

 

Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

 

[Rebelling against God’s Command and becoming a servant of Satan by believing lies]

 

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. [Adam were clothed glory, the glory-clothing disappeared in rebellion and were actually naked]

 

[Not taking responsibility for own actions is the 2nd evidence evil had entered God’s Creation]

 

11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12 Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

 

[Serpent was cursed by being synonymous with Satan and Satan cursed with the foretelling a son born from a woman will someday …]

 

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent:

 

“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel
.”

 

[Female descendants of Eve are cursed]

 

16 To the woman He said:

 

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”

 

[Male descendants of Adam are cursed]

 

17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

 

“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.” (Genesis 3: 2-7, 11-19 NKJV)

 

In Sunday school you may have learned Adam’s (and descendants) curse was to toil for his family unit to live. In other words, no work means no eat. Probably what you didn’t learn in Sunday school was “Cursed is the ground for your sake”. The “ground” is all that exists on Earth from evil acts of beasts and humanity to horrific natural disasters.

 

In essence Adam and Eve unwittingly yet willingly separated themselves from God. Thus, Adam and Eve “surely” died by eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Without Jesus, humans are dead people walking. No Redemption from this separation means the Second Death, which is Eternal Separation from God.

 

As soon as Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, the authority given to them of the Earth was transferred to Satan making the Devil the god of this world until Jesus returns the second and last time through the Devil in chains in the Lake of Fire with those unrepentant choosing to ally with Satan over obedience to the Creator.

 

There is a Devil. Jesus Christ the Son of God defeated the Devil with Resurrection power available to all who Believe. Is the Devil still here? Yes. The Devil’s last and final defeat occurs after humanity’s last test of who is with God and who is not. Read the back of the book – The Revelation of Jesus to John the Apostle.

 

Until Jesus returns to Redeem the entire planet from the curse of Adam, we have the power of prayer via Redemption activated on Earth by the Holy Spirit. The actions of Believers are only as effective as we are aligned to the power of God through the Holy Spirit. Sometimes protection comes by Holy Spirit led people who thwart the designs of the Devil. In Sutherland Springs Texas, that person was Stephan Willeford armed with a gun and Johnnie Langendorff the side-kick car driver.

 

The inspiration for these thoughts deserve some reading as well. Hence the below cross post.

 

JRH 11/8/17

Please Support NCCR

**************

Actual Demons Are Actually Real

 

By Erick Erickson

November 6, 2017, 05:00am

The Resurgent

 

The Bible makes clear what a lot of people seldom ever think about. Demons are real. Protestants tend to think it is all Catholic talk and secularists think it is all in the movies. But evil is a very real thing and demons are part of it. Though we may not see them commonly, they are there and the church shooting in Texas should remind us of that.

 

“Where is your God?” the secularists heckle as the American progressives and Nazis and Soviets and Romans and Persians and Philistines all have heckled Christ’s church. He sits on his throne, still sovereign, mourning the dead and welcoming them into His kingdom. On this earth, as it grows more secular, we should expect more of this as evil creeps back in. I think Augustine was right that evil exists in the absence of God.

 

Missionaries to far off places often have similar stories. The natives are stirred to faith by dreams. But as the gospel moves in there in the shadows the missionaries will sometimes encounter the demonic. It may take the form of a witch doctor or a demonic possession. They are not just in the Bible.

 

Secularists dismiss this all as superstition. But Christian missionaries are eye witnesses in many cases and Christian churches need to wake up and realize the evil creeping back in with the rising tide of secularism in America. There will be more church shootings. There will be more persecution of Christians. There will be more evil, often masked under the guise of progressive enlightenment. It all comes as American society increasingly shoves God aside.

 

We do not know all the details of the shooter in Texas. But we should recognize evil and call it evil. And churches should see what happened in Texas and what is happening to culture as a whole and start preparing their congregations for a harder life in the United States. Actual demons are actually real. They take many forms. But they are all evil and all wish to harm the church.

++++

MSNBC Reporter Asks ‘Are Prayers Enough?’ in Wake of Church Massacre

 

By Billy Hallowell, Senior Editor

November 7, 2017

FaithWire.com

 

Paul Buford, pastor of River Oaks Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, had a pointed response on Monday when an MSNBC reporter asked him if prayers are really enough in the wake of the horrific mass shooting at First Baptist Church.

 

READ: They Lost a Child, Grandchild and Great-Grandchildren During the Texas Church Massacre — Here’s Their Powerful Response

 

“I think, absolutely they are,” Buford, whose church is just two miles down the road from First Baptist, said during an on-air segment. “It’s only our faith in God that’s going to get us through this.”

 

The preacher went on to say that “prayer works” and delivered a mini sermon about how Christians believe that those who died at First Baptist and who knew Jesus are now in heaven. But the conversation took yet another interesting turn when the reporter asked how, outside of prayer, society can stop events like this from happening.

 

“I’m not sure we’re going to be able to stop those things, because the word of God tells us that we are gonna face trials and tribulations, that evil is out there, and it’s doing everything it can to attack,” Buford said. “We talk about it’s a gun issue, or we talk about a mental health issue. Well, as pastors and as Christians, we talk about it and say it’s not that; it’s a heart issue.”

 

He then went on to say that people are focusing on the world and not God, lamenting the state of affairs.

 

“If we were focused on the [God], then we wouldn’t be having those things,” he said. “We continue to push God out of our schools, out of our communities, out of our government.”

 

At that point, the reporter interjected to question whether Buford was blaming the shooting on those things and he clarified that he was not and was, instead, speaking to a broader issue that he believes is unfolding.

 

“We’re in a spiritual battle, we believe, in this world. It’s evil against good,” he said. “Now, we know that good is gonna overcome that.”

 

Watch Buford’s comments below:

MSNBC VIDEO:
http://content.jwplatform.com/players/0LyujOPD-OwlNfjNX.html

(H/T: IJR)

++++++++++++

Jennifer LeClaire Offers Prophetic Insight on Sutherland Springs Attack

 

By JENNIFER LECLAIRE

11/7/17 11:00AM EST 

CharismaNews – Watchman on the Wall

 

The church massacre that killed more than 24 people—including an 18-month-old child—still has investigators puzzled. News reports are trickling out about a connection to a domestic dispute but authorities have yet to say much about what specifically motivated the killer.

 

“This was not racially motivated; it wasn’t over religious beliefs,” Freeman Martin, a regional director with the Texas Department of Public Safety, said at a news briefing. “There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws.”

 

We must avoid knee-jerk reactions to politicize this tragedy and hit our knees in prayer for healing. While police look for a natural motive, we know the enemy’s motive all too well.

 

This massacre, like so many others, has the devil’s fingerprints all over it. Of course, it doesn’t take a prophet to see that, but I don’t mind reminding you amid the outrage and grief that 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelly, the attacker, was inspired by rulers of darkness.

 

You know I’m not a doom and gloomer, but this not the first attack on a church; it will not be the last. Amid the Sutherland Springs massacre, we must not give in to the spirit of fear, but understand our adversary, the devil, is influencing people to steal, kill and destroy.

 

We must wage prophetic warfare in the heavenlies because our battle is not against flesh and blood. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against the church. And Jesus is always right. He also told us, “Occupy till I come” (Luke 19:13b, KJV).

 

It’s time for the church to rise up with all manner of prayer with prophetic insight, including petitions and decrees, binding and loosing, even as we grieve for those who have been traumatized by this calamity.

 

Here’s how we can pray:

 

  • As the Lord to comfort those who are grieving and to deliver them from trauma that could impact them for many years to come.

 

  • Ask the Lord to fully expose every hidden motive, agenda or mandate behind this attack.

 

  • Give the pastor of this church the wisdom of Solomon to walk through this tragedy in the days ahead.

 

  • Bind the spirit of fear over this church, this city and others who are glued to the secular news media waiting for the next revelation about the killer.

 

  • Decree and declare a cease-and-desist order against massacres in our nation.

 

  • Pray that those who lost friends and family can truly forgive this atrocity.

 

  • Pray for awakening and a transforming revival in our cities.

 

Jennifer LeClaire is senior leader of Awakening House of Prayer in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, founder of the Ignite Network and founder of the Awakening Blaze prayer movement. She is author of over 25 books. Find her online at jenniferleclaire.org or email her at info@jenniferleclaire.org.

_______________

There is a Reason for Evil – Prayer Still Defeats Evil

John R. Houk

© November 8, 2017

___________________

Actual Demons Are Actually Real

 

The Resurgent

 

DONATE to The Resurgent

_____________

MSNBC Reporter Asks ‘Are Prayers Enough?’ in Wake of Church Massacre

FaithWire.com

 

About Faith Wire Newsletter Tab

 

Tired of feeling scared? Divided? Hopeless?

 

We are too, and we’re doing something about it. Introducing Faithwire.com.

 

The news of the day doesn’t have to leave you feeling hopeless and angry. No matter what tomorrow brings or what’s trending in your news feed, we refuse to let fear take over. The darker the news of the day may seem, the brighter the lights are within every story — you just have to know where to look. At Faithwire.com, we’ll help you find the light.

 

READ THE REST

__________________

Jennifer LeClaire Offers Prophetic Insight on Sutherland Springs Attack

 

© Copyright 2017 Charisma Media, All Rights Reserved.

 

About Charisma News

 

Informing believers with news from a Spirit-filled perspective

 

To passionate, Spirit-filled Christians, Charisma News is the most trusted source for credible news and insight from a charismatic perspective. Since 1975, Charisma magazine has reported on what the Holy Spirit is doing around the world. That award-winning news coverage quickly became the calling card for the magazine, as believers from across denominations turned to Charisma for the latest stories related to “life in the Spirit.”

 

In the 1990s and 2000s, Charisma continued to lead the way for Christian news outlets through such vehicles as a news wire service, television news specials and a robust website. Today Charisma News has developed into its own brand under the Charisma umbrella, offering breaking news coverage 24/7 in every digital format available. Just as Charisma magazine is the voice of the charismatic movement, Charisma News is the go-to source for believers who want the latest news delivered with trusted insight from a Spirit-filled perspective.

 

Where do You Stand: Keramer vs Johnston?


Intro by John R. Houk

© November 4, 2017

 

On 11/2 I vented a bit about the hypocrisy of the Mainstream Media (MSM) reporting like wimps on the Islamic terrorist attack by Sayfullo Saipov in Manhattan. Saipov killed eight and injured many others on Halloween for Allah, Muhammad and ISIS.

 

I shared the blog post on the G+ Community Boycott!🚫CNN, MSNBC & LIBERAL MEDIA (among other Communities and Groups). Two Community commenters had an interesting enough dialogue that I have decided to cross post most of it as a standalone post. The dialogue was between “ron keramer” and “Christina Johnston”.

 

The title of the post is “I Am Islamorgizo not Islamophobic”. The context of the post is being weary of the MSM insisting anyone that is critical of Islam is an Islamophobic racist. So, I found a Greek word that connotates a fixed anger akin to settled opposition. That Greek word is orgízō. Just as Multiculturalists and Islamic Apologists hooked “Islam” with the Greek derivative for “phobia” to form Islamophobe, I connected Islam with orgízō to create Islamorgizo – a settled angry opposition to Islam. Then I explained the reason why Islam deserves settled angry opposition not only for its revered writings justifying violence against non-Muslims, but also to show contrasting Quran and the Bible that Islam is specifically an Antichrist religion. Incidentally, Islam is the ONLY non-Christian religion that specifically denies the centrality of the Christian faith. You’ll have to read “I Am Islamorgizo not Islamophobic” for the details.

 

In keramer vs. Johnston: keramer lightly took a pro-Islam and an intense Antisemitic stand. Johnston took a critical stand against Islam and was pro-Christian in her criticism of Islam.

 

On a personal level was extremely disenchanted keramer’s Antisemitism. (There are other commenters, but I am focusing on keramer and Johnston.)

 

JRH 11/4/17

Please Support NCCR

*****************

Boycott! 🚫CNN, MSNBC & LIBERAL MEDIA Dialogue

Posted by JRH

11/2/17

 

Christina Johnston 11/2/17

+Jim Fridas
Islamic means submission. Islamic is satanic.

Muslim means to follow Islam. They are death and destruction.

+++

ron keramer 11/2/17

Search on YouTube: ‘Zionist Behind Islamophobia Propaganda Campaign’

 

[Blog Editor: As suspected a Youtube search produced Antisemitism and pro-Islam hooey.]

 

+++

ron keramer 11/3/17

+Dan Reidy
Search on YouTube: Five Misconception About Islam

 

[Blog Editor: Again, a search produced pro-Islam Taqiyyah propaganda.]

 

+++

Christina Johnston 11/3/17

+ron keramer
There are no misconceptions about Islam.

Because:

Islam means submission.
Islam is satanic.
Muslim means to follow Islam.
Allah is the Moon God, is Satan. Anybody saying any different is affiliated with Islam and is satanic.

Get thee behind me Satan.

Muslims / Islam justify and teach sin and abomination, unholy and ungodly acts, hatred, racism, incest pedophilia bestiality. Satan’s soldiers.

The hatred of Muslim terrorists for Christianity has manifested itself in inhumane acts against Christians such as beheadings, crucifixions, and destruction of churches.

And now, in the brutality of the Paris attacks.

 

+++

ron keramer 11/3/17

+Christina Johnston

Search on YouTube:
“Mossad’s Fingerprint On Paris Attack”, by Brother Nathanael

 

[Blog Editor: This Brother Nathanael joker spews much disproven accusations that Israel’s Mossad was responsible Islamic terrorist attacks in Paris which ISIS took credit. Then the nut job spins off on warping half-truths of Obama gun running to Syrian rebels that fell into the hands of Islamic terrorists undoubtedly that included ISIS. The joker even calls the dictator Bashar al Assad the leader of a legitimate Syrian government when in actuality he aided Iran in sponsoring Islamic terrorism. A load Jew-hatred lies spewed here!]

 

+++

ron keramer 11/3/17

+Christina Johnston
Search on YouTube: ‘The Protocol of Elder Of Zion Exposed’

 

[Blog Editor: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion LONG AGO has been exposed as a forgery with French roots but highly propagandized by Czarist Russia. The Protocols made entrance into the USA largely due to the Antisemitism of the famed car maker Henry Ford (The Second Chapter of this Master’s Thesis an excellent breakdown of Ford Antisemitism. No wonder Dearborn MI is chock full of Antisemite Muslims). There NEVER has been a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world. Observant Jews for a millennia only looked for a return to their homeland to be near the Holy Mount (in Jerusalem) where the Presence of God dwelt when there was a Temple. A desire realized in 1948 with sovereignty over the Temple Mount in 1967. The only Jewish objective since 1948 is for Israel to survive as the National Homeland for the Jews – PERIOD.]

 

+++

Christina Johnston 11/3/17

+ron keramer

I don’t have to research,
been there done that.
I’ve researched…
I’m also aware of false prophets, false teaching and lies.

I’m a retired private investigator, I put facts together…
I know Satan when I see him.
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

John 8:44 ESV / 77 helpful votes

You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

 

+++

Christina Johnston

+Dan Reidy [Johnston responds to a Reidy Antisemitic comment that included profanity]
Satan is the father of lies and deception.
Evil people die, Satan and his demons never die, they possess evil and wicked people throughout time.

We have the same people with different faces.
It’s the same routine over and over.

Wolves in sheep clothing.

 

+++

[I am ending with a comment from Maria Mary Miriam who posted an expose Islam video. I recommend you not search any of those Antisemitic and pro-Islam videos suggested by ron keramer.]

 

María Mary Miriam 11/3/17

youtube.com – Proof Islam is False: Muhammad was not a true Prophet!

 

VIDEO: Proof Islam is False: Muhammad was not a true Prophet!

 

Posted by Jesus Or Muhammad

Published on Feb 22, 2013

 

video by http://www.youtube.com/user/LegOfAllah2

 

Proof Islam is False: Muhammad was not a true Prophet!

 

Een Christen weerlegd alle zogenaamde wonderen van Allah en de koran doormiddel van 1 vers van de koran. Kijk zelf maar!

 

[Google Translate: A Christian refuted all so-called wonders of Allah and the Qur’an through 1 verse of the Qur’an. See for yourself!]